Pence finally breaks with Trump: VP refuses
to join Texas Republican Louie Gohmert's
bid to stop Congress certifying Biden victory
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Nikki Schwab
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
12/30/2020 11:53:13 PM
Vice President Mike Pence refused to sign on to a plan that would upend Congress certifying the election on January 6 for President-elect Joe Biden. Earlier this week, Rep. Louie Gohmert and Arizona's slate of Republican Electoral College 'electors' filed a federal lawsuit to get a judge to say Pence has the power to pick pro-Trump electors when he presides over the Congressional session where he will finalize the presidential election results. Politico reported late Tuesday night that a legal filing in the case indicated that Gohmert and the electors' lawyers had reached out to Pence in advance, trying to work out a deal - and it was shot down.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Californian 12/30/2020 11:58:40 PM (No. 645463)
Daily Fail (UK); as usual headline and article text do not match.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
snakeoil 12/31/2020 12:13:00 AM (No. 645465)
If true Pence's future is parking cars.
82 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
hotcorner 12/31/2020 12:23:14 AM (No. 645466)
Did you really expect Pence, a political lifer and former Congressman, to have the courage do this?
51 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
proactus 12/31/2020 12:26:42 AM (No. 645469)
Hey Pence. The American People say,Pay Attention! To us, not the Deep State!
74 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 12/31/2020 12:30:08 AM (No. 645471)
How unexpectedly unexpected. I had no idea. Always thought he was loyal to Trump. Another back stabbing deep state treasonous China lover looking for a book deal and speaker circuit gigs.
38 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
danu 12/31/2020 12:33:29 AM (No. 645473)
Well Mr VP. I knew you were bent-just. knew . it ! deep state dirt bag.
Get out of town now! I'd rather have my dog do the count than to trust you.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
watashiyo 12/31/2020 12:35:42 AM (No. 645475)
Another Fake News?!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
john56 12/31/2020 12:44:20 AM (No. 645477)
The Trump campaign has been playing it pretty close to the vest. If they have a plan, I seriously doubt they're going to broadcast it ahead of time. But I still wish Trump would fire Wray at FBI and Haspel at CIA and order the immediate release without redactions of all documents concerning the Russian Collusion Hoax, the Impeachment Hoax, and the Clinton and Biden crime families. Screw the "methods and sources" stuff, the "methods and sources" are the heart of the crime.
101 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
pmcclure 12/31/2020 12:50:08 AM (No. 645479)
So the Supreme Court becomes the Submissive Court and the Vice President stands politely aside for vice.
27 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
SALady 12/31/2020 1:23:15 AM (No. 645483)
Once again, the "Daily Mail" -- a rag sheet about 15 levels below the "National Enquirer" -- claims to have some huge news (always anti-Trump). It never pans out.
Vice President Pence will do what he is legally mandated to under the laws of this republic. That has never been in question. You don't get any more honorable than VP Pence!!!!!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Harlowe 12/31/2020 1:29:58 AM (No. 645485)
It would be prudent not to judge Vice President Pence before the proceedings scheduled for January 6th actually occur. According to a credible source, the rules were made by the previous congress, the laws are in place binding the procedures, and that Vice President Pence “has no authority on his own to accept or reject any state. According to the source, he will turn to the Parliamentarian for a ruling on how to proceed.” The last time this was done there was an objection to an elector slate by Sheila Jackson Lee against Trump electors in 2016.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Harlowe 12/31/2020 1:41:13 AM (No. 645488)
For whatever it’s worth, the UK Daily Mail quite likely publishes what the entirety of the British mainstream media believes about President Trump and it is as hateful and irrational as what the mainstream media in the States believes about President Trump evidenced by the BBC nightly news programs televised in the States.
47 people like this.
That would be a disappointment.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Crusty_Rusty 12/31/2020 4:42:40 AM (No. 645506)
As poster #1 indicates, the Headline doesn't match the Article. As a matter of fact, the article really doesn't say much of anything that hasn't been all over the LameStream Media recently.
Electors from 5 to 7 states will be challenged on Jan 6 and Evidence will be presented For/Against each Slate of Electors. The evidence of Fraud and Violations of State Laws will be Overwhelming and VP Pence will disqualify ALL Electors from each of those states with neither Trump nor Biden reaching 270.
The House will then Elect Trump with One Vote from each GOP State and One Vote for Biden from each DemoCrap State and the Senate will do the same for Pence and then ANTIFA/BLM will begin the Riots/Looting/Arson/Rapes/Murders in earnest. We all know the drill.
Stock up on Food/Water/Sterno/Brass/Lead and stay at Home/Indoors because the Stuffing is going to Hit the Fan BIGLEY...........
55 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
shredmaster 12/31/2020 4:47:42 AM (No. 645507)
Just because Mike Pence won't sign on to the suit, doesn't mean that there isn't some type of action he could take. I know Mike Pence from his days in Indiana as a local broadcaster before he won his first congressional race. He will play it by the book, and if there were a legal way to do what it would take to make Trump the winner legally, he would do it.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Edgelady 12/31/2020 5:21:40 AM (No. 645516)
It’s the Daily Mail, for heaven’s sakes - not to be trusted.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
NotaBene 12/31/2020 5:43:40 AM (No. 645522)
Mike Pence has been a loyal soldier. For my part I would like to distinguish Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and ACB with the White Feather award of cowardice.
47 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
nina584 12/31/2020 5:49:20 AM (No. 645526)
My British friends laugh that we Americans read their ragsheet newspaper as if it was a real newspaper. The daily mail is a secondary newspaper and is seen as a gossip sheet.The Times is their real newspaper.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
vrb8m 12/31/2020 5:54:23 AM (No. 645528)
Part of the plan. All will be revealed.
17 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
4goodnessake 12/31/2020 6:29:59 AM (No. 645544)
Beware psy-ops.
16 people like this.
Reply 21 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 12/31/2020 6:50:33 AM (No. 645551)
Lemme see-- Potlicko and Gaily Male
No, I'll wait for a real news source ....
18 people like this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 12/31/2020 6:51:54 AM (No. 645553)
Who or what to believe nowadays.....that is the question.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
tootall 12/31/2020 7:09:19 AM (No. 645563)
If VP Pence does the right thing by the Constitution and considering the facts he will be a shoe in to be the next President after DJT's second term. If he does not, and the real story gradually leaks out over the next four years, he will have a troubled rest of his life. It's that simple.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
govlawyer 12/31/2020 7:12:07 AM (No. 645564)
Old news...and of questionable accuracy, especially now that Pence's trip to Mideast has been cancelled.
10 people like this.
Reply 25 - Posted by:
TXknitter 12/31/2020 7:23:54 AM (No. 645567)
The DM needs to stick to gossip about the aging Kardashian clan, insulting America’s fine President and helping Buckingham Palace’s PR office prop up the Royal family. Unfortunately, many Brits read this trash and not just Americans. I am praying Mike Pence will be more than up to the task on January 6th!
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 12/31/2020 7:38:06 AM (No. 645584)
Agree with #10. Daily Mail p(UK)e makes National Enquirer look respectable enough to be Nobel prize worthy. Wait a sec, I need to think that through. Actually, I need a little more time to assess Pence. Trump was elected, Pence was chosen. There's a difference.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
udanja99 12/31/2020 8:07:45 AM (No. 645609)
I’d like to give Pence the benefit of the doubt but I haven’t really trusted him since he caved to the LGBT crowd while governor of Indiana.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 12/31/2020 8:32:55 AM (No. 645630)
The DM is obviously trying to create the illusion that Pence said publicly that he told Gohmert to take a hike.
He did not. There are no quotes from Pence in DM's lefty piece. My take from DM's piece is, that if it is true Pence refused to embrace Gohmert's plan (which I must admit seems rather odd) for tallying elector votes individually from each state, this could mean that Pence may find a different way to block certifying the election for biden the cheater. On the other hand, Pence has witnessed first hand over five years the destruction of a president by a very evil deep state, msm, and Soros-owned global network. That might be enough incentive for Pence to punt like everybody else, go along to get along, install biden the cheater, and usher in the new Amerika, the Great Reset, and the new world order. By then, we may come to know the real Mike Pence.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
bighambone 12/31/2020 8:51:02 AM (No. 645650)
You can’t believe anything that the UK Daily Mail says about President Trump. Ever since Trump was elected the Daily Mail has been 100% fake news when it comes to Trump. If Biden is deemed to be elected by way of a fraudulent election there will be nothing for the Daily Mail to make up once Biden is in the White House, as if they ever start any kind of adversarial news operation against Biden the leftist and liberal Democrats would kick them out of the USA.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
MDConservative 12/31/2020 9:09:09 AM (No. 645673)
If accurate, this is rich: ..."(Plaintiffs) want Texas-based U.S. District Judge Jeremy Kernodle to grant the vice president expanded powers to choose pro-Trump electors."
Kernpdle is a Trump appointee, so he must be an "originalist", and now Grandstand Looie, et al, are looking for an "activist" to expand powers supposedly vested in the Constitution.
Pence has no interest. He has eyes on '24, or a nice life as an ex-VP who played along at the end. And no young judge is in a hurry to destroy a career by "standing alone athwart history yelling 'STOP!'." The solution is in Looie's House, and Mitch's Senate...always has been.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
starboard 12/31/2020 9:10:20 AM (No. 645675)
Pure Bunk.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
oldmagnolia 12/31/2020 9:33:12 AM (No. 645704)
At this point I don't trust anybody, including Pence. That said, this is the Daily Mail people.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
anniebc 12/31/2020 9:40:46 AM (No. 645717)
Finally, huh?
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/31/2020 9:44:59 AM (No. 645725)
It's Daily Mail(UK) the click-bait artists of the fake journalism world. No thanks, although they did get great pictures of Smidgen and Big Mike on the kayak in Hawaii.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
red1066 12/31/2020 9:45:12 AM (No. 645726)
What's with this FINALLY crap?
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
bogeegolf 12/31/2020 9:47:52 AM (No. 645730)
Isn’t it funny how we have to stop total fraud by legal means.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
49 Ford 12/31/2020 9:49:00 AM (No. 645733)
Let's not jump to conclusions - in a week we will know for sure.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
cold porridge 12/31/2020 9:53:42 AM (No. 645737)
Doesn't anyone remember the email before the 2016 election indicating Paul Ryan and Mike Pence conspiring to yank the candidacy away from Donald Trump at the last minute before the election? I have never trusted Mike Pence since then. Never.
1 person likes this.
Reply 39 - Posted by:
Saryden 12/31/2020 10:14:23 AM (No. 645749)
Appears to me that many "progressives" have entered the Repliers list to work against conservatives and the longevity of The American Dream. Propaganda is rife!
7 people like this.
Reply 40 - Posted by:
Zigrid 12/31/2020 10:29:48 AM (No. 645769)
It is... what it is...IF this is true...never trust any news article when it smells of questionable information... the fake news is scrambling for stories because President Trump isn't holding news conferences and they don't know what his next move is...
5 people like this.
Reply 41 - Posted by:
bpl40 12/31/2020 10:43:38 AM (No. 645777)
Look at it from Pence's perspective. If he had agreed with Goehmert he could not have been able to chair the joint session on Jan 6 in good faith. We will know only on Jan 6 what the game plan is. It still seems unlikely to me that Pence will simply ignore the massive evidence of fraud that is growing by day.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 12/31/2020 10:59:40 AM (No. 645789)
Hard to trust anything the media says these days. it doesn't sound like the judge has ruled on Gohmert's lawsuit yet, but the article says the judge does not intend to have a hearing. Can't help but think that this lawsuit is just a shortcut for declaring Trump the winner. They need to show real vote counts that indicate Trump really won. They need to count ballots. They need to make sure all votes were counted. They need to make sure no fraudulent votes were counted. They need to get rid of the Dominion voting machines.
Trump's enemies are continuing their coup against him. This is just another installment in their effort to oust Trump. This time they are hiding behind an election. They have been hiding behind the rule of law all along. Would like to see this resolved in a court of law, but not sure that is possible anymore.
4 people like this.
Reply 43 - Posted by:
lisa belanger 12/31/2020 11:22:54 AM (No. 645809)
he is part of the swamp
his wife runs the show he has no huevos
that is why trump picked him....he will not park cars
but he is a weak men will write a book and go to church
trump was betrayed by everyone......peridod
2 people like this.
Reply 44 - Posted by:
earlybird 12/31/2020 11:30:11 AM (No. 645818)
Read the article. Remember that Mike Pence is the President of the Senate as well as Vice President. Politico says there was a “reach out” for him to join the senators challenging the election. He could not ethically do that. The alternative was for them to file their lawsuit, which they did.
Virtually every lawsuit is preceded by an attempt on the part of plaintiff’s lawyers to resolve the issue. The lawyers reached out. It couldn’t be done. The lawsuit was filed.
The DM is not our friend. It is not Trump’s friend nor VP Pence’s. This little gem was from Politico. Virtually everything DM publishes has been swiped from a lefty US source.
Do we have to continue to be so gulliblel that we believe this stuff? Reading this thread, it sure looks like it. Or there be trolls among us.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
earlybird 12/31/2020 11:36:17 AM (No. 645822)
If I were a Dem, about now I’d be high fiving Politico and the DM for having achieved their goal: “You’re being posted on a Conservative site. You’re dividing up the Trump supporters. Creating big doubts. Well done! They’re biting!!!!! All according to plan!!!!!"
3 people like this.
Reply 46 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 12/31/2020 12:38:45 PM (No. 645867)
I am so sick of the DM and their trashy headlines they use to try and get Trump. Between this rag and Lin Woods pot stirring, I am about at the end of my patience with that bunch. I admire Pence if he is trying to stay above the fray, and to stick to the constitution. He is going to be walking into an epic political firestorm next week, and he needs ALL our support, not our vitriol for things that we have zero evidence has actually happened yet.
4 people like this.
Reply 47 - Posted by:
deerejon 12/31/2020 12:48:15 PM (No. 645872)
Pure Daily mail garbage,Don't believe anything they print.
2 people like this.
Reply 48 - Posted by:
Mike6 12/31/2020 2:24:36 PM (No. 645933)
Joe Biden is a filthy, disgusting communist.
Kamala slept her way to the top with an old, blind man in San Francisco.
He said that he would not vote for her for dog catcher.
His poor wife should have divorced him.
Trump won the 2020 election.
He should never concede.
Trump should fight for America until the cows come home.
5 people like this.
Reply 49 - Posted by:
The Remnants 12/31/2020 5:07:22 PM (No. 646004)
#48 I know that Kamala has admitted in social media that she is sympathetic to the communist cause.
1 person likes this.
Reply 50 - Posted by:
scottj 12/31/2020 8:32:42 PM (No. 646086)
I have never trusted Pence. He's doesn't like to be criticized. He will do whatever it takes to appease the liberal media.
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