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New Study Shows Mask Mandates Had Zero
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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 12/22/2020 1:19:19 AM

Obviously, no amount of evidence, data, trends, facts, studies, or science will ever convince most ‘public health officials’ that masks aren’t doing squat to stop the spread of COVID-19. Cases and deaths continue to spike (yes, many of these are super-sensitive PCR test-driven numbers, but still) despite the fact that well over 90% of the country are complying with their absurd mandates. Yet, predictably, the virus keeps going right on virusing, as highly contagious respiratory viruses, unfortunately, tend to do, especially once cold weather hits. Nevertheless, those of us who are mask skeptics have a difficult chore in front of us.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Catherine 12/22/2020 2:30:14 AM (No. 638406)
It's more of a status symbol now. Even Bob Mackie, the famed designer, has a line of masks.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Saryden 12/22/2020 5:27:37 AM (No. 638461)
I think masks may do more harm than good... thieves love them, those with respiratory problems hate them. Death rates appear no higher than any other year. But just try going without and the general popu-lemmings will glare, insult,and ostracize you. Mask sellers are glad of this. Silly people (think Pelosi) are using them to gain attention... will masks ever go away again and let us Breathe Free??
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Reply 3 - Posted by: BirdsNest 12/22/2020 6:22:04 AM (No. 638478)
Soon after we were required to wear masks, I saw themq for sale in WalMart. Commercially produced. I figured then we were in for a long ride with these.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Suzi 12/22/2020 6:22:59 AM (No. 638479)
Snot-soaked vectors of disease. Infection-control nightmare.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: F15 Gork 12/22/2020 6:40:45 AM (No. 638492)
Doesn’t matter whether it works or not - it’s a sign of fealty to our masters.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rinktum 12/22/2020 6:41:33 AM (No. 638493)
Masks are political tools used by the democrats to control us. We were told how small this virus was when it first appeared. Now you do not hear any talk of that because it is clear that it can travel right through a mask. Government was serious they would now allow us to touch anything even with gloves we can spread the virus. Clearly, there is little we can do other than social distancing and holing up in our homes to really protect us. Mask are a symbol of submission and intimidation and fear. And that is exactly where they want us. Fearful to the point that we will do anything they say. We are being manipulated by our government, unelected bureaucrats and our fellow citizens who feel justified to loudly confront us. Are we safer because of their use? I despise them because they prevent fresh air coming through them. They are a real hindrance for many of us with breathing issues. They have to be filled with germs also. How can that be healthy. Because of them I go out very little but have been venturing out more during the Christmas Season but it is miserable. You just cannot connect with people when we cannot see each others faces. Speech is muffled. And I cannot bear to see my fellow Americans submitting to this insanity. It seems to me the more we mask up, the more cases we have. Don’t even get me started on the testing...oy.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: 3XALADY 12/22/2020 6:53:18 AM (No. 638497)
Amen #6 on testing. I know NO ONE who has been tested who doesn't have the crud, even if they have no symptoms. On my way thru town, there is a message board with messages telling me to social distance, cover my mouth when I cough, wear a mask. Small signs in yards say the same thing. You can't get away from it. I was in Florida in October and November. In all that time, I was in ONE store where masks weren't required. I had read the state had 'opened' but it didn't seem that way. Restaurants were open but you had to wear a mask to get in and be seated.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: geminale 12/22/2020 7:08:20 AM (No. 638506)
Yes, Florida is technically open, but counties still have mask mandates and occupancy limits in stores. Gov. Desantis needs to get rid of all the mandates and promote what actually does work - washing hands and distancing.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: udanja99 12/22/2020 7:48:38 AM (No. 638545)
As I’ve been posting here for months... If masks and lockdowns worked the virus would have died out in May.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Periwinkel 12/22/2020 7:50:56 AM (No. 638547)
Lord Fauci is still promoting masks. However I love it that Duchess Birx got caught with three generations of her family at the Beach House over Thanksgiving.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 12/22/2020 7:52:23 AM (No. 638548)
"Science" is one of their weapons. Stop thinking of scientists as truthful. They are bought off with their government grants, to say what they are instructed to say. Those scientist who speak truth are muzzled by the media. This is "1984".
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Reply 12 - Posted by: lakerman1 12/22/2020 8:00:19 AM (No. 638558)
my concern with the masks has to do with wearing the same mask for an extended period of time - all day, for example, on one's shift at a store. The mask will be slightly moist and slightly warm, the perfect host for a random bacterium, allowing the bacterium to survive and thrive. And it can infect the mask wearer. We could see a pandemic of Legionnaire's disease, which exists in exactly that kind of environment.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 12/22/2020 8:19:33 AM (No. 638577)
At first I thought there is no way the mask manufacturers have the kind of lobby to influence this, but if they are subsidiaries of mega-corporations that DO have a strong lobby, then here we are. I live in a red area with no mandate, and you STILL see 98% compliance. But there are ways to "wear" them without "wearing" them that keep most people off your back.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: gop_guys 12/22/2020 8:29:50 AM (No. 638592)
Of course it’s about control, not health. Here in Texas Governor Abbot re-enacted the mask mandate when we had a “case” spike. A lot of conservatives have been very disappointed in that single edict. His FB page gets barraged with criticism over masks. Now the data is out. Masks do more harm than good. Breathing ones own toxins is harmful. Just smell the inside of the mask after a days wear. Smells like bat poop. At 69 years of age, I get a little nauseated from wearing a rag over my nose and mouth. Factually, covid is 50-200 nanometers in size. A sheet of paper has a thickness of 100,000 nanometers. Kind of like keeping out mosquitoes with barbed wire. Now they tell us get the vaccine and continue the masks? Makes you want to move to South Dakota.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Catfur27 12/22/2020 8:30:16 AM (No. 638594)
Mask-wearers do not want to hear that they have been played... As Mark Twain once said : "It is MUCH easier to fool someone...than to convince them they have been fooled. "
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Reply 16 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 12/22/2020 8:32:34 AM (No. 638597)
The Covid restrictions were never about protecting the public. It was all about control. If the public tries to correct this by voting the scoundrels out of office, those same scoundrels will rig the elections to stay in power.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: sunshinehorses 12/22/2020 8:32:53 AM (No. 638598)
I have NEVER worn a mask and never will. I get panic attacks if my face is covered. Don't know why - just do. My background is math and science or if you will, logic. It never made sense to me that a piece of cloth will let smells that have molecules about the size of covid through, but would stop covid? Yes there are very good masks that are made for this, but not the cloth variety that everyone wears.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: felixcat 12/22/2020 8:51:54 AM (No. 638623)
Masks are a joke. There are no standards on the type of mask to wear. No standards on the material, thickness/thinness, length of time to wear a mask before it becomes contaminated, etc. Every flu season for the past several decades - no requirements to wear a mask. Nothing. H1N1 under Obama - again - no talks, nothing. 99.7% of the people who contact this virus have little to no symptoms and ill effects. This is not the Black Death.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: jimboscott 12/22/2020 9:12:26 AM (No. 638652)
While I do not personally BELIEVE that masks do any good, the article sort of misses the mark in how it parses the data. Raw number of cases per day before and after masks mandates (or a parallel comparison in RAW case numbers between counties/states) is not the best way to analyze this. What we REALLY need to know if masks work is a plot of the RATE of growth before and after in a county or state that implemented mask mandates. Raw case numbers might reveal something, but it could be a cart and horse thing too as those counties with the most cases WILL BE the ones that are more prone to making people wear masks. I think Morefield's analysis is frankly inconclusive. I suspect he is right based upon the Danish study of 6000 people that showed a .3% improvement in the masked arm, meaning masks helped about 1 our of every 300 who were made to wear them in terms of COVID-19. I suspect these people got more infections overall however as masks are pretty nasty after a very short while.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 12/22/2020 9:28:00 AM (No. 638665)
Stand by for the revolution... Can anyone point out an election at any level where the "no mask" side won on a "no mask" campaign? Anywhere? The Sheeple always win!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 12/22/2020 9:38:42 AM (No. 638680)
Scott, I got news for you, bro. The purpose of the mask mandates was to start conditioning Americans to obey the state en mass. Group think at its best. It is needed in order to implement the new world order.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: milwaukeeroad 12/22/2020 9:40:21 AM (No. 638682)
In Florida you need a mask for entrance into various venues, like Walmart, most public offices, and certainly any hospital or medical facility. In those locations, and in those mandated locations only, I will don a Trump 2020 mask without covering my nose. No one bugs me about it except for the frequent agreeable nod acknowledging “Go Trump!”
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Reply 23 - Posted by: msjena 12/22/2020 10:06:10 AM (No. 638727)
Mask mandates and lockdowns are now a religion. I was screamed at by a good friend for saying lockdowns don't work.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: hurricanegirl 12/22/2020 10:07:29 AM (No. 638728)
Wow! So you all complain about it, but then you just go ahead and comply? Such nice little sheeple you all are! SPIT!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: mc squared 12/22/2020 10:13:56 AM (No. 638738)
Many stores here in FL have signs requesting masks be worn, but only the employees are wearing them. To my knowledge, no one has been asked to leave if one isn't worn. Want to start a conversation? Just mention to someone in line that the masks are useless symbols. My experience shows they all agree.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: royzzer 12/22/2020 10:33:17 AM (No. 638758)
I just pull my T-shirt up over my nose and shop with one hand, sort of an eff u to the system. Of course some vendors tell me I don't have to wear a mask after viewing my naked manly belly hanging out :)
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Reply 27 - Posted by: stablemoney 12/22/2020 10:34:20 AM (No. 638760)
Wearing a nasty hankerchief around your nose accomplishes nothing but cutting off your breathing, exposing yourself to breathing back in the germs your immune system has expelled to protect you. And please stop trying to talk through those masks. No one can hear or understand the mumbles. The mask hides all facial expression, and no one has any idea what you are saying or referring to. Also, no one has elected you to tell other people where to stand, which direction to go, whether they can come or go, leave their homes, go to work, attend school, visit the aged, or their families. No one has elected you to replace their doctors with your medical advice. No one has elected you to make policies, while you spend years studying the data to find out what should be done.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Zigrid 12/22/2020 10:43:07 AM (No. 638769)
Here in Illinois... home of the "rules for THEE.. and not for me" governor... who flies down to Florida to openly visit his family... enjoying the freedom that he mandated WE Illinoisans cannot enjoy... he's a joke and probably won election with fake ballots found in the middle of the night...same with Chicago's mayor... slow foot...she follows the dictates of the lefties and enjoys her freedom at Chicago's expense...
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Reply 29 - Posted by: jacksin5 12/22/2020 10:48:25 AM (No. 638775)
This is the result of giving little people power. I reside in a small housing community in Fl. Our BOD has taken this to the extreme ordering us to wear masks whenever we leave our homes. Their meeting to lay down these diktats are not open to the residents, so they can safely pass down their edicts without having to endure protests. I grew up getting in trouble for doing anything I'm asked, but little I'm told. This has not changed, much to the dismay of the BOD. I own my house, and the land it sits on. I'm pretty much banned from the amenities, such as the pool and the Pub, but when I go outside the gates, life is pretty much normal. I will ride this out, and take down my Christmas lights, and Trump signs on Jan 6th.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NotaBene 12/22/2020 12:57:09 PM (No. 638946)
At least the Marxist American Medical Association has lifted its prohibition of Hydroxychloroquine.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: little guy 12/22/2020 2:37:45 PM (No. 639054)
It's been about 9 months now ... so everyone who refused to wear a mask should be dead by now, no? Why not? Because wearing a mask now is a political statement about "caring" --- and not a real statement about anyone's health. Simple test: Put on the mask you think might be effective. Now make a pot of coffee and stand back. If you can smell the coffee --- your mask isn't working! The molecules of coffee you can smell are between 10 and 20 times BIGGER than the virus. When I was in Costco I walked down the aisle with laundry detergent and could easily smell it. Hardly keeping out the virus thingy! Plus --- they claim you can get this virus through your eyes --- which are totally unprotected by a nose/mouth mask.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: red1066 12/22/2020 5:14:56 PM (No. 639226)
Another waste of money. There was absolutely no reason to have a study on this matter. Ask any doctor who's being honest, and they'll tell you only certain types of masks are any good, and even those only for a short people of time. Every other kind of mask is utterly useless. It's a feel good measure that does absolutely no one any good.
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'100 percent proof' in a wild interview
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Posted by OhioNick 2/4/2021 2:21:06 PM Post Reply
A Newsmax anchor who stormed off during an interview with Mike Lindell made a grovelling apology to the MyPillow boss last night. Bob Sellers expressed profuse regret at how Tuesday night's interview with Lindell had descended into a shouting match over voter fraud. The anchor had desperately asked his producers to cut Lindell off as the CEO barked about having '100 percent proof' of manipulation by the Dominion Voting machines. Exasperated and red-faced Sellers got out of his chair and walked off set, leaving his co-host Heather Childers to carry on without him.
Bank of America handed over customer
data to feds following Capitol riot
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Posted by Dreadnought 2/4/2021 11:13:27 PM Post Reply
There has been an enormous amount of talk -- not just this week, but over the last month -- about violent extremism and the people who embrace it. Those people, we're told, are domestic terrorists who must be put down by force. The war on terror has moved stateside. Extremists are inside our country, and we must hunt them down. We're hearing those words nonstop, not just on cable news, but from elected officials, including some Republicans. We're hearing it from the leaders of federal law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies. We're hearing it from the Pentagon. Just this week
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