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Fox News Feels the Heat as
Morning Joe Beats Fox and Friends
for the First Time in 20 Years

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Posted By: Mauigirl, 11/17/2020 4:30:26 PM

I’m sure Fox News’ new public relations firm will say this is no big deal and point us to Tucker Carlson’s ratings, but this seems like a pretty big deal to me. For the first time since 2001, MSNBC’s Morning Joe has beaten Fox and Friends in the ratings game. This is also not a single cherry-picked day, but an average of the entire week. Some people reading this right now weren’t born the last time this happened.

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Circling the drain.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 11/17/2020 4:34:00 PM (No. 608760)
Good news. Screw them, after they screwed us. I hope Lachlan Murdoch's wife is pleased....she has destroyed his company, of course he was doing her bidding.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Catherine 11/17/2020 4:35:45 PM (No. 608762)
Well at least there's some good news here today. I hope they go broke. The kids thought they could do better than daddy. Nope.
68 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: john56 11/17/2020 4:38:32 PM (No. 608763)
Doesn't the morning cartoons beat Morning Joe?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: jimincalif 11/17/2020 4:39:16 PM (No. 608764)
Well deserved of course. I haven't watched FNC in years, but in the wake of the election and subsequent steal, it is almost too painful to check any news sites. Even my Lucianne visits are way down. I suspect some of this is causing both Fox drop.
30 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan 11/17/2020 4:39:19 PM (No. 608765)
The mgmt. at FOXNews should be shot (figuratively). Who do they think watched them? Do they seriously believe any viewers will come from CNN or MSDNC after those audiences have come to believe FOX is evil over the past 25 years? Glad we sold our newscorp stock a few years ago. Get woke, go broke. Such a shame, but calling Arizona for Biden was the last straw. And they feel no shame. Shoulda danced with the one that brought ya, FOX!
61 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 11/17/2020 4:40:24 PM (No. 608768)
Bret, Martha, Dana and others are the bad guys here. Why take it out on F & Fs?
32 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: AmericaYes 11/17/2020 4:45:17 PM (No. 608776)
#6. Because watching F&F, Tucker, Hannity, or any other FOX show generates revenue for the Murdock family. And it pays the salaries of Bret, Martha, Dana, Cavuto and the rest of the turncoats.
74 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: watashiyo 11/17/2020 4:49:35 PM (No. 608781)
Action has Consequences. Wrath of 73 million Trump voters.
64 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: Skinnydip 11/17/2020 4:54:00 PM (No. 608784)
Anybody else catch Tucker last night? He said rumors of his show going away were wrong and that Fox instead was going to expand his presence to additional time periods. Sounded like Fox was getting desperate.
54 people like this.

Reply 10 - Posted by: judy 11/17/2020 4:54:56 PM (No. 608786)
Joe ...NO! Newsmax ..YES!!!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Daisymay 11/17/2020 4:55:03 PM (No. 608787)
Fox and Friends shined a light on how they really feel when they jumped all over anyone who dared to say Chris Wallace did a horrible job with the Debate. They said they LOVED Chris, "He's one of us" were the words they used. I always started my day with their show, but that was the last straw for me! We watch one show (Hubby likes it) and that's The Five. More and More I have to leave the Room when Juan starts his talking points of the day. He yells to get his point out! Some days, Dana gets on my last nerve with her Cutesy Little Me act. I love it when they have Dagen on, she tells it like it is! We love Jessie. Other than that, I would pass on that show. The rest of the Day there is a NO FOX Rule in our house! As for Leland, He should to get a Hair Cut. I guess he thinks he's The Fonz, but he is really just a Jerk!
52 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 11/17/2020 5:01:44 PM (No. 608790)
We've e-mailed Fox News twice. First time about the horrible way Chris Wallace treated President Trump in the first debate and the second time in the way they anointed Biden as Pres-elect. We told them they were dead to us and lost our support. We don't think they care. We're praying loss in their income/revenue will reach them or maybe not. Time will tell.
44 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 11/17/2020 5:03:23 PM (No. 608794)
I gave up F&F in 2016 when they had Heb! on almost daily until Trump knocked him out of the race. I switched to Varney on FBN in the mornings, but I haven't watched him much lately either. I've found I can live with Fox, just like I gave up Drudge.
28 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 11/17/2020 5:05:21 PM (No. 608798)
Did Joe & Mika gain viewers, or did FOX hemorrhage their base since the election night fiasco. I wonder what FOX's investors will have to say at the next board meeting?
30 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: Avikingman 11/17/2020 5:18:47 PM (No. 608802)
Lachlan, getting any?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: jalo1951 11/17/2020 5:26:21 PM (No. 608805)
Trust me the viewers who have left FOX are not turning on Joe and his crazy wife. He is simply pulling more people now that we have cut the cord. I'd rather have red hot pokers shoved up my butt and be forced to listen to "Baby Shark" on a loop than watch Joe and unfortunately now I put FOX in that group too. They blew it big time. There are some shows I will continue to watch (Tucker, Maria, Judge, Jessie, Greg etc) but I will never watch their so called regular news casts ever again.
36 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: chumley 11/17/2020 5:28:34 PM (No. 608807)
Watched Newsmax and America's voice this morning. Wont watch the traitorous Fox anymore. I do hope Newsmax and America's voice get rid of the lousy televised radio show format. And tell Bannon to get a haircut and a suit. He looks like a bum. Hopefully they will grow into being real news stations.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 11/17/2020 5:51:48 PM (No. 608825)
Respectfully, Posters 7 and 11. We cannot expect F and Fs to smack Chris Wallace around, and even if Fox viewers didn’t switch to MSNBC, Joe and Mika don’t deserve a contract negotiation talking point. Every Fox host occasionally irritates me. But there is no where else to go, at least now, in A.M., and in prime time. As for Bret, Martha, Dana, Sandra, Cavuto, and the hideous weekend crew, they can go jump.
18 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: happywarrior 11/17/2020 6:10:21 PM (No. 608843)
I won't tune in for one second, even if Tucker is on every show. Plus I was weary of hearing Tucker say he likes Joe Biden and then giving that blanket statement that we are all annoyed by President's Trump's tweets. To be clear, I like PDT's tweets, they don't bother me at all and never did!
35 people like this.

Reply 20 - Posted by: edgar 11/17/2020 6:12:01 PM (No. 608845)
File this one under 'Elections Have Consequences'. They hitched their wagon to Sleepy Joe and its gonna hurt. Bigley.
33 people like this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: Newtsche 11/17/2020 6:13:41 PM (No. 608846)
Wow, just wow! All else notwithstanding, Scarborough's show is non-stop ugliness, hate and, of course, lies. I can only hope the viewing public will tire of the negativity and all the criminal old media bastards will lose their audiences.
15 people like this.

Reply 22 - Posted by: Peach1 11/17/2020 6:22:24 PM (No. 608850)
We cut the cord to Fox this past election; it was the straw that broke the camels back! I think Fox is now learning not to mess with their once very loyal viewers. So, if they really learn this lesson and change their liberal ways, we would consider watching again, but not until we see considerable change. Until then, Fox will not be on in this house. No way! We switched to Newsmax, but with their higher ratings, I sure hope they don’t go the same way as Fox. If they do, we’ll walk away from them as well. I’m really loving The War Room with Steve Brannon.
15 people like this.

Reply 23 - Posted by: FunOne 11/17/2020 6:43:04 PM (No. 608872)
Interesting that Fox thinks that giving Tucker more air time will bring back their lost audience. News to Fox--Tucker doesn't have enough hands to plug all of the holes you have shot through your dike. They strongly supported Chris Wallace when he did the hack job on President Trump, and hired that black woman who was the chair of the DNC and gave Hullary the debate questions. She annoys me with her Afro dialect because she does not pronounce the "G" on any word endin' in "ing". Most irritatin'. Fox is circlin' the drain all right.
36 people like this.

Reply 24 - Posted by: udanja99 11/17/2020 6:43:19 PM (No. 608873)
I don’t watch television at all but I do listen to talk radio and our local station gets their news feed from Fox. After several days of them referring to “President Elect Biden”, I now turn the radio off whenever the news comes on.
24 people like this.

Reply 25 - Posted by: skacmar 11/17/2020 6:45:30 PM (No. 608875)
Fox is quickly learning: If it isn't broken, don't fix it! The destroyed their rating themselves. You reap what you sow and Fox planted some pretty bad seeds after the election!
25 people like this.

Reply 26 - Posted by: proactus 11/17/2020 7:08:47 PM (No. 608900)
I thought I was watching Morning Joe today, turns out it was the dueling banjo’s scene from Deliverance.
13 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: judy 11/17/2020 7:16:55 PM (No. 608905)
OH! pleaseeee...who would watch JOE?????I prefer to watch my neighbors horse to s--- in the field...Fox is sooo yesterday...by by Fox..Hi Newsmax!!!
23 people like this.

Reply 28 - Posted by: Strike3 11/17/2020 7:17:44 PM (No. 608908)
I found the perfect alternative to Fox when I get the urge to watch the news - a long walk with the dog. I learn more and I get to view the natural beauty of the earth for an hour or so - with no AA commercials.
18 people like this.

Reply 29 - Posted by: Common Sense Girl 11/17/2020 7:24:19 PM (No. 608915)
I luv Tucker, but even he has gone a little squishy since the election. Check out Lou Dobbs on FOX Business every week day evening...simple format, no conjecture, no self-serving baloney from politicians! Just the facts from those "in the know".
19 people like this.

Reply 30 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue 11/17/2020 7:24:37 PM (No. 608916)
We talked to our TV-cable provider Spectrum and we need to be put into a higher tier in order to get NEWSMAX. And therefor it would cost $50 MORE to be able to watch it! NO THANKS. We already pay too much. And did anyone notice how many commercials are squeezed in to every break? So we are paying a lot of money to watch commercials! It's getting like magazines....full of ads, very little substance. Then you get on the internet and you can hardly see what you tuned in to ready from all the pop-ups that cover the screen because you can't use the AD_BLOCKERS because you can't get to the articles you want to read. Anyone have any answers?
13 people like this.

Reply 31 - Posted by: GoodDeal 11/17/2020 7:24:54 PM (No. 608917)
You dealt it you smelt it. Deal with it. I can only imagine reruns of Matlock will get more ratings than Fix Snooze.
8 people like this.

Reply 32 - Posted by: doctorfixit 11/17/2020 7:39:22 PM (No. 608933)
Fok Snooze joined the Dark Side. Their betrayal is worse - the mainstream has always been fascist.
12 people like this.

Reply 33 - Posted by: stablemoney 11/17/2020 7:39:38 PM (No. 608934)
Fox News knows what the implications of their new policies will be. They do not care.
18 people like this.

Reply 34 - Posted by: rocket-j-squirrel 11/17/2020 7:48:05 PM (No. 608938)
I figure that most former Fox viewers have switched to watching reruns of Gunsmoke and Big Valley...but then there's always The Rifleman or The Virginian.😊
15 people like this.

Reply 35 - Posted by: Opsimath 11/17/2020 7:58:10 PM (No. 608947)
Must be the equivalent of crumbs they are posting for ratings. MSDNC has been a consistent bottom dweller as far as ratings go.
7 people like this.

Reply 36 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 11/17/2020 8:03:39 PM (No. 608949)
Can you hear us NOW??!!
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Reply 37 - Posted by: southcarolina 11/17/2020 8:23:00 PM (No. 608966)
Dishnetwork carries both Newsmax and RealAmericasVoice.. We live in a wooded area on a lake. Radio and TV signals are a problem. We are lucky to have Dish available. Check out www.whatfinger.com You may not need TV to keep up with news. There are videos available that may allow you to see what you are wanting to view. Hope this helps.
13 people like this.

Reply 38 - Posted by: bighambone 11/17/2020 9:15:32 PM (No. 608988)
When the Fox News Channel slighted the Trump supporters, who have been the Fox News Channel’s most important and reliable viewer base from the get-go, there is a good chance that the Fox News Channel committed corporate suicide.
19 people like this.

Reply 39 - Posted by: 24tea@Mag 11/17/2020 9:32:28 PM (No. 609000)
Too bad, Fox. Better get your act together.
8 people like this.

Reply 40 - Posted by: laurenc 11/17/2020 9:34:44 PM (No. 609001)
Download the NewsMax TV app from the play store if your cable co. doesn't carry it. Watch on your smart tv.
9 people like this.

Reply 41 - Posted by: smokincol 11/17/2020 10:21:58 PM (No. 609018)
yup, and exactly what I have done for the past month or so.
2 people like this.

Reply 42 - Posted by: Ladyhawke 11/17/2020 10:53:49 PM (No. 609031)
Fox destroyed their brand, pure and simple. They will likely never get it back. If they do, it will take many years. The F&Fs hosts were the best and mostt watchable. If I were them, I would be furious at management decisions. I would also be talking to my agent.
8 people like this.

Reply 43 - Posted by: DVC 11/18/2020 12:35:24 AM (No. 609086)
#34, Gunsmoke, Law and Order, Blue Bloods and Mountain Men.
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Joe Biden is poised to launch a COVID-19 economic relief plan worth “trillions” of dollars, the president-elect announced Friday. The relief plan will target state and local governments as well as provide new support for people who have lost their jobs as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, he said. Biden’s original plan was for a bill under $1 trillion but he said on Friday that “economic research confirms that with conditions like the crisis today, especially with such low-interest rates, taking immediate action—even with deficit financing—is going to help the economy.” Biden, who plans to unveil details on Thursday,
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