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Pollster Frank Luntz Says 'My Profession Is
Done' if Trump Defies Polls and Wins Again

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Posted By: NorthernDog, 10/24/2020 2:55:26 PM

National polls have Joe Biden ahead. State polls are tightening, but still give him an edge. However, Trump is outperforming his polling in 2016 in many battleground states. Is Trump headed for another surprise victory? According to pollster Frank Luntz, if Trump defies the polls again, his “profession is done.” “I hate to acknowledge it, because that’s my industry — at least partially — but the public will have no faith. No confidence. Right now, the biggest issue is the trust deficit,” Luntz told Bret Baier of Fox News. “Pollsters did not do a good job in 2016. So, if

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An old Gypsy Lady with a crystal ball is more trustworthy than Luntz and his 'profession'.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Moritz55 10/24/2020 2:57:49 PM (No. 582890)
And that would be a bad thing?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Italiano 10/24/2020 3:00:43 PM (No. 582897)
it's been done since 2016.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Periwinkel 10/24/2020 3:02:14 PM (No. 582901)
Frank Luntz is one of the most annoying people on TV. I hate his "undecided" audiences! They try to sound soooo intelligent and that is whey they are undecided when actually those silly people are just uninformed.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 10/24/2020 3:02:41 PM (No. 582902)
The Enemedia keeps it alive, stop whining.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Annie Xango 10/24/2020 3:02:50 PM (No. 582904)
I am sure there will be plenty of job openings for this dweb..such as mapping icebergs in the Artcic...etc. etc.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Midnight Rambler 10/24/2020 3:03:04 PM (No. 582906)
Looks like big Frank is just now catching up to the rest of us.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: john56 10/24/2020 3:03:22 PM (No. 582909)
Sure be nice if the political consultant class gifters would be out of business, too.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: AmericaYes 10/24/2020 3:03:41 PM (No. 582910)
Another good reason to vote Trump!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: seamusm 10/24/2020 3:04:53 PM (No. 582911)
Oh Frankie, you did it to yourself. You and your partners in crime have been so inept and in cahoots with Dems instead of truth that of course no one believes you anymore. What is not your fault is that in the face of anti-Trump violence polls hadn't a prayer of finding honest results. Hell, people are afraid to fly an American flag now. But maybe there is hope for your profession. Switch to marketing and polling for Madison Avenue. They'll always want to know which laundry soap people prefer.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Nimby 10/24/2020 3:14:37 PM (No. 582926)
It was gone last term around Luntz! Forgotten 2016 already?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 10/24/2020 3:15:55 PM (No. 582930)
“Professional “ comes from one who professes to know. Obviously, if he professes to know and he ends up being wrong, he’s an incompetent.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: janjan 10/24/2020 3:16:52 PM (No. 582932)
Caring about Frank Luntz’s career is nowhere on my priority list. Why would he even say this?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: YorkieMom 10/24/2020 3:18:48 PM (No. 582937)
Best news I’ve heard all day. Most of his “undecided “ voters are as dumb and un-truthful as Luntz is.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 10/24/2020 3:21:34 PM (No. 582943)
Luntz is done based on the email on Hunter's laptop that says he called the race for Biden, even though Ryan was a client.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bgarrett 10/24/2020 3:27:38 PM (No. 582950)
F**K Frank Luntz
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Reply 16 - Posted by: hershey 10/24/2020 3:28:34 PM (No. 582951)
Well dude, better pack your bag and get ready to hit the road...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: winmag 10/24/2020 3:31:06 PM (No. 582954)
No you little fat toadie. There are polling companies that are showing a Trump win. They don't oversample democrats by 10 points or ask slanted questions that produce your desired outcome.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: iSpartacus 10/24/2020 3:31:22 PM (No. 582957)
Your profession is done.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Venturer 10/24/2020 3:40:20 PM (No. 582968)
Nobody has any faith in the polls now Hoss. You people are a joke. You are trying like heck to get a win but saying someone is behind doesn't get the job done. If there is any patriotism left in America Trump will win in a landslide, and Biden's son will end up in jail
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Reply 20 - Posted by: mobyclik 10/24/2020 3:41:15 PM (No. 582970)
Might want to learn to code, Frankie.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: mindsport 10/24/2020 3:53:51 PM (No. 582980)
I was trying to explain to my husband that the best liars are conservative suburban house wives. They have to pretend to like and get alone with so many people, teachers, spouses boss/coworkers/friends/family, co-workers, childrens friends, childrens friends parents, loud mouth liberals with no filter and others that lack self awareness.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Jesse Jenkem 10/24/2020 3:57:00 PM (No. 582984)
What a buffoon.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: EQKimball 10/24/2020 4:02:14 PM (No. 582988)
Spoken like a man who cannot remain credible with his peers if he directly speaks what he suspects might happen.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: 66Strat 10/24/2020 4:02:33 PM (No. 582989)
One word: hairpiece. And a bad one at that. He's both unwatchable and unlistenable.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: PostAway 10/24/2020 4:09:08 PM (No. 582995)
The trouble for pollsters is that the public they rely on to supply them with honest answers has become jaded and untrusting. Many don't answer the questions at all or answer them dishonestly due to disdain or fear. Perhaps Luntz should cut the nonsense and find another line of work because even if Biden wins Luntz is a dinosaur.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: CallMeHank 10/24/2020 4:09:49 PM (No. 582996)
It's a part of the world's oldest profession.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: andyboy 10/24/2020 4:16:12 PM (No. 583002)
He will be wrong, but he And his fellow pollsters won’t be going away. Come 2024 they will be back with more sophisticated “scientific” polls that will be wrong again because they over-sample Democrats. .
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 10/24/2020 4:19:01 PM (No. 583005)
He'll poll for anyone who pays, and produce the result they want. Please. Poll whore.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Boni 10/24/2020 4:19:58 PM (No. 583007)
Then they should learn to code.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan 10/24/2020 4:27:49 PM (No. 583011)
You promise, Frank? More winning!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Bona Fides 10/24/2020 4:32:02 PM (No. 583013)
I do not care about them, just you. Buh-bye.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Lawsy0 10/24/2020 4:43:06 PM (No. 583019)
Luntz should learn to code! If the people who realize that DJT is best for the USA, will hold him firmly in their hearts and in their prayers those prayers WILL be answered. Believe in what you know to be right and just and hold it firmly so that when things happening behind the scenes come to light, YOU will have a share in the success and in the fruit that comes from those prayers. There are voters who NEVER EVER voted for a conservative before are ''secretly'' voting that way now. Additionally, do NOT give up on AG Barr. The wheels of justice move slowly, but exceedingly fine.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: singermom9 10/24/2020 4:50:56 PM (No. 583024)
I would NEVER tell a pollster my true feelings for fear of being burnt out or hurt by the lib dems
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Reply 34 - Posted by: red1066 10/24/2020 4:54:28 PM (No. 583026)
Frank Dunce should have been done years ago. Much like democrats and their agenda, he hasn't been right about anything for years. Only in D.C. and New York could someone fail over and over again, and still be employed.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Imright 10/24/2020 4:57:35 PM (No. 583031)
Hip-Hip-Hooray!!! Made my day!!! MAGA!!
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Reply 36 - Posted by: snapper451 10/24/2020 4:59:23 PM (No. 583035)
Counting the days Frank. Counting the days! (With glee) BTW - what kind of an idiot builds a replica of the Oval Office in his home? Sick puppy!
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Reply 37 - Posted by: StrikingViking 10/24/2020 5:01:23 PM (No. 583039)
What public good is accomplished by polling? The folks who rely on polling are the folks who want to sell you something: a car, an app, or a pol. The hoi polloi don't benifit. The pols use polling to craft their public statements into a form that they believe will gain them votes. And especially in this era, when the Left has ripped off its mask and revealed the bare-knuckled Fascists they have always been, many conservatives will either refuse to answer polls or will give a false answer in order to avoid being "exposed" as an Enemy of the People.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 10/24/2020 5:19:02 PM (No. 583054)
After DJT is re-elected, CNN can hire Luntz to do independent polls. The first one being on Jeffrey Toobin's Zoom call techniques.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/24/2020 5:36:46 PM (No. 583072)
Luntz, you could always try your hand at being a greeter at your local Walmart?
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Reply 40 - Posted by: judy 10/24/2020 5:41:15 PM (No. 583076)
2020 like 2016 proves the media & polls are irrelevant....
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Reply 41 - Posted by: judy 10/24/2020 5:42:42 PM (No. 583078)
Lunt’z town halls used to make me ill!
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Reply 42 - Posted by: GoodDeal 10/24/2020 6:03:40 PM (No. 583094)
Frank you assume all people responding to polls are telling the truth and not lying. Let me give you a clue. I got a pollster call last week and I told them I was absolutely voting for Biden. Hahahaha!!!!!! Guess what. I lied. I’m not alone.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: DVC 10/24/2020 6:16:29 PM (No. 583114)
I hope that is a PROMISE.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 10/24/2020 6:18:13 PM (No. 583116)
Yup! What good is a propaganda organization that has no power to persuade? You have to realize that the polls are a tool that the media and politicians use to STEER public opinion, NOT to figure out what the public wants. It's easy to "divine" what the public "thinks" when you are putting the thoughts in their heads. Trust and credibility was KEY to this process. But a while back someone came along that liberated people's thinking and convinced them that the media was NOT to be trusted, including their rigged polls. The reason the polls now have a hard time predicting outcomes is because fewer people are allowing themselves to be steered by those polls and the associated media propaganda. People are also refusing to participate because they correctly believe their opinions are being distorted. Fortunately, the egos and gamesmanship of the media and pollsters wouldn't let them back off. THEY control news and public opinion. It's their RIGHT! Everything they have been doing makes their attitude more obvious and proves they are unworthy of the positions they hold. Their credibility is destroyed and along with it, their value. No tears will be shed for them. They have done enormous damage to this great Country and allowed massive corruption of our political structures. They deserve what is happening to them, with hopefully more to come when Trump is reelected.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: Trump'sCousin 10/24/2020 6:23:24 PM (No. 583121)
Frank, you've been done for years. Display a little dignity and retire.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: anniebc 10/24/2020 6:38:17 PM (No. 583139)
Start packing.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: Hermoine 10/24/2020 6:43:14 PM (No. 583145)
Pollsters are like meterologists, they are wrong all the time and they are never held accountable.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: DW626 10/24/2020 6:44:14 PM (No. 583146)
Incompetence and over inflated feelings of self worth only go so far.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: NarratusLector 10/24/2020 6:45:29 PM (No. 583147)
Luntz is one of the arrogant fools on TV. I cannot stand his over the hill yapping about what he thinks. As soon as I see him on TV, I flip the channel.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: udanja99 10/24/2020 7:03:10 PM (No. 583166)
Not if you start being honest, Frank.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: Philipsonh 10/24/2020 7:08:35 PM (No. 583173)
The problem with Luntz is that he thinks we are still in the age of dial-up phones, newspapers, and when most folks told the truth, if asked. Today, many people will NOT answer a call that is not in their contact list, block unwanted calls, use the internet for news, rarely if ever read a newspaper, and often do not tell the truth, if asked a poll question. Who the heck are they polling ? The same people over and over. I have never been polled and would not answer a poll question if asked. It is no one's business who I will vote for or who I voted for. PERIOD.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: JHHolliday 10/24/2020 7:39:42 PM (No. 583193)
As another poster said, I don’t answer any caller not in my contact list. Almost all are either those endless calls about my expired car warranty or a scam. One call the other day said there was criminal activity on my SS account and a warrant would be issued for my arrest if I didn’t call them for help. LOL. I have seen a few apps that promise to block those calls. Any tips on the best one?
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Reply 53 - Posted by: sehall 10/24/2020 8:10:21 PM (No. 583216)
Well -- bye Frank.... don't let the door hit ya . . .
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Reply 54 - Posted by: rochow 10/24/2020 8:29:28 PM (No. 583230)
Considering that Luntz emailed Hunter before he might want to repeat it and get in touch with him for 'honest results'!
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Reply 55 - Posted by: MickTurn 10/24/2020 8:31:19 PM (No. 583232)
Polls say whatever those paying for them want it to say...It's that simple. There are no rules or regulations on this farce, they are all filled with loaded questions, rigged polling samplings and nothing but a political Lucy Football...Welcome to Charlie Browns world where he never gets to kick the ball, is always lied to and guess what, he never gets a clue...well Poll taker boys and girls and all 87 other genders, take your polls and pound sand, I'm tired of the pathetic political games! And, get a REAL JOB building something we can use! Be a contributor to society not a leech!
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Reply 56 - Posted by: tomatodon 10/24/2020 8:54:14 PM (No. 583257)
WE HAVE NO FAITH IN POLLS NOW. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE AFTER TRUMP WINS. CONSERVATIVES ARE UNWILLING TO SPEAK FREELY WITH POLL TAKERS. THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: bighambone 10/24/2020 9:41:39 PM (No. 583286)
He must have lost his Republican polling contracts?
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Reply 58 - Posted by: RedWhiteBlue 10/24/2020 10:20:48 PM (No. 583306)
BUH-BYE!!!!!
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Reply 59 - Posted by: msjena 10/24/2020 10:23:30 PM (No. 583307)
What is Luntz’s profession? I thought he just ran those focus groups on Fox News.
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Reply 60 - Posted by: SweetSweetback 10/24/2020 11:59:44 PM (No. 583335)
It’s as done as his hairpiece
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Reply 61 - Posted by: doctorfixit 10/25/2020 12:08:43 AM (No. 583344)
Luntz-with-the-Bidens got an email from Hunter telling him what to do.
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Reply 62 - Posted by: Trigger2 10/25/2020 12:40:35 AM (No. 583369)
Don't let the door hit you on your arse, Frankie, on your way out.
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Reply 63 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 10/25/2020 1:11:27 AM (No. 583382)
That ain't all bad. Shall we reserve you a spot on the one way trip on the Ship of Fools leaving the country if Trump wins "again" ? Just trying to save the cruise ship industry. /s
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Reply 64 - Posted by: NotaBene 10/25/2020 2:46:50 AM (No. 583417)
Frank Luntz is yet another NeverTrumper that corresponded with corrupt Hunter Biden. He is dead to me.
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Posted by chance_232 10/25/2020 8:14:05 AM Post Reply

In the final days before the election, Joe Biden holds significant advantages in polling and fundraising over President Trump along with myriad options for a party desperate not to repeat the mistakes of 2016 but also tantalized by a potential “blue wave.” Mr. Biden’s campaign believes he is in a position to reclaim traditionally Democratic ground and expand the map, potentially running up the Electoral College score in purple and even red-leaning states. Correction*

Why Trump Has a Serious
Chance of Winning. Really.
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Posted by MissMolly 10/25/2020 4:50:27 AM Post Reply
If the election were held today, Joe Biden would probably win. But there are strong signs that the race is much, much closer than you’d think from the news coverage. Donald Trump has a real shot at being reelected. First, the president is actually more popular now than on the day he was elected. Yes, that’s right. His personal favorability rating around election day in 2016 was 37.5%. Now, it is 43.2%. There are, in fact, hundreds of thousands of Americans (if not millions) who have grown fonder of Trump. We all know it’s not about the popular vote so let’s disregard nationwide polls that have Biden ahead by double digits.
Chicago Will Start Ticketing Motorists For
Going 6 MPH Over Speed Limit
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Posted by hershey 10/25/2020 10:42:25 AM Post Reply

Here in Middle America, there are small towns where going a couple of miles per hour over the speed limit will get you stopped by the town’s lone police officer. These “speed traps” are dotted throughout the region as, many times, a significant portion of a town’s revenue comes from issuing these tickets. Now, the entire city of Chicago will become one, gigantic speed trap. Mayor Lori Lightfoot is going to rig traffic cameras to automatically issue tickets for residents going just 6 MPH over the posted speed limit.  Correction*

NYC Hotel Occupancy Rate Crashes Toward 10%
As Permanent Closures Loom
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Posted by hershey 10/25/2020 10:36:13 AM Post Reply
Prices at New York City hotels have plunged as the hospitality industry continues to try and grapple with the effects of the global pandemic. Some hotels, like the Midtown Hilton, have remained closed since March. Others, like the Pierre, are operating in limited capacity. Those that are open for business have slashed prices by more than 60%, according to a new writeup by AlJazeera.
Tampa takes World Series Game 4,
evens series on ridiculous walk-off
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Posted by Hazymac 10/25/2020 9:28:56 AM Post Reply
The Rays eked out a dramatic 8-7 walk-off win over the Dodgers in Game 4 of the World Series on Saturday night to tie the best-of-seven Fall Classic at 2-2 (box score). Reserve outfielder Brett Phillips notched a game-tying single in the ninth off Dodgers closer Kenley Jansen, and Randy Arozarena was also able to score on an error by center fielder Chris Taylor and then a mishandled throw by L.A. catcher Will Smith. It had already been a wild game before one of the wildest culminations to a World Series game in living memory came along. Here's a look at the final play:
Early Voting Is a Cancer on the Electoral
Process, and This Graph Proves It
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Posted by Hazymac 10/25/2020 11:54:46 AM Post Reply
During the Democratic primaries earlier this year, voters who cast early ballots for Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar in Super Tuesday states found out the hard way that early voting can be dangerous. Both candidates dropped out before Super Tuesday, and voters who cast ballots for them couldn’t do anything about it. They couldn’t revote. The only state that allowed voters to change their ballots was Minnesota, but the deadline had already passed. Scenarios like this should have been the nail in the coffin for early voting. But the pandemic raised concerns about in-person voting for many and has caused a huge surge
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