Battered by Trump, the CDC's director
faces pressure to speak out
New York Times,
by
Sheryl Gay Stolberg
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
10/11/2020 4:03:04 PM
Washington–Pressure is mounting on the leaders of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—from inside and outside the agency—to speak publicly against the White House’s manhandling of CDC research and public health decisions, with career scientists so demoralized they are talking of quitting if President Donald Trump wins re-election. The situation came to a boiling point last week when William Foege, a giant in public health who led the CDC under Democratic and Republican presidents, called for its current director, Dr. Robert Redfield, to “stand up to a bully”—he meant Trump—even at the risk of being fired. “Silence becomes complicity,”
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 10/11/2020 4:13:26 PM (No. 569480)
OP said it all. Redfield should be fired first.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
aasilver 10/11/2020 4:15:46 PM (No. 569484)
The CDC is one of the best examples of the DEEP swamp that is Washington bureaucrats. A live long position with no chance of firing no matter how bad a job they do,
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
fca 10/11/2020 4:16:55 PM (No. 569486)
CDC quietly updated covid numbers .. Only 6 percent are dying from covid alone .. >> anyone who is pushing for more unconstitutional lock-downs and other abuses on our personal constitutional rights is either evil or terribly misinformed… Toss the mask and get back to living free..
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
DVC 10/11/2020 4:18:50 PM (No. 569491)
CDC is a nest of incompetent leftist snakes. Firing a couple or three dozen would improve things a lot.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Lazyman 10/11/2020 4:21:43 PM (No. 569495)
I see the unnamed sources are hard at work.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
dwa 10/11/2020 4:31:17 PM (No. 569503)
The NYT is up to its normal tricks. Why anyone pays attention to this rag is beyond me. The National Enquirer has more truth and credibility. The NYT is not even fit to line the bottom of a birdcage.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Namma 10/11/2020 4:38:16 PM (No. 569506)
BIL has COPD. Went into the hospital on Wednesday. Was told he has the Wuhan flu. He is home today. He was given the same meds PRESIDENT Trump was given while in Walter Reed Hosp. I would think that the CDC would be on top of this medication. Ramping up production (in the USA) and getting it out to hospitals. These scientists at the CDC should all quit. We could get real drs and scientists working there. Might save a few lives!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
snapper451 10/11/2020 4:40:45 PM (No. 569508)
No loss if they quite, including Saint Fauci. Time to bring in a younger, smarter, less political generation of experts.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
4Diogenes 10/11/2020 4:45:50 PM (No. 569510)
Imagine someone from the CDC trying to update their resume and list their accomplishments. Kinda brings a smile to my face.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Nimby 10/11/2020 4:49:59 PM (No. 569514)
Blah, blah, blah- Aren’t these the same clowns who messed up the COVID-19 detection kits at the time of need in early Feb? Why wait for the election? Trump IS the President now. Why are they still hanging around in the agency?
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The CDC is at fault for keeping doctors from giving HCQ to my 86 year old mother, who has covid!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 10/11/2020 5:01:45 PM (No. 569521)
“ they are talking of quitting if President Donald Trump wins re-election”
Another compelling reason to re-elect President Trump.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
anniebc 10/11/2020 5:10:05 PM (No. 569527)
The career scientists should quit if they're that demoralized. If knowingly lying about a disease (faux pandemic) doesn't demoralize them, they have no morals.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
davew 10/11/2020 5:24:40 PM (No. 569544)
Has anyone at the CDC or NIH read the two scientific papers authored by the top researcher at the Hong Kong WHO monitoring laboratory, Dr. Li-Meng Yan? She has compiled genomic sequence data on the SARS-COV-2 virus that indicates it did not evolve in nature. It further shows that PLA scientists fabricated data that has been published to the international GenBank database to cover their tracks and confuse the scientific community.
Rather than worrying about their political butts maybe they could have some of our own virus experts corroborate her findings and determine if we have actually been attacked by a bioweapon from the CCP. That seems like a slightly more important priority than who gets to keep their cushy job after the election.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 10/11/2020 5:24:59 PM (No. 569545)
The way that CDC handled the reporting of cases, each person involved, starting with the Director should be fired. CDC is a political hack organization. My understanding the Director of CDC can't even get the guidance correct about the virus. He is no better than the quack Fauci.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 10/11/2020 5:29:12 PM (No. 569548)
#11, you should try to get her the Regeneron monoclonal antibodies treatment. It is likely to help her fight off this disease.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
stablemoney 10/11/2020 5:31:01 PM (No. 569551)
If the boss says you aren't doing your job, you should do your job, and not go to the newspapers and spout off.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Vesicant 10/11/2020 5:33:14 PM (No. 569554)
"Career scientists" -- there's your problem. Which do you think comes first?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 10/11/2020 5:39:08 PM (No. 569560)
The fact that they put out worthless test kits early on proves that they are incompetent at a level that should get their budget cut by 80% at least. CDC is unnecessary, especially when they prove that their 'emergency response capability' is of zero value.
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#16 As I understand it, Regeneron it is still getting approved.
Trump and Christy got it because they have connections.
My mom is early in the illness and not terribly sick yet. HCQ is very helpful for her situation.
But the CDC is pushing doctors to tell patients it is dangerous and refuse to give it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/11/2020 6:01:36 PM (No. 569578)
Oh if only it were true that the lard-butts at the CDC would really actually up and quit if President Trump wins re-election. If only the Hollyweird people would really actually move to other countries if President Trump wins re-election. Some of those dry holes have been promising to leave ever since Dubya was elected the first time.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
nina584 10/11/2020 6:45:41 PM (No. 569614)
He needs to resign ASAP. He was responsible for the testing mess up that happened early on. He also had very low inventory of PPE
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Gruntmedic 10/11/2020 7:17:13 PM (No. 569633)
The CDC wasn't ready for the outbreak.
The head guy hates Trump.
They talked against using Chloraquine,even though it works.
Add Zinc and D3 and you will be protected our probably have mild case
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 10/11/2020 7:24:29 PM (No. 569638)
Government doesn't always attract the best and brightest... quite the opposite.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
DVC 10/11/2020 8:29:17 PM (No. 569670)
#20, no matter how sick she is or isn't, she should be pushing every button she has to get the Regeneron, even though it is not fully approved. The monoclonal antibodies just shut down the virus, deactivating it's capability to enter human cells and reproduce. HCQ suppresses the body's inappropriate response to the virus, helpful, but the immune system still has to work hard and long to kill off the virus.
Regeneron is a huge 'jump start'. I am certain that if I wind up with this stuff, I will be doing whatever it takes to get the monoclonal antibodies for me, or for any of my loved ones. IMO, it will be the game changer.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
The Remnants 10/11/2020 9:51:31 PM (No. 569708)
The CDC has been battering our country for close to nine months. Latest casualty I've noticed is a little music school on main street that was there for at least ten years.No idea how many teachers there were, but they had banners on front windows that listed about six or more instruments they taught. Empty. For rent. Thank you CDC and company.
Lived through the Hong Kong flu. No shutdowns. One hundred thousand died, and that was probably a true count and did not include car accidents, cancer and heart attacks.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 10/11/2020 11:00:34 PM (No. 569737)
Stop lying then and you won't have to worry about Trump calling you out on your agitprop and BS propaganda. Fire them all if they will not stop with the lies.
4 people like this.
Reply 28 - Posted by:
XCenturion 10/12/2020 12:04:25 AM (No. 569762)
Speak out hell, he should resign!
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