Pope says coronavirus pandemic has
proven that ‘magic theories’ of market
capitalism have failed and world
needs a new type of politics
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Katie Feehan
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
10/4/2020 12:06:20 PM
Pope Francis says the coronavirus pandemic has proven that the 'magic theories' of market capitalism have failed and that the world needs a new type of politics that promotes dialogue and solidarity. Francis on Sunday laid out his vision for a post-COVID world by uniting the core elements of his social teachings into a new encyclical, 'Fratelli Tutti' (Brothers All), which was released on the feast day of his namesake, the peace-loving St. Francis of Assisi.(Snip) He rejected the concept of an absolute right to property for individuals, stressing instead the 'social purpose' and common good that must come from sharing
Reply 1 - Posted by:
BillW. 10/4/2020 12:12:51 PM (No. 561676)
Exactly right, OP. And Traitor Obama, Soros, Criminal Clinton, and Beijing Joe knew about it all along. This Pope is a rediculous commie clown.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Sunhan65 10/4/2020 12:18:03 PM (No. 561682)
"Brothers All"?
This fellow hasn't been getting the memos: that kind is cis-normative language won't fly at all with his progressive friends.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
stablemoney 10/4/2020 12:18:25 PM (No. 561683)
The world needs to try another type of catholicism, one without the pope.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
davew 10/4/2020 12:19:29 PM (No. 561686)
Its clear the Pope believes the future of humanity is with the Chinese CCP and not the democratic West. This is further evidenced by the secret agreement between the CCP and the Pope to allow the party to determine who will be assigned as bishops to the underground church in China. The party must maintain absolute control over the minds of their people so that they reject any power higher than the state.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jean123 10/4/2020 12:20:38 PM (No. 561688)
Wait, I missed the paragraph that says he sold off all the Church’s very valuable possessions and gave the proceeds to the poor and threw open the doors to all the Vatican’s properties to house the needy
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 10/4/2020 12:24:30 PM (No. 561695)
If that is true, why is this Pope sitting on top of one of the world's largest piles of wealth on the planet? Hypocrisy, thy name is Pope Francis.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 10/4/2020 12:24:40 PM (No. 561696)
The dangerous old Communist needs to stop opining about worldly things. Stick to wrecking the Church, you fraud.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 10/4/2020 12:25:13 PM (No. 561697)
Fratelli Tutti? More like Tutti Fruiti. This pope is a commie whackadoodle. To try and equate a virus with an economic system is completely nuts. Can we get Benedict to come out of retirement?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
BGray2 10/4/2020 12:26:51 PM (No. 561698)
Sorry Catholics, but the Pope is a well meaning idiot. Without capitalism and market forces, along with the inventions and innovations that they bring, half the worlds population would have already died due to famine or pestilence.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Hazymac 10/4/2020 12:28:47 PM (No. 561702)
It seems the godless Pope Francis is confusing Marx and Jesus. How amazing. The bloke is a bloody commie, not a Christian.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
StrikingViking 10/4/2020 12:30:38 PM (No. 561705)
So, our Marxist Pope says there is no "absolute" right to property. In the history of the world, there has never been an absolute right to anything. It's a complicated world. What the Pope means is that there is no right to property, that property rights are subordinate to what the Pope would call human rights.
But consider: People acquire property by laboring in return for money. If you work full time, maybe overtime, for many years in order to save up the down payment for owning a home, is not that "property" actually the distilled essence of years of your labor? If some commie Pope says that you have no right to your property, is he not really saying that your labor is involuntary servitude?
Let's stop letting communists get away with dismissing property rights as if these rights were not on a par with human rights.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
jalo1951 10/4/2020 12:33:14 PM (No. 561709)
Obviously the upper crust of the Vatican is infested with swamp dwellers. I am not a Catholic but many of my Catholic friends are very concerned about this Pope and his "beliefs". After admiring Pope John Paul it is a travesty to see this swamp rat and his minions trash the Catholic church.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
mean Gene 10/4/2020 12:36:06 PM (No. 561713)
So, the Biblical concept of charity is not good enough for this pope.
He is like those lefties who believe it all belongs to the state and the state will take care of everyone.
Good luck finding a new cure for any new disease if there's no profit motive.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
jjs 10/4/2020 12:38:17 PM (No. 561717)
Maybe after Trump is done in 2025 he can take over for the Obama Pope.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
tjdard 10/4/2020 12:38:24 PM (No. 561718)
I'm Catholic and I'm ashamed of this Pope and many in the Church. What has the Council of Bishops said about NY new abortion law, silence. Why have they not condemned Biden or Pelosi?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
justjoe1237 10/4/2020 12:40:47 PM (No. 561721)
In an upside down and backwards world, where the police are villains and murderous thugs heroes, where governors and mayors sworn to serve their cities encourage and support the burning and looting of those cities, where the Chinese despots who released a deadly virus on the world escape condemnation and President Donald Trump, who has worked tirelessly to combat the pandemic, is vilified-- the Catholic Church has a communist pope. Perfect.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MDConservative 10/4/2020 12:48:47 PM (No. 561724)
If there's no absolute right of ownership...I've had my eye on that big tiara the Pope wears, and his apartment has a great view of St. Peter's Square...and he's not using it, either. Sad to see it wasted.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
coyote 10/4/2020 12:48:50 PM (No. 561725)
What's yours is mine, is not new economics.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
hershey 10/4/2020 12:50:05 PM (No. 561728)
Someone left the door to the nuthouse open again...shove him back in....
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Kate318 10/4/2020 12:51:05 PM (No. 561729)
The convoluted thinking in this release is straight out of Das Kapital, and the Communist Manifesto. It flies in the face of the very Gospels themselves, wherein Jesus repeatedly invoked the image of the wealthy landowner as a metaphor for The Father. In those parables, the landowner asks those who question his choices, of how and to whom he chooses to give, whether or not it is his right to do so. The challenge and opportunity for Christians has always new to serve and give from the heart, not under the threat of government retaliation. There is no freedom of will in the latter. That the Catholic Church has now melded the heavy hand of government into the false notion of “social justice” just shows how well the devil knows Scripture, and how effective he has been at twisting the words of Jesus, Himself.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
NYbob 10/4/2020 12:51:34 PM (No. 561731)
Did someone mention the Anti-Christ?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Kate318 10/4/2020 12:52:51 PM (No. 561733)
Sorry, has always been.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
bad-hair 10/4/2020 12:58:20 PM (No. 561743)
Pope seems to think he's the KING.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Daisymay 10/4/2020 1:01:58 PM (No. 561746)
I think what the world needs is a new Pope! Maybe someone Swedish for a change! Can't wait to see that white smoke!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Allie 10/4/2020 1:02:36 PM (No. 561748)
#5, your comments remind me of "The Shoes of the Fisherman", a 1968 film in which the first Russian pope pledges to sell off the property of the Catholic Church in order to feed the starving Chinese Communists.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/4/2020 1:03:36 PM (No. 561750)
If I were still a church going Catholic, the next time they passed the plate around I'd only put in a note:
'I'm still waiting for my share of the Vatican's riches. Communists didn't build it - Capitalists built it"
I refuse to read anything more about the 'Pope' unless he's been replaced.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/4/2020 1:05:10 PM (No. 561754)
The pope has made an ass of himself more than once and a mockery of the Catholic Church. He has caused thousands of people to leave the church, possibly tens of thousands. The Vatican will probably never provide the real numbers. I hope this was a mistake and not the true leaning of the church.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
His_Highness 10/4/2020 1:09:15 PM (No. 561759)
The world needs a new kind of Pope, one who actually believes in Jesus and the Bible.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Right Time 10/4/2020 1:09:23 PM (No. 561760)
What does market capitalism have to do with Chinese Coronavirus, you stupid communist Fake Pope?
Exactly how did the free market fail.
This jerk doesn't know what he's talking about, except that he uses any pretext to slam the West.
Free True Pope Benedict!
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Shmowry1 10/4/2020 1:09:35 PM (No. 561762)
As a catholic I can safely say he is the worst pope ever and his brand of socialism is the antithesis of Christianity. He is incompetent and should be removed from the papacy.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 10/4/2020 1:16:01 PM (No. 561771)
Not well meaning at all, #9. He is pure evil, just occasionally says something that goes along with traditional Catholic / Christian values as cover for his nefarious intentions.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Cat Ballou 10/4/2020 1:16:10 PM (No. 561773)
The Pope needs to clutch his rosary beads and tend to his own knitting.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Connor 10/4/2020 1:33:08 PM (No. 561797)
Can we divorce this Pope? Maybe now is the time to change the rule that he serves for life. He is a curse and embarrassment.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
lakerman1 10/4/2020 1:48:09 PM (No. 561808)
wow! Pope Marxist I just came out and admitted that he is a full blown (no pun intended) Communist1 And an idiot.
Capitalism has helped the entire worlds to conquer diseases. The only medical advance of significance flowing from a Communist country was the eye surgeon in the Soviet Union who discovered, by accident, a process to operate on the cornea to correct one's vision.
This Pope is a dunce, and a damned fool.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
gop_guys 10/4/2020 1:49:18 PM (No. 561811)
Xi Jinping’s check is in the mail.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
cheeflo 10/4/2020 1:58:13 PM (No. 561824)
Stay in your own lane, Frank. You know nothing about the real world.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
fcwiv 10/4/2020 2:09:18 PM (No. 561829)
Ah....Pope Francis thinks we need a new world order. The false prophet speaks.......
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
mathman 10/4/2020 2:28:09 PM (No. 561837)
Comrade Bergolio is certainly qualified to speak on Marxism.
That he can speak about the faith once delivered to the Saints is in doubt.
False prophet. Evil shepherd.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
TJ54 10/4/2020 2:35:44 PM (No. 561843)
Pope Libtard the First makes it harder each day to remain Catholic. His country, Brazil, was once one of the 10th richest countries in the world until it bought into Socialism.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
bighambone 10/4/2020 2:40:21 PM (No. 561851)
Throughout history Popes have meddled in the politics of nation states, and in most cases the Popes came out on the short end of the stick, while sowing distrust and religiously based long-term problems anywhere they interfered. There is no doubt that this particular Pope’s politics lands someplace between Communist and socialism for what it is worth.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
nina584 10/4/2020 2:47:08 PM (No. 561855)
The Vatican is the biggest corporation in the world. Just the riches in the museum can feed millions.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
DVC 10/4/2020 3:19:24 PM (No. 561888)
"magic theories".....It takes a real fool to believe that nonsense.
Free markets are the ONLY way that the world has ever actually created large amounts of good conditions for most people. All other systems have enriched a few at the top, and impoverished everyone else. ALL other systems, ALWAYS, for thousands of years have failed the average person.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
jimincalif 10/4/2020 3:40:35 PM (No. 561908)
I didn’t leave the Catholic Church, the church left me.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
dwa 10/4/2020 3:41:13 PM (No. 561909)
The sooner the devil takes this pope, the better it will be for the world.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Italiano 10/4/2020 3:59:37 PM (No. 561920)
Pope False Prophet I
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 10/4/2020 4:09:49 PM (No. 561929)
Somebody ask the Pope if God has any place in his vision for Christianity. Brothers all? You first pal. Be your brother's keeper. Tell us how much the Chinese are paying you. What has the papacy done to fight Covid?
God and religion are two different topics. When religion doesn't focus on God, we end up with things like a Communist Pope, child molesting priests, and Mullahs that behead people. They will all try to tell you their actions are in the name of God but they are not.
In the current age of fakery it should be no surprise we have fake religions. Anyone that believes in God should make sure God is first and their religion is second. Religion can be corrupted just like any other social institution.
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Hey, Pope Frankie. Come here darlin' I want to tell you something...STF up. You're just more convincing in your commie ways. You may be responsible for losing your flock. Gads. What a you-know-what. (posted by a living RC person).
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
ronniethek 10/4/2020 4:42:30 PM (No. 561955)
With apologies to Catholics everywhere-how do you follow this idiot?
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Go away, Pope Frankie. Get lost in your commie dreams. You do not represent the Jesus I believe in. I loathe you Frankie.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
MorningStar 10/4/2020 5:10:03 PM (No. 561979)
"Pope says coronavirus pandemic has proven that ‘magic theories’ of market capitalism have failed and world needs a new type of politics." My response to the pontiff's mistaken notion of 'magic theories' of market capitalism is temporarily residing in Walter Reed Naval Medical Center.. One of the many reasons that our beloved President Donald Trump is recovering so "miraculously" well is due to the discovery of Remdesivir and Regeron's monoclonal and polyclonal drugs, which have been infused into our president. Trump is a fighter, and he will return quicker to the WH than previously expected. If it wasn't our free market system of capitalism, these drugs would never have been discovered and utilized with such magnificent timing. Had they been brought about months from now, it would've too late. Is God Great, or what?! Timing is everything!! Please continue to pray for our President, our continuing robust economy, SC nominee, and the upcoming election. America is blessed indeed!
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/4/2020 5:25:53 PM (No. 561994)
The Pope is an idiot. He can barely keep up with the dogma of Catholicism, much less 21st Century economics. He should get a real job~~
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Reply 52 - Posted by:
Petronius 10/4/2020 5:30:27 PM (No. 562001)
The Pope denounced "Magic Theories" that have demonstrably lifted millions out of poverty and fealty while he transubstantiates a wheat wafer and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus.
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Reply 53 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/4/2020 6:46:26 PM (No. 562052)
#49, a lot of us no longer do. He’s the reason I haven’t attended mass in over a year. He needs to shut up and pray.
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Reply 54 - Posted by:
crashnburn 10/5/2020 12:08:24 AM (No. 562242)
#3, I'd change it to:
"Catholicism without this Pope!"
In some places, they practice Liberation Theology
which is actually communism in disguise!
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Reply 55 - Posted by:
Peaches 10/5/2020 12:21:28 AM (No. 562245)
Benedict is my pope.
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If my church had the pedophile problems yours does, I would not open my mouth. You take care of the Vatican and mind your own business. We love this country, this President, capitalism, and freedom. Don't need your help.
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Reply 57 - Posted by:
judy 10/5/2020 6:34:41 AM (No. 562360)
Capitalism $$$$ help keep the Pope afloat...
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Reply 58 - Posted by:
LaVallette 10/5/2020 8:02:41 AM (No. 562430)
The Pope is infallible ONLY matters of faith and morals, and often this impact on issues of political, social, economic and personal matters and behaviors. However he is also fully entitled to express a point of view on worldly matters and matters concerning politics and economics, (and he has a battery of experts and probably the best diplomatic and direct local contact network in the world to keep him informed on what is going on anywhere at any given time) as much as any other world leader or individual and try to persuade others people to his point of view on those matters. But those matters are generally referred to in Catholic teaching as "PRUDENTIAL" matters and not matters of DOGMA and therefore are not binding on any of the faithful people. On prudential matters all the Faithful are entitled to apply their own intellect and knowledge and individual conscience. Jesus put it as "Give unto Caesar the matters that belong to Caesar and to God all that belongs to God". St Augustine was more blunt: "In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity." Note the last point: disagreement does not mean a license to hate.
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Reply 59 - Posted by:
Hermit_Crab 10/5/2020 8:56:26 PM (No. 563121)
Argentina, #40, Not Brazil. Not that it matters much. The story would be much the same.
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Reply 60 - Posted by:
Gazela 10/5/2020 11:27:02 PM (No. 563238)
It’s hard to tell if this pontiff is a pope who happens to be an Argy or an Argy who somehow stumbled into the papacy.
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Comments:
Communist China released a virus, which it intentionally spread to the rest of the world. According to the infallible communist pope, this means the world needs more communism.