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Debate Recap: Trump Wins,
Biden Doesn't Faint,
Chris Wallace Goes Down Hard

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 9/30/2020 3:29:07 AM

President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden went head-to-head on Tuesday night, and moderator Chris Wallace got knocked out. Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden, but both candidates talked over him. Trump and Biden brought out the fisticuffs and both got in a few good hits. Biden stumbled but he did not come across as a bumbling fool. While Trump and Biden both went on the offensive, Trump got in more clear statements and Biden came across as shifty, especially on packing the Supreme Court.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: F15 Gork 9/30/2020 3:48:24 AM (No. 557084)
As expected PDJT ended up debating both Plugs and Wallace. Debates 2 & 3 will likely be the same.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MSUDoc 9/30/2020 3:53:26 AM (No. 557087)
From first paragraph: “ Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden”....Huh?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 9/30/2020 5:49:04 AM (No. 557117)
#2. Apparently the authors editor died.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq 9/30/2020 5:50:54 AM (No. 557120)
Anyone expecting a non-partisan moderator can wait till Kingdom come. Wife watched; I slept. No surprises.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 9/30/2020 6:33:16 AM (No. 557144)
I got so frustrated that I turned it off! The constant interrupting kept me from hearing Biden's potential lies and gaffes. We might as well cancel future debates, and just listen to the person we plan to vote for, and assess what their position is on issues. If Trump says he will do something, he will. If Biden says something you like, it is just election tripe. I doubt if anyone changed their mind last night, because everyone is so set on these two very opposite choices. If you hate Trump because he is rude, you got what you wanted. If you love Trump because he is a fighter, you got what you wanted.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Texpub 9/30/2020 6:35:18 AM (No. 557146)
I agree with #1, but I'm not sure there will be 2 more debates.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 9/30/2020 6:35:19 AM (No. 557147)
Biden pumped full of amphetamines?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 9/30/2020 6:36:07 AM (No. 557148)
This was painful to watch. Trump won by truth-telling and calling Biden out on all of his failures and lies but he could not stop interrupting and repeating. The debate would have been better if he had let Biden simply hang himself instead of jumping on his every word outside of his allocated two minutes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 9/30/2020 6:57:51 AM (No. 557160)
I find it hard to really declare anyone a winner of this mess. Listening to the clips this morning, obviously Trump won on substance, but he was overly aggressive and with his non-stop jabbing he missed a few opportunities to deliver a knock out blow. Dementia Joe was his usual rude, mean, nasty self, and was overly vague and evasive.on most issues, merely attacking Trump instead of specifying out what he would do. And Wallace embarrassed himself, losing control of the situation early on and then effectively becoming a third debater. Truth be told, I bailed out about halfway through, switching over to the much more entertaining Chopped.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum 9/30/2020 7:00:45 AM (No. 557162)
Big disappointment all around last night. The President should have just gone out there and spoken to the American people and left Biden to talk himself into trouble. A couple of times I thought Biden was not going to be able to reel himself in, but he managed to just in the nick of time. The medicinal cocktail worked pretty well for him. The animosity between the participants was evident. They cannot stand each other and it showed. Biden was name calling and Trump was interrupting when he should have just let Joe hang himself with his ramblings. Trump was in the catbird seat but he let a lot of opportunities get away. Hammering Hunter Biden was a mistake. One quick jab and let it go, but don’t keep grinding on it. The blame for much of the disaster lies at the feet of Chris Wallace. He asked bad questions. Was clearly biased and lost control of the debate. Two improvements would be to turn of the mic after the candidate stops speaking and bring back the buzzer. One more, never allow Chris Wallace to moderate a debate again. You want a real debate? Let Tucker Carlson moderate.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: OBX Pete 9/30/2020 7:09:41 AM (No. 557166)
I can say that Wallace lost the debate. He lost control from opening to close. Did ya'll noticed that Biden was looking down constantly and obviously reading from something on top of his pedestal?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: coldoc 9/30/2020 7:19:56 AM (No. 557172)
Chrissy was a cheap shot artist. Is he the best the dems can do?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Cooling Saucer 9/30/2020 7:24:32 AM (No. 557173)
A poster at Last Refuge gave a link to this: https://twitter.com/Media__Ferret/status/1311167917636059144 -- anyone see this? Is it hooey?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40 9/30/2020 7:24:41 AM (No. 557174)
The rules and structure were unbalanced and therefore unfair. Enough time for Biden to get in his lies but not enough for PDT to debunk him. Joe said human activity was responsible for increase in hurricanes, floods and fires. This false and highly irresponsible. But not enough time left for Trump. Four major areas - economy, COVID, law & order, Climate and energy. Same story. Next debate Trump should use his allotted introduction and lay out these lies. Warning the audience he is going to do it again. All in all very frustrating
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Cherrybark 9/30/2020 7:32:01 AM (No. 557179)
The debate was a complete mess. I think Trump would have been better served by speaking more directly to the American people, reviewing his administrations accomplishments and plans. He could have put Wallace and Biden in their places with the serious Presidential bearing he is capable of rather than resort to repeated sniping and interruptions. This was expected to be the most watched political broadcast in history and I believe it was a lost opportunity. I won't watch another. I expected to be slammed for this opinion and was impressed to find others saying Trump missed the boat on this one.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: BaldGuy 9/30/2020 7:35:19 AM (No. 557183)
#5 and 15....thanks....everything I needed to know this morning....won't have to read too much more into it...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: birmingham 9/30/2020 7:52:33 AM (No. 557193)
Trump could have been much more effective last night by calmly stating his accomplishments and not being so peevish. I think he was trying to get Joe to really lose his temper but Joe-voters wouldn’t care if he did so it was a lost opportunity.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: rikkitikki 9/30/2020 7:55:51 AM (No. 557194)
Only hardball questions were to Trump: Biden got only slow pitches.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rumblehog 9/30/2020 8:03:13 AM (No. 557200)
We know Biden was on medication and that he had the question talking points printed out and on his podium to read from, so the real question from last night was - What brand of adult diapers was Biden wearing to avoid the 30 minute potty breaks?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: ilovedogs 9/30/2020 8:18:22 AM (No. 557210)
My only comfort is that Reagan did not do well in a debate once. That said, the moderator is supposed to be in charge. Wish just once a "regular" joe could moderate.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: sadc 9/30/2020 8:21:10 AM (No. 557213)
Yes, #2, I think this first paragraph is backwards. The entire format did not allow for civility. Wallace should have modified it when it was going off the rails. Allow both to speak uninterrupted and then rebuttal after someone wanted to comment on anything the opponent said that was not true or needed clarification. Pushing forward to cover all of the topics made no sense. When Biden refused to answer packing the court and ending the filibuster, Wallace didn't even push him to answer or question Biden's response to just vote for him and then you will see.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LesUNo 9/30/2020 8:23:30 AM (No. 557215)
America lost. Wallace was a disaster. Trump doesn’t know when to shut up. Biden was a medicated and arrogant mess trying to read his NOTES. Turned it off at 10 pm. That was too painful to watch.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: gone2pot 9/30/2020 8:27:11 AM (No. 557217)
Watched the whole thing. Biden AND Wallace started the interruption game against Trump and the president just did what he always does and fought back and interrupted Biden. Then it was a non-stop interruption-fest against Trump and Wallace-Biden. Wallace NEVER allowed Trump to make his points and tried to stop him every single time. Trump had to overcome the false premise on EVERY issue all night. So many missed opportunities and there were five distinct opportunities Trump missed to let Joe go full frontal dementia but Trump interrupted and wouldn't allow Biden go into orbit over Ganymede. It turned into a food fight. I went into blood shooting out of my eyes anger when Wallace asked about the illegal gotten tax information yet asked nothing from Biden about his son's well documented Russia, Ukraine, China corruption nor the released yesterday evidence proving Hillary, Obama and Biden initiated the Trump-Russia hoax. The next two debates moderated by full dedicated Marxists is just going to be worse. But, on the positive side, the Marxists can write in Chris Wallace to be their next president since the real debate on every issue was against Trump and Wallace. Also, I did appreciate that PDT was NOT going to put up with nor give one inch to ANY Marxist horse crap, and he certainly did not from either Wallace nor Biden.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: rsgonner 9/30/2020 8:39:06 AM (No. 557226)
What a tragedy to have to say that high school debates put last night's spectacle to shame. Wallace put his thumb on the scale for Biden, but couldn't control the situation from the get go. How about this: each side gets set time to answer the question, no interruptions. Then rebuttal. If one side interrupts, the "debate" stops for 5 minutes. If an interruption occurs again, that side loses 2 minutes of their time on the next question. The real loser from this show last nite: the American people.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: dolphin 9/30/2020 9:02:09 AM (No. 557246)
President Trump is so good at seeing opportunities, but he missed this one. If you are going into a hostile debate like that, make a list of the questions you would like to have asked and ask them and answer them. Get your message out. Essentially be your own moderator. Ignore the others in the room.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: felixcat 9/30/2020 9:10:41 AM (No. 557252)
Biden calling the President a clown and "will you shut up". Stay classy Joe. Be nice if some reporter actually asked Biden or his campaign if he can perform at this debate then why can't he hold actual news conferences and take any and all questions? I agree that PDJT took the bait too many times when standing back and letting Joe ramble on would have been more effective, but I think Joe's outright disrespect to the President really got under the President's skin.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Jethro bo 9/30/2020 9:12:00 AM (No. 557253)
Biden never explained any of his policies, just that they were gonna perform magic. He never endorsed law and order which was brilliant by Trump to push him for an endorsement. Trump didn't let Biden off on questions of Hunter's corruption like the Kneepads do. Biden told Trump to shut more than once which is not only rude but a command and power play of a bully. Wallace at least once interrupted Trump during his two minutes 'uninterrupted' to initiate a debate between Trump and himself. It was s stunning display of bias and I truly wonder if Wallace is on Biden's campaign payroll. Wallace asked Trump the typical 'gotcha' questions while severing up fat pitches to Biden. I agree it was a mess but clearly the deck was stacked against Trump and unlike McLame and Romney, Trump didn't roll over and wet himself. He fought back.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: rushie 9/30/2020 9:15:48 AM (No. 557257)
I loved it when Trump said to Wallace, I guess I’m gonna debate you huh? I was glad he punched back. Just sick of those lying Dems and their cohorts, in the media.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Zigrid 9/30/2020 9:16:50 AM (No. 557259)
My observation was... President Trump ended up debating both biden and Wallace...biden got through the debate still standing after 90 minutes....so the media sighed a sign of relief.... I was surprised biden showed up... obviously jacked up on medication and on overload with nonsense accusations scripted by his handlers...President Trump was Trump... he is America's champion...
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/30/2020 9:21:28 AM (No. 557263)
The second sentence of O'Neil's piece doesn't make any sense. What I saw was just the opposite. Wallace picked questions to damage Trump and Wallace would help lead Bite Me into his answers to the questions. A terrible night all around. Trump knew that Bite Me was high on a cocktail of meds and tried to break him in half. Bite Me's eyes looked frankly pretty weird and evil. He looked awful as a sundowner would at that hour of the way. The dilated and watery pupils said it all about his medical condition. What did Bite Me have under his right lapel that he fiddled with? Something to release doses of meds? While Trump got in some solid and passionate rebuttals, being in attack mode for 90 minutes thanks to Wallace's idiotic questions had limited Trump's ability to deliver knockout blows based questions of substance. Wallace spending 15 minutes on tax return gotcha questions, another 15 or 20 minutes on this fake racism/equality meme, and blowing another 20 minutes on useless questions related to the covid pandemic ruined the entire affair. But, Trump rightly called out Bite Me and the dim party for allowing the cities to burn from the rioting and the urban decay that the dims have wrought on America. Trump could have put down the knives long enough to better describe the evil blm/antifa attacks at the hands of the dim party, its donors, and the globalists. While the debate was chaotic to be sure, Bite Me lost his chance with his lefty bully tactics. Wallace lost control early and should apologize to the public for a very shoddy performance. And shame on him for only scolding Trump a number of times to not interrupt while not saying a peep to Bite Me. Possible to improve the debate format? #10 comments that after each of them finishes speaking, his mic should be turned off while the other speaks. I would add that having the split screen of one guy sneering and snorting at the other guy while the first guy is speaking should stop. As I said yesterday, there are much better moderators out there who can ask questions that allows the candidates to express their visions rather than being in damage control that only benefits msm ratings. Next time try Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, El Rushbo, or Tucker Carlson.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: EAJ123 9/30/2020 9:22:23 AM (No. 557265)
Fox is now completely in the tank. Watching Wallace is tantamount to torture. And it's getting worse. Starting with Martha and her awful nails on the blackboard voice, her stupidity, her lack of any interest whatsoever in anything that does't include her is almost as bad as Ainsley on Fox and Friends with her perfected show 'em you really are as dumb as a rock routine. We're done watching Fox for the most part and all the time when the list of "experts' are on their tainted panels-- all the guests gathered for the debate last night were in full agreement. NO ONE can stand teeny weenie Wallace trying to be daddy and last night was a low even for him. Somewhere the butch haircut babe got in her vitriol. Enough. Bumper stickers that say TurnOff Fox are showing up. Saw two in the Publix parking lot. Fox? Last night? Wallace? Turn off Fox.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: justjoe1237 9/30/2020 9:31:56 AM (No. 557271)
Perfect example of that crude expression, "a s*** show." Almost right out of the gate, Wallace's bias was clear and Trump had to say, "I guess I'm debating you, not him." Unfortunately, Trump let it get under his skin that he was facing two opponents, and he lost his composure. Biden was sputtering, stammering, straining, and Wallace carried him along like a wounded comrade. It was not a debate. It was more like a wrestling tag team against Trump. He had to fight Wallace, he had to fight Biden, and often he had to fight both Wallace and Biden at the same time. I wonder if Wallace's voice bothered Trump? That might explain why he often lost his cool. I think that whiney, sissy voice might have made Trump want to walk over and smack him upside the head, so he constantly had to resist the urge. It was an all around national embarrassment, and I will be happy if there are no more repeats. Our beleaguered nation has enough to deal with-- our cities are burning, our economy has been almost destroyed by a needless lockdown in a "pandemic" that is 90% fraud, the traitors who tried to pull off a coup against a duly elected president are skating free, raking in money from books and speeches while the AG sits around with his thumbs ... uh... I'll leave it there. We need no more spectacles on the world stage like last night's. I probably should have gone with my original idea for a post on the debate: Uncle Sam wept.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: donnaclaire 9/30/2020 9:44:33 AM (No. 557287)
The major 'dud' in this debate was Wallace. Was looking forward to watching the entire debate, but checked out less than halfway through it. It wasn't worth my time or the frustration trying to understand and decipher what the three of them were saying - all at the same time. Not good for the BP either.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: gop_guys 9/30/2020 9:50:43 AM (No. 557296)
I know this much; we are at war with the radical Dems & socialism! This is not tiddly winks. Trump fights back. We all knew the insufferable lead media swamp rat (Wallace) would attempt to damage the President. Remember, it is us that the President fights for! Lots of Monday morning quarter backing here. Our future is at stake against the dark side & Trump knows it! Fight on Sir!
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Reply 35 - Posted by: ARKfamily 9/30/2020 9:51:52 AM (No. 557300)
Yeah, well #15, you are right about being slammed and those are your words not mine. I did not watch the debate for two reasons. Joe Biden and Chris Wallace. I didn't think President Trump would get a fair chance at all and it sounds like my reasoning was accurate for not watching. President Trump has been microscopically picked apart since he took office and it is my firm belief that releasing his tax returns didn't put him in a very good mood. So all of you who are negatively commenting about Donald Trump, could you do better? If in 2012, Mitt Romney had told Barack Obama (as President of the USA) to shut up, he would have been castigated. It seems that anything goes with the Democrats and liberals. They can dish out whatever they want and the goal post keeps getting moved to accommodate their despicable behavior. I have had it and the same goes with all of the negative responses here. I find all of you disappointing.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: bigfatslob 9/30/2020 9:59:11 AM (No. 557304)
The crapwesel Chris Wallace from Fox was an obnoxious loser in the debate. Joe Biden the sparring boxer without taking breaks is quite the jabber but I'll bet his Depends were full when he entered the locker room. Jill Biden clean up on aisle Number One. I quit watch a third of the way when Wallace became the third debater in the loud bantering taking place on stage. I hope the next two shouting matches are canceled that was too embarrassing to watch.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Kate318 9/30/2020 10:05:29 AM (No. 557316)
Donald Trump was spied on before he took office; had a soft coup to remove him from office that continues to this day, and isn’t so soft anymore; was impeached for the crimes the democrats committed; was handed a “pandemic” specifically designed for full opposition political advantage; has been betrayed by people on his own team; and has been lied about, maligned and savaged by all sides, including our own. He has few friends, and even less supporters, save his family and a majority of the American people. Far be it from me to pronounce sentence on him because he wasn’t “dignified and presidential.” Biden and Wallace are lucky the man didn’t come out with a flamethrower and burn them to a cinder. I would have.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Lawsy0 9/30/2020 10:18:40 AM (No. 557325)
President Trump remarked early on that he was debating Chris as well as Joe. We knew it would be an unfair pile-on. If I had paid to watch it, I would be demanding my money back because it was not as advertised. Oh. Yeah, it was.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: TCloud 9/30/2020 10:25:26 AM (No. 557331)
TRUMP did not have to really try too hard to drop two Lefties. Next Round two baby!
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Arby 9/30/2020 10:31:53 AM (No. 557336)
Pathetic. Wallace was, perhaps, the worst monitor ever. The questions were too general; they left no structured vehicle for rebuttal. They encouraged the unwatchable screamfest. It doesn't appear that Wallace prepared at all and he lost control almost immediately. As Dan Bongino pointed out, this debate probably hurt Biden with the leftist base because he was forced to admit that he didn't support the green new deal, medicare for all and some of the other socialist fantasies. When he said that he'd shut down the economy again if the experts told him to I hope the independent voters were listening carefully. Ditto on his refusal to talk about stacking the court and jettisoning the filibuster rule. JB's soppy emotional appeals, replete with bleeding heart boilerplate, were disgusting, an insult to the audience's intelligence. Earth to Joe: that 'it's all about your family' crappola will not move Xi or Putin. The flat-out denials of Hunter's corrupt dealings should have been probed by CW. When Trump pointed out JB's most recent lie about his education at Delaware State, CW should have probed. Biden has lied through his teeth about his education (again and again and again) and when Trump called him on it he just smirked. CW also let that Charlottesville canard glide through without question. Note that Katie Pavelich was so incensed at it that she devoted most of her time slot to deflating it summarily.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/30/2020 10:35:57 AM (No. 557340)
It was the most boring set anyone could have designed. It was better to turn off the video and just listen to the debate.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Are You Serious 9/30/2020 10:41:24 AM (No. 557347)
These debates are not necessary. Trump has been president for 4 years; Biden has roamed the halls of power for 4 decades; both have a records to run on.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:47:58 AM (No. 557355)
It was a hot mess. Terrible moderator Wallace had no trouble disciplining the sitting President of the United States, but tiptoed around and protected the former vice president. His constantly calling him “Vice President” was deliberate. It was a sickening exercise that achieved nothing but a bad photo of PDJT which is all over the internet, trying to make him look like a wild man, and a lot of clickbait “quotes”… I hope Biden decides he doesn’t want to do this again. It did nothing for the President except show how unfairly he continues to be treated, and that may be something too subtle for the dumb voters (and yes, there are great numbers) to pick up on.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:50:59 AM (No. 557358)
Re #11, commented on that last night after the debate was over. Biden was constantly studying something on the top of his lectern as he was preparing to answer questions. And he waved a pen around. What was that all about? Never seen a debater with a pen… The fix was in.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:55:11 AM (No. 557363)
Did you hear Biden say that all responders to 911 calls should be accompanied by a (he stumbled here) psychologist/psychiatrist?
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Reply 46 - Posted by: bighambone 9/30/2020 11:08:07 AM (No. 557377)
President Trump had an absolute valid reason not to respect both Barack Obama and Joseph Biden, as it is clear now that they attempted to perpetrate an anti-American and unlawful coup against Trump and his Administration. Especially Biden who brought up and suggested investigating and criminally prosecuting General Flynn for violating the Logan Act, an ancient law for which no American in the history of the USA has ever been successfully prosecuted. When Trump interrupted or talked he addressed issues of national interest that his administration was involved in for the last 47 months. Biden's ad hominem attacks on Trump calling the President of the USA a clown, a fool, a lyer, and someone who did not know what he is talking about or doing were really gutter class comments and gave off really bad vibes to the world. While Trump interrupted, he did not make and ad hominem attacks on Biden. When Trump brought up obvious Biden family corruption involving Biden's son Hunter and Biden's two brothers, Biden tried to scramble the matter by bringing up his other son, Beau, as he always does to gain sympathy, who spent time in the Delaware National Guard in Iraq, years before he died of cancer. When you look at that history, it really is not about Hunter, but is all about Joseph Biden and the way he operated as Vice-President to be a corrupt financial "Rainmaker" involving foreign entities and individuals for members of the Biden family. Bottom line, when Trump says that he is going to do something related to his Presidential duties it is a sure thing that he will do it, that is if in DC it is politically possible, and nobody can say that Trump has not been the most transparent President of the modern era as he answers all questions made to him almost everyday. In Biden's case his refusal to answer important questions about him packing the Supreme Court, or who he would nominate to Supreme Court seats show that Biden intends to support really left wing Democrat policies and programs that are not popular with the segments of the US population that really make the country go. Biden's non-answers are reminiscent of when the Democrats were asked about Obamacare before it was passed when they said you have to vote for the Obamacare bill to see what's in it. Biden also showed his true colors when he refused to deny his support for the Antifa and the violent aspects of the Black Lives Matter movements who have been rioting, burning, and looting in the big Democrat cities, in that respect Biden would not even admit that Antifa as a violent domestic terrorist organization exists and tried to case false blame for all that destruction on some "White Supremacist" group. Biden also brought up the old Democrat canard that Trump supported "White Supremacists" in Charlottesville, VA, three years ago, which is a lie, as when Trump made his comment about what was going on in Charlottesburg he was talking about people on both sides of the issue or removing Confederate statues and not violent activity or who was right or wrong. Biden and his leftist operatives and running a very dishonest campaign and Trump was right to call Biden out on that.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: cold porridge 9/30/2020 11:36:11 AM (No. 557400)
Why was Biden not making the doddering gaffes he usually does? Either it has been an act in case he gets prosecuted or he needs to be on the drugs he was on last night. I think it has been an act for months and probably the only reason he has run in the campaign was to avoid investigation and prosecution.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: Citoyen 9/30/2020 11:40:08 AM (No. 557406)
Do I believe Tyler O’Neil or my own lying ears?Trump’s performance was a disaster. He interrupted Biden obnoxiously without ever landing a punch. For reasons I’ll never comprehend he didn’t calmly lay out for the American public his stupendous accomplishments on the economy and how Biden and his party would destroy the recovery. Same goes for Trump’s response to the Chinese Flu. There were several times Old Joe was on the verge of wandering into incoherence but was silenced by Trump interrupting him. Trump made a horrible mistake going after Hunter Biden without saying coherently why the public should care. What uniformed viewers heard was an attack on his opponent’s son. I’m sure the educated suburban women loved it. I was so upset by this fiasco I couldn’t sleep. I hope there are two more debates and that Trump reverts back to the charming combatant he was last time around. Next time don’t listen to the Sean Hannity types who want a wrestling match where their old scores are settled at the expense of educating Americans why Trump must win in November.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: MMC 9/30/2020 11:41:24 AM (No. 557408)
Here is the more important question- who is out campaigning or working today? Did they put a lid on plugs early today? The last month of a campaign is a non stop fever pitch of work- and Biden won’t emerge from his basement.. Are excited Democrat’s eager to vote for Biden? Will they rush to vote? Or are they ‘counting’ on ballot harvesting to win the day? So many ways to steal an election..
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Reply 50 - Posted by: NotaBene 9/30/2020 12:06:59 PM (No. 557437)
Biden will join Paris Climate Agreement, weatherize 4 million buildings, stop coal plants, and call it a new economy. Called our great president a clown. The vote by mail scam will continue and Marxists will steal the election for the Deep State.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: clipped wings 9/30/2020 1:52:53 PM (No. 557521)
#11, Biden was also wired. He was listening to a voice from offstage. At one point he nodded his agreement.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: FormerDem 9/30/2020 2:39:33 PM (No. 557559)
On Twitter I heard Biden was on Adderall, not amphetamines. (who knows)
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Philipsonh 9/30/2020 2:42:22 PM (No. 557561)
I caught a snippet on the radio this morning. I swear I thought that Biden said that the Obama Administration moved jobs to China so the USA could important the product they made there. I may have been hallucinating. That would be like dropping an iron on your bare foot so you could listen to the ambulance whistle .
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Reply 54 - Posted by: Omen55 9/30/2020 4:14:59 PM (No. 557636)
When it comes to Trump I'll restate the words of Lincoln regarding Grant. "I can not spare that man. He fights!" Trump 2020
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Reply 55 - Posted by: smooz 9/30/2020 5:14:26 PM (No. 557671)
Good article. Pretty balanced.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 9/30/2020 6:46:36 PM (No. 557756)
Guess I am going to have to wait until Election Day for President Trump to deliver the knockout blow to Biden. The so-called debate last night was a disappointment----I thought it was like listening to the sound of spinning wheels stuck in a ditch in the middle of nowhere.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: justjoe1237 9/30/2020 7:33:53 PM (No. 557795)
#52, Adderall contains amphetamine.
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Reply 58 - Posted by: XCenturion 10/1/2020 2:27:30 AM (No. 558035)
Some people have labeled Chris Wallace as a "trusted journalist". After his failed attempt last night at moderating the Presidential debate his title should now be "dishonest Democrat hack." Wallace would be better off working for CNN or MSNBC rather than attempting to portray himself as an honest journalist on what used to be a reputable news channel like FOX. Time to tune out FOX!
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‘Political propaganda’ or ‘essential public health messages’?
Government-sponsored food boxes include a letter from
Trump, and some Chicago food pantries are removing it.
24 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 5:15:11 AM Post Reply
Food pantries for months have relied on a government-sponsored food box program to serve a spike in needy families during the pandemic. But the latest batch of boxes includes an item some find unpalatable as the election nears: a letter signed by President Donald Trump. The letter, printed in both English and Spanish on White House letterhead, highlights the Farmers to Families Food Box program and includes general safety information for preventing COVID-19 transmission. It does not mention the Nov. 3 election, but some local food pantries say it’s inappropriate and plan to remove the letter before distributing the boxes to families.
Bush v. Gore Redux? 3 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 5:08:56 AM Post Reply
Amy Coney Barrett is President Donald Trump’s latest nominee for the Supreme Court, and the scramble is already underway to read the inner workings of her mind on everything from abortion to where she sits on the spectrum from originalism to the “living Constitution.” Thanks to Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court, however, the question that should be on the top of every senator’s list is not merely how Barrett construes the Constitution, but how she reads the plain text of statutes, period. Barrett herself agrees, writing in a law review article this year that a textualist — which is how she identifies herself — “hews closely to the rules
Reclaiming American History 2 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 5:05:15 AM Post Reply
Since The American Mind began nearly two years ago, we have consistently warned of the regime-level crisis caused by the corruption of the content of American education. The recent riots and the ongoing cultural revolution fomented by identity politics has helped prove our point. It is now clearer to Americans that if we do not change course, decades of anti-American propaganda and identitarian teaching in our schools will result in a fundamental overthrow of our system of government. Just two weeks ago the Trump administration hosted—to our great shock—the very first White House Conference on American History.
Wife of Boston Marathon hero
said Biden touched her in 'an
inappropriate and uncomfortable way'
37 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 4:59:39 AM Post Reply
The wife of a Massachusetts transit police officer who was injured in the manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombers accused Joe Biden of touching her inappropriately and making a suggestive comment in 2014. In two Facebook posts, one of which has since been deleted, Kim Donohue alleged that during a remembrance ceremony in Boston, a year after the April 2013 deadly bombing, then-Vice President Biden began "rubbing" her lower back. "Look at those eyes, where did you get those eyes?" Donohue wrote. "Anyone else as good looking as you in that family ... those eyes are mesmerizing, people must just do whatever you say."
Gun-Grabbing Grifter Mark Kelly Is
Yet Another Democrat in Bed
With the Chinese Communist Party
9 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 4:50:14 AM Post Reply
We are currently witnessing just how important having control of the United States Senate is, especially as the Democratic Party is in the midst of its lemming rush off of the socialist edge. Control of the Senate is up for grabs this year and one of the most pivotal races for it is happening here in my home state of Arizona. Republican Sen. Martha McSally is being challenged by Mark Kelly, a Democrat who is benefiting mostly from money pouring in from outside of Arizona. Kelly is a former astronaut and, of course, the husband of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who was a victim of a tragic mass shooting
Chris Wallace is a miserable debate moderator 14 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 4:04:32 AM Post Reply
Chris Wallace was always going to be a terrible choice as a moderator for any of the three presidential debates, let alone the first one, but good God, did he fulfill that destiny with flying colors. We knew it back in July when Wallace attempted to fact-check President Trump on the accurate claim that former Vice President Joe Biden was on the record committing to defunding police departments. Biden is, in fact, on record committing to that, and yet, Wallace pretended we hadn't heard it with our own ears. The Fox News anchor was supposed to show up and moderate a debate, with it having expressly been stated
Debate Recap: Trump Wins,
Biden Doesn't Faint,
Chris Wallace Goes Down Hard
58 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:29:07 AM Post Reply
President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden went head-to-head on Tuesday night, and moderator Chris Wallace got knocked out. Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden, but both candidates talked over him. Trump and Biden brought out the fisticuffs and both got in a few good hits. Biden stumbled but he did not come across as a bumbling fool. While Trump and Biden both went on the offensive, Trump got in more clear statements and Biden came across as shifty, especially on packing the Supreme Court.
A hot mess of a debate,
and a bad plan by Trump
9 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:26:37 AM Post Reply
A  hot mess does not make for a great debate. Or an interesting one or even an entertaining one. America was mistreated Tuesday. A highly anticipated showdown in a closely fought presidential election in a deeply divided country had the potential to be a clarifying moment. Instead, it was a sweaty, formless flop. Worse, it was annoying. Neither the candidates or moderator Chris Wallace acquitted themselves well. Joe Biden was sharp and coherent enough, though he relied heavily on notes in front of him.
Dismiss the case of Michael Flynn 14 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:23:21 AM Post Reply
When Michael Flynn heads to court for his final sentencing hearing today, a lifetime of respected national service will hang in the balance on what is said and done. I am not talking about Flynn but of Judge Emmet Sullivan. There is no issue over the dismissal of the charge of Flynn lying to federal investigators. The only issue is whether, just before an election, Sullivan will use the hearing as a forum for injudicious commentary. I have practiced law for years before Sullivan and praised him for his demeanor and record as a judge. He has served with distinction since 1994 in cases ranging from Guantanamo Bay
Boeing to move all 787 Dreamliner
production to South Carolina
25 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:21:06 AM Post Reply
Boeing Co. will set plans this week to consolidate 787 Dreamliner assembly in South Carolina, people familiar with the matter said, ending production of that jetliner in Washington state as the coronavirus pandemic saps demand for aircraft. The decision carries significant implications for the Seattle-area economy and Boeing’s unionized workforce around Puget Sound. It wasn’t clear over what period of time the consolidation would play out, or how many employees might be affected by the move. Boeing could announce the plans as soon as this week, some of the people familiar with the matter said.
Media call for upcoming debates
to be 'canceled,' urge Biden to
back out after first brawl with Trump
28 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:16:08 AM Post Reply
A tidal wave from the mainstream media is speculating whether the two remaining debates between President Trump and Joe Biden should even be held after their brutal first showdown Tuesday night in Cleveland. There appears to be a wide consensus about the messy and ugly nature of the first debate -- which was filled with interruptions and insults. Two more debated are scheduled for Oct. 15 and Oct. 22, with a vice presidential debate set for Oct. 7. During MSNBC's post-debate coverage, "ReidOut" host Joy Reid questioned her colleague Nicolle Wallace, who has worked on presidential campaigns in the past, if Biden should bother showing up to the next debate.
Democrats can't smear Amy Coney Barrett 12 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/29/2020 4:55:34 AM Post Reply
In the greatest showdown in the history of American politics, it’s Spartacus vs. the Colonialist! It will be a cage fight to the death. Only one gladiator will exit the ring. There will be just one survivor on the island in a sea of blood! Finally, some good news for American popcorn farmers. Best of all: everyone watching already knows who is going to win. SPOILER ALERT: It’s not Spartacus. The true victor will surely be the Notorious ACB — Amy Coney Barrett, in the black robe, wearing colonial garb.
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Debate Recap: Trump Wins,
Biden Doesn't Faint,
Chris Wallace Goes Down Hard
58 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 9/30/2020 3:29:07 AM Post Reply
President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden went head-to-head on Tuesday night, and moderator Chris Wallace got knocked out. Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden, but both candidates talked over him. Trump and Biden brought out the fisticuffs and both got in a few good hits. Biden stumbled but he did not come across as a bumbling fool. While Trump and Biden both went on the offensive, Trump got in more clear statements and Biden came across as shifty, especially on packing the Supreme Court.
Portland Group Plans
Naked Bike Ride To Protest
Amy Coney Barrett Nomination —
Masks Are Required
45 replies
Posted by ConservativeYogini 10/1/2020 2:37:26 PM Post Reply
If you get enough people riding naked on their bikes through the streets, then Ruth Bader Ginsburg magically comes back to life and deranged leftists don’t have to worry about Amy Coney Barrett being confirmed to the Supreme Court. Or so goes the logic of one Portland (duh, where else?) group, who is putting on a naked bike ride event to protest…. uhh…. something. Because it’s Portland.
The Trump debate decoded:
He won, and he won big
44 replies
Posted by Magnante 10/1/2020 5:10:08 AM Post Reply
With 24 hours having passed since the first presidential debate, it’s becoming clear that Trump won in a big way. It wasn’t an apparent victory, but it was a real one: He showed his base and ordinary Americans that he will always fight while forcing Biden to disavow both his hard-left base and the last of the old-fashioned Democrats who still support him Don’t pay too much attention to the pessimistic pundits. The worriers worried, the haters hated, the ambivalent were ambivalent, the cheerleaders cheered. Personality may not be destiny, but it determines post-debates reviews.
Breaking: Indications the
Government May Have All the
Data On All the Phones
Wiped by Weissmann’s
Special Counsel Gang
43 replies
Posted by ConservativeYogini 10/1/2020 12:45:10 AM Post Reply
Recently it was reported that creepy Andrew Weissmann, the kingpin behind the Mueller investigation, and a large group of Mueller gang members all destroyed the information on their phones after the Strzok and Page text messages were uncovered. Today a report has been uncovered where Weissmann reported on a ‘wiped’ Special Counsel phone that the government’s iPhones are backed up and no data will be lost.
Fox News’ John Roberts Loses Temper at
Critics of His ‘White Supremacist’ Questions
42 replies
Posted by Imright 10/1/2020 4:14:13 PM Post Reply
Fox News’ John Roberts lost his composure during a report on Fox News Thursday morning, attacking those on Twitter who criticized him for the way he asked White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany about the president’s stance on white supremacy. (Tweet/Video) “For all of you on Twitter who are hammering me for answering that — for asking that question, I don’t care! Because it’s a question that needs to be asked.”In the White House press briefing moments before, Roberts asked McEnany — three times — whether the president denounced white supremacy, and appeared not to accept yes for an answer.Roberts first asked “for a definitive and declarative statement,
‘I’m Just Sad’: Debate Was ‘A Terrible Missed
Opportunity,’ Chris Wallace Tells NYT
42 replies
Posted by Imright 10/1/2020 5:02:11 AM Post Reply
Fox News anchor Chris Wallace expressed regret on Wednesday after the chaotic nature of the presidential debate he moderated on Tuesday was met with fierce criticism.“I’m just sad with the way last night turned out,” Wallace said in a phone interview with The New York Times about the first square-off between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden. He further characterized the tense 90-minute back-and-forth as “a terrible missed opportunity.”Explaining how he “never never dreamt that it would go off the tracks the way it did,” Wallace also addressed the widespread criticism of his moderating.
Will this man dare silence Donald? C-SPAN
moderator Steve Scully will have to decide
whether to cut President’s mic as Commission
prepares to tell candidates to accept new
rules or not turn up - but Chris Wallace
says it won't stop Trump!
39 replies
Posted by Imright 10/1/2020 2:56:39 PM Post Reply
The next presidential debate may give moderator Steve Scully the ability to turn off Donald Trump's microphone but some fear that won't stop the president from interrupting and talking over Joe Biden like he did in their first meeting.The two candidates will face each other next on October 15 in Miami for a town-hall style debate moderated by the C-SPAN host. The rules of engagement will be different at that meeting, the Commission on Presidential Debates announced on Wednesday, in an attempt to curb the chaos from Tuesday night's debate, which was compared to a dumpster fire.
Wife of Boston Marathon hero
said Biden touched her in 'an
inappropriate and uncomfortable way'
37 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 10/1/2020 4:59:39 AM Post Reply
The wife of a Massachusetts transit police officer who was injured in the manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombers accused Joe Biden of touching her inappropriately and making a suggestive comment in 2014. In two Facebook posts, one of which has since been deleted, Kim Donohue alleged that during a remembrance ceremony in Boston, a year after the April 2013 deadly bombing, then-Vice President Biden began "rubbing" her lower back. "Look at those eyes, where did you get those eyes?" Donohue wrote. "Anyone else as good looking as you in that family ... those eyes are mesmerizing, people must just do whatever you say."
GOP pollster sees Trump-Biden debate as embarrassing, says it 'encouraged people not to vote' 37 replies
Posted by Moritz55 9/30/2020 11:14:32 AM Post Reply
Longtime Republican pollster Frank Luntz told CNBC on Wednesday that participants in his focus group were let down by the first debate between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden. "I have never had a session blow up where the participants were disappointed on both sides, where everyone was embarrassed and everyone was upset about what had happened," Luntz said on "Squawk Box," while agreeing with the participants' assessment.
Jake Tapper describes friend’s 6th-grade
daughter running out of room in tears over
Trump at debate
33 replies
Posted by Imright 9/30/2020 10:45:55 PM Post Reply
CNN proved that its post-debate analysis could be worse than the event itself as anchor Jake Tapper and other so-called journalists had an unprofessional meltdown on the air.The CNN hosts unloaded scathing criticism of President Donald Trump while providing cover for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Tuesday following the first 2020 presidential debate. The comments ranged from lies about the president’s remarks, melodramatic shock, profanity and even Tapper’s claim that a friend’s young daughter was so “appalled” by Trump that she ran to bed in tears. (Video) Tapper sparked a wave of mockery and backlash on social media after his on-air account of a 6th-grade girl who allegedly
American cyclist suspended by
team after pro-Trump comments
32 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 10/1/2020 9:55:40 AM Post Reply
GENEVA -- American cyclist Quinn Simmons was suspended by the Trek-Segafredo team on Thursday after posting antagonistic comments on social media in support of President Donald Trump. The 2019 junior road race world champion replied to a journalist from the Netherlands who had criticized Trump on Twitter. ''Regrettably, team rider Quinn Simmons made statements online that we feel are divisive, incendiary, and detrimental to the team, professional cycling, its fans, and the positive future we hope to help create for the sport,'' Trek-Segafredo said in a statement. ''(He) will not be racing for Trek-Segafredo until further notice.'' The 19-year-old rider Wednesday
Pope denies audience with Pompeo;
Vatican warns against playing politics over China
32 replies
Posted by PageTurner 10/1/2020 12:49:32 AM Post Reply
ROME - The Vatican said on Wednesday it had denied a request from Mike Pompeo for an audience with Pope Francis, and accused the Secretary of State of trying to drag the Catholic Church into the U.S. presidential election by denouncing its relations with China. The extraordinary remarks from the two top diplomatic officials at the Vatican came after Pompeo accused the Church in an article and a series of tweets this month of putting its “moral authority” at risk by renewing an agreement with China over the appointment of bishops.
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