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Debate Recap: Trump Wins,
Biden Doesn't Faint,
Chris Wallace Goes Down Hard

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Posted By: Pluperfect, 9/30/2020 3:29:07 AM

President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden went head-to-head on Tuesday night, and moderator Chris Wallace got knocked out. Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden, but both candidates talked over him. Trump and Biden brought out the fisticuffs and both got in a few good hits. Biden stumbled but he did not come across as a bumbling fool. While Trump and Biden both went on the offensive, Trump got in more clear statements and Biden came across as shifty, especially on packing the Supreme Court.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: F15 Gork 9/30/2020 3:48:24 AM (No. 557084)
As expected PDJT ended up debating both Plugs and Wallace. Debates 2 & 3 will likely be the same.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: MSUDoc 9/30/2020 3:53:26 AM (No. 557087)
From first paragraph: “ Wallace seemed to push left-wing talking points to help Trump and hurt Biden”....Huh?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 9/30/2020 5:49:04 AM (No. 557117)
#2. Apparently the authors editor died.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq 9/30/2020 5:50:54 AM (No. 557120)
Anyone expecting a non-partisan moderator can wait till Kingdom come. Wife watched; I slept. No surprises.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 9/30/2020 6:33:16 AM (No. 557144)
I got so frustrated that I turned it off! The constant interrupting kept me from hearing Biden's potential lies and gaffes. We might as well cancel future debates, and just listen to the person we plan to vote for, and assess what their position is on issues. If Trump says he will do something, he will. If Biden says something you like, it is just election tripe. I doubt if anyone changed their mind last night, because everyone is so set on these two very opposite choices. If you hate Trump because he is rude, you got what you wanted. If you love Trump because he is a fighter, you got what you wanted.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Texpub 9/30/2020 6:35:18 AM (No. 557146)
I agree with #1, but I'm not sure there will be 2 more debates.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 9/30/2020 6:35:19 AM (No. 557147)
Biden pumped full of amphetamines?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 9/30/2020 6:36:07 AM (No. 557148)
This was painful to watch. Trump won by truth-telling and calling Biden out on all of his failures and lies but he could not stop interrupting and repeating. The debate would have been better if he had let Biden simply hang himself instead of jumping on his every word outside of his allocated two minutes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 9/30/2020 6:57:51 AM (No. 557160)
I find it hard to really declare anyone a winner of this mess. Listening to the clips this morning, obviously Trump won on substance, but he was overly aggressive and with his non-stop jabbing he missed a few opportunities to deliver a knock out blow. Dementia Joe was his usual rude, mean, nasty self, and was overly vague and evasive.on most issues, merely attacking Trump instead of specifying out what he would do. And Wallace embarrassed himself, losing control of the situation early on and then effectively becoming a third debater. Truth be told, I bailed out about halfway through, switching over to the much more entertaining Chopped.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rinktum 9/30/2020 7:00:45 AM (No. 557162)
Big disappointment all around last night. The President should have just gone out there and spoken to the American people and left Biden to talk himself into trouble. A couple of times I thought Biden was not going to be able to reel himself in, but he managed to just in the nick of time. The medicinal cocktail worked pretty well for him. The animosity between the participants was evident. They cannot stand each other and it showed. Biden was name calling and Trump was interrupting when he should have just let Joe hang himself with his ramblings. Trump was in the catbird seat but he let a lot of opportunities get away. Hammering Hunter Biden was a mistake. One quick jab and let it go, but don’t keep grinding on it. The blame for much of the disaster lies at the feet of Chris Wallace. He asked bad questions. Was clearly biased and lost control of the debate. Two improvements would be to turn of the mic after the candidate stops speaking and bring back the buzzer. One more, never allow Chris Wallace to moderate a debate again. You want a real debate? Let Tucker Carlson moderate.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: OBX Pete 9/30/2020 7:09:41 AM (No. 557166)
I can say that Wallace lost the debate. He lost control from opening to close. Did ya'll noticed that Biden was looking down constantly and obviously reading from something on top of his pedestal?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: coldoc 9/30/2020 7:19:56 AM (No. 557172)
Chrissy was a cheap shot artist. Is he the best the dems can do?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Cooling Saucer 9/30/2020 7:24:32 AM (No. 557173)
A poster at Last Refuge gave a link to this: https://twitter.com/Media__Ferret/status/1311167917636059144 -- anyone see this? Is it hooey?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bpl40 9/30/2020 7:24:41 AM (No. 557174)
The rules and structure were unbalanced and therefore unfair. Enough time for Biden to get in his lies but not enough for PDT to debunk him. Joe said human activity was responsible for increase in hurricanes, floods and fires. This false and highly irresponsible. But not enough time left for Trump. Four major areas - economy, COVID, law & order, Climate and energy. Same story. Next debate Trump should use his allotted introduction and lay out these lies. Warning the audience he is going to do it again. All in all very frustrating
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Cherrybark 9/30/2020 7:32:01 AM (No. 557179)
The debate was a complete mess. I think Trump would have been better served by speaking more directly to the American people, reviewing his administrations accomplishments and plans. He could have put Wallace and Biden in their places with the serious Presidential bearing he is capable of rather than resort to repeated sniping and interruptions. This was expected to be the most watched political broadcast in history and I believe it was a lost opportunity. I won't watch another. I expected to be slammed for this opinion and was impressed to find others saying Trump missed the boat on this one.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: BaldGuy 9/30/2020 7:35:19 AM (No. 557183)
#5 and 15....thanks....everything I needed to know this morning....won't have to read too much more into it...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: birmingham 9/30/2020 7:52:33 AM (No. 557193)
Trump could have been much more effective last night by calmly stating his accomplishments and not being so peevish. I think he was trying to get Joe to really lose his temper but Joe-voters wouldn’t care if he did so it was a lost opportunity.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: rikkitikki 9/30/2020 7:55:51 AM (No. 557194)
Only hardball questions were to Trump: Biden got only slow pitches.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rumblehog 9/30/2020 8:03:13 AM (No. 557200)
We know Biden was on medication and that he had the question talking points printed out and on his podium to read from, so the real question from last night was - What brand of adult diapers was Biden wearing to avoid the 30 minute potty breaks?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: ilovedogs 9/30/2020 8:18:22 AM (No. 557210)
My only comfort is that Reagan did not do well in a debate once. That said, the moderator is supposed to be in charge. Wish just once a "regular" joe could moderate.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: sadc 9/30/2020 8:21:10 AM (No. 557213)
Yes, #2, I think this first paragraph is backwards. The entire format did not allow for civility. Wallace should have modified it when it was going off the rails. Allow both to speak uninterrupted and then rebuttal after someone wanted to comment on anything the opponent said that was not true or needed clarification. Pushing forward to cover all of the topics made no sense. When Biden refused to answer packing the court and ending the filibuster, Wallace didn't even push him to answer or question Biden's response to just vote for him and then you will see.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LesUNo 9/30/2020 8:23:30 AM (No. 557215)
America lost. Wallace was a disaster. Trump doesn’t know when to shut up. Biden was a medicated and arrogant mess trying to read his NOTES. Turned it off at 10 pm. That was too painful to watch.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: gone2pot 9/30/2020 8:27:11 AM (No. 557217)
Watched the whole thing. Biden AND Wallace started the interruption game against Trump and the president just did what he always does and fought back and interrupted Biden. Then it was a non-stop interruption-fest against Trump and Wallace-Biden. Wallace NEVER allowed Trump to make his points and tried to stop him every single time. Trump had to overcome the false premise on EVERY issue all night. So many missed opportunities and there were five distinct opportunities Trump missed to let Joe go full frontal dementia but Trump interrupted and wouldn't allow Biden go into orbit over Ganymede. It turned into a food fight. I went into blood shooting out of my eyes anger when Wallace asked about the illegal gotten tax information yet asked nothing from Biden about his son's well documented Russia, Ukraine, China corruption nor the released yesterday evidence proving Hillary, Obama and Biden initiated the Trump-Russia hoax. The next two debates moderated by full dedicated Marxists is just going to be worse. But, on the positive side, the Marxists can write in Chris Wallace to be their next president since the real debate on every issue was against Trump and Wallace. Also, I did appreciate that PDT was NOT going to put up with nor give one inch to ANY Marxist horse crap, and he certainly did not from either Wallace nor Biden.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: rsgonner 9/30/2020 8:39:06 AM (No. 557226)
What a tragedy to have to say that high school debates put last night's spectacle to shame. Wallace put his thumb on the scale for Biden, but couldn't control the situation from the get go. How about this: each side gets set time to answer the question, no interruptions. Then rebuttal. If one side interrupts, the "debate" stops for 5 minutes. If an interruption occurs again, that side loses 2 minutes of their time on the next question. The real loser from this show last nite: the American people.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: dolphin 9/30/2020 9:02:09 AM (No. 557246)
President Trump is so good at seeing opportunities, but he missed this one. If you are going into a hostile debate like that, make a list of the questions you would like to have asked and ask them and answer them. Get your message out. Essentially be your own moderator. Ignore the others in the room.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: felixcat 9/30/2020 9:10:41 AM (No. 557252)
Biden calling the President a clown and "will you shut up". Stay classy Joe. Be nice if some reporter actually asked Biden or his campaign if he can perform at this debate then why can't he hold actual news conferences and take any and all questions? I agree that PDJT took the bait too many times when standing back and letting Joe ramble on would have been more effective, but I think Joe's outright disrespect to the President really got under the President's skin.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Jethro bo 9/30/2020 9:12:00 AM (No. 557253)
Biden never explained any of his policies, just that they were gonna perform magic. He never endorsed law and order which was brilliant by Trump to push him for an endorsement. Trump didn't let Biden off on questions of Hunter's corruption like the Kneepads do. Biden told Trump to shut more than once which is not only rude but a command and power play of a bully. Wallace at least once interrupted Trump during his two minutes 'uninterrupted' to initiate a debate between Trump and himself. It was s stunning display of bias and I truly wonder if Wallace is on Biden's campaign payroll. Wallace asked Trump the typical 'gotcha' questions while severing up fat pitches to Biden. I agree it was a mess but clearly the deck was stacked against Trump and unlike McLame and Romney, Trump didn't roll over and wet himself. He fought back.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: rushie 9/30/2020 9:15:48 AM (No. 557257)
I loved it when Trump said to Wallace, I guess I’m gonna debate you huh? I was glad he punched back. Just sick of those lying Dems and their cohorts, in the media.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Zigrid 9/30/2020 9:16:50 AM (No. 557259)
My observation was... President Trump ended up debating both biden and Wallace...biden got through the debate still standing after 90 minutes....so the media sighed a sign of relief.... I was surprised biden showed up... obviously jacked up on medication and on overload with nonsense accusations scripted by his handlers...President Trump was Trump... he is America's champion...
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/30/2020 9:21:28 AM (No. 557263)
The second sentence of O'Neil's piece doesn't make any sense. What I saw was just the opposite. Wallace picked questions to damage Trump and Wallace would help lead Bite Me into his answers to the questions. A terrible night all around. Trump knew that Bite Me was high on a cocktail of meds and tried to break him in half. Bite Me's eyes looked frankly pretty weird and evil. He looked awful as a sundowner would at that hour of the way. The dilated and watery pupils said it all about his medical condition. What did Bite Me have under his right lapel that he fiddled with? Something to release doses of meds? While Trump got in some solid and passionate rebuttals, being in attack mode for 90 minutes thanks to Wallace's idiotic questions had limited Trump's ability to deliver knockout blows based questions of substance. Wallace spending 15 minutes on tax return gotcha questions, another 15 or 20 minutes on this fake racism/equality meme, and blowing another 20 minutes on useless questions related to the covid pandemic ruined the entire affair. But, Trump rightly called out Bite Me and the dim party for allowing the cities to burn from the rioting and the urban decay that the dims have wrought on America. Trump could have put down the knives long enough to better describe the evil blm/antifa attacks at the hands of the dim party, its donors, and the globalists. While the debate was chaotic to be sure, Bite Me lost his chance with his lefty bully tactics. Wallace lost control early and should apologize to the public for a very shoddy performance. And shame on him for only scolding Trump a number of times to not interrupt while not saying a peep to Bite Me. Possible to improve the debate format? #10 comments that after each of them finishes speaking, his mic should be turned off while the other speaks. I would add that having the split screen of one guy sneering and snorting at the other guy while the first guy is speaking should stop. As I said yesterday, there are much better moderators out there who can ask questions that allows the candidates to express their visions rather than being in damage control that only benefits msm ratings. Next time try Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, El Rushbo, or Tucker Carlson.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: EAJ123 9/30/2020 9:22:23 AM (No. 557265)
Fox is now completely in the tank. Watching Wallace is tantamount to torture. And it's getting worse. Starting with Martha and her awful nails on the blackboard voice, her stupidity, her lack of any interest whatsoever in anything that does't include her is almost as bad as Ainsley on Fox and Friends with her perfected show 'em you really are as dumb as a rock routine. We're done watching Fox for the most part and all the time when the list of "experts' are on their tainted panels-- all the guests gathered for the debate last night were in full agreement. NO ONE can stand teeny weenie Wallace trying to be daddy and last night was a low even for him. Somewhere the butch haircut babe got in her vitriol. Enough. Bumper stickers that say TurnOff Fox are showing up. Saw two in the Publix parking lot. Fox? Last night? Wallace? Turn off Fox.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: justjoe1237 9/30/2020 9:31:56 AM (No. 557271)
Perfect example of that crude expression, "a s*** show." Almost right out of the gate, Wallace's bias was clear and Trump had to say, "I guess I'm debating you, not him." Unfortunately, Trump let it get under his skin that he was facing two opponents, and he lost his composure. Biden was sputtering, stammering, straining, and Wallace carried him along like a wounded comrade. It was not a debate. It was more like a wrestling tag team against Trump. He had to fight Wallace, he had to fight Biden, and often he had to fight both Wallace and Biden at the same time. I wonder if Wallace's voice bothered Trump? That might explain why he often lost his cool. I think that whiney, sissy voice might have made Trump want to walk over and smack him upside the head, so he constantly had to resist the urge. It was an all around national embarrassment, and I will be happy if there are no more repeats. Our beleaguered nation has enough to deal with-- our cities are burning, our economy has been almost destroyed by a needless lockdown in a "pandemic" that is 90% fraud, the traitors who tried to pull off a coup against a duly elected president are skating free, raking in money from books and speeches while the AG sits around with his thumbs ... uh... I'll leave it there. We need no more spectacles on the world stage like last night's. I probably should have gone with my original idea for a post on the debate: Uncle Sam wept.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: donnaclaire 9/30/2020 9:44:33 AM (No. 557287)
The major 'dud' in this debate was Wallace. Was looking forward to watching the entire debate, but checked out less than halfway through it. It wasn't worth my time or the frustration trying to understand and decipher what the three of them were saying - all at the same time. Not good for the BP either.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: gop_guys 9/30/2020 9:50:43 AM (No. 557296)
I know this much; we are at war with the radical Dems & socialism! This is not tiddly winks. Trump fights back. We all knew the insufferable lead media swamp rat (Wallace) would attempt to damage the President. Remember, it is us that the President fights for! Lots of Monday morning quarter backing here. Our future is at stake against the dark side & Trump knows it! Fight on Sir!
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Reply 35 - Posted by: ARKfamily 9/30/2020 9:51:52 AM (No. 557300)
Yeah, well #15, you are right about being slammed and those are your words not mine. I did not watch the debate for two reasons. Joe Biden and Chris Wallace. I didn't think President Trump would get a fair chance at all and it sounds like my reasoning was accurate for not watching. President Trump has been microscopically picked apart since he took office and it is my firm belief that releasing his tax returns didn't put him in a very good mood. So all of you who are negatively commenting about Donald Trump, could you do better? If in 2012, Mitt Romney had told Barack Obama (as President of the USA) to shut up, he would have been castigated. It seems that anything goes with the Democrats and liberals. They can dish out whatever they want and the goal post keeps getting moved to accommodate their despicable behavior. I have had it and the same goes with all of the negative responses here. I find all of you disappointing.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: bigfatslob 9/30/2020 9:59:11 AM (No. 557304)
The crapwesel Chris Wallace from Fox was an obnoxious loser in the debate. Joe Biden the sparring boxer without taking breaks is quite the jabber but I'll bet his Depends were full when he entered the locker room. Jill Biden clean up on aisle Number One. I quit watch a third of the way when Wallace became the third debater in the loud bantering taking place on stage. I hope the next two shouting matches are canceled that was too embarrassing to watch.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: Kate318 9/30/2020 10:05:29 AM (No. 557316)
Donald Trump was spied on before he took office; had a soft coup to remove him from office that continues to this day, and isn’t so soft anymore; was impeached for the crimes the democrats committed; was handed a “pandemic” specifically designed for full opposition political advantage; has been betrayed by people on his own team; and has been lied about, maligned and savaged by all sides, including our own. He has few friends, and even less supporters, save his family and a majority of the American people. Far be it from me to pronounce sentence on him because he wasn’t “dignified and presidential.” Biden and Wallace are lucky the man didn’t come out with a flamethrower and burn them to a cinder. I would have.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Lawsy0 9/30/2020 10:18:40 AM (No. 557325)
President Trump remarked early on that he was debating Chris as well as Joe. We knew it would be an unfair pile-on. If I had paid to watch it, I would be demanding my money back because it was not as advertised. Oh. Yeah, it was.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: TCloud 9/30/2020 10:25:26 AM (No. 557331)
TRUMP did not have to really try too hard to drop two Lefties. Next Round two baby!
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Arby 9/30/2020 10:31:53 AM (No. 557336)
Pathetic. Wallace was, perhaps, the worst monitor ever. The questions were too general; they left no structured vehicle for rebuttal. They encouraged the unwatchable screamfest. It doesn't appear that Wallace prepared at all and he lost control almost immediately. As Dan Bongino pointed out, this debate probably hurt Biden with the leftist base because he was forced to admit that he didn't support the green new deal, medicare for all and some of the other socialist fantasies. When he said that he'd shut down the economy again if the experts told him to I hope the independent voters were listening carefully. Ditto on his refusal to talk about stacking the court and jettisoning the filibuster rule. JB's soppy emotional appeals, replete with bleeding heart boilerplate, were disgusting, an insult to the audience's intelligence. Earth to Joe: that 'it's all about your family' crappola will not move Xi or Putin. The flat-out denials of Hunter's corrupt dealings should have been probed by CW. When Trump pointed out JB's most recent lie about his education at Delaware State, CW should have probed. Biden has lied through his teeth about his education (again and again and again) and when Trump called him on it he just smirked. CW also let that Charlottesville canard glide through without question. Note that Katie Pavelich was so incensed at it that she devoted most of her time slot to deflating it summarily.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/30/2020 10:35:57 AM (No. 557340)
It was the most boring set anyone could have designed. It was better to turn off the video and just listen to the debate.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Are You Serious 9/30/2020 10:41:24 AM (No. 557347)
These debates are not necessary. Trump has been president for 4 years; Biden has roamed the halls of power for 4 decades; both have a records to run on.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:47:58 AM (No. 557355)
It was a hot mess. Terrible moderator Wallace had no trouble disciplining the sitting President of the United States, but tiptoed around and protected the former vice president. His constantly calling him “Vice President” was deliberate. It was a sickening exercise that achieved nothing but a bad photo of PDJT which is all over the internet, trying to make him look like a wild man, and a lot of clickbait “quotes”… I hope Biden decides he doesn’t want to do this again. It did nothing for the President except show how unfairly he continues to be treated, and that may be something too subtle for the dumb voters (and yes, there are great numbers) to pick up on.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:50:59 AM (No. 557358)
Re #11, commented on that last night after the debate was over. Biden was constantly studying something on the top of his lectern as he was preparing to answer questions. And he waved a pen around. What was that all about? Never seen a debater with a pen… The fix was in.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: earlybird 9/30/2020 10:55:11 AM (No. 557363)
Did you hear Biden say that all responders to 911 calls should be accompanied by a (he stumbled here) psychologist/psychiatrist?
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Reply 46 - Posted by: bighambone 9/30/2020 11:08:07 AM (No. 557377)
President Trump had an absolute valid reason not to respect both Barack Obama and Joseph Biden, as it is clear now that they attempted to perpetrate an anti-American and unlawful coup against Trump and his Administration. Especially Biden who brought up and suggested investigating and criminally prosecuting General Flynn for violating the Logan Act, an ancient law for which no American in the history of the USA has ever been successfully prosecuted. When Trump interrupted or talked he addressed issues of national interest that his administration was involved in for the last 47 months. Biden's ad hominem attacks on Trump calling the President of the USA a clown, a fool, a lyer, and someone who did not know what he is talking about or doing were really gutter class comments and gave off really bad vibes to the world. While Trump interrupted, he did not make and ad hominem attacks on Biden. When Trump brought up obvious Biden family corruption involving Biden's son Hunter and Biden's two brothers, Biden tried to scramble the matter by bringing up his other son, Beau, as he always does to gain sympathy, who spent time in the Delaware National Guard in Iraq, years before he died of cancer. When you look at that history, it really is not about Hunter, but is all about Joseph Biden and the way he operated as Vice-President to be a corrupt financial "Rainmaker" involving foreign entities and individuals for members of the Biden family. Bottom line, when Trump says that he is going to do something related to his Presidential duties it is a sure thing that he will do it, that is if in DC it is politically possible, and nobody can say that Trump has not been the most transparent President of the modern era as he answers all questions made to him almost everyday. In Biden's case his refusal to answer important questions about him packing the Supreme Court, or who he would nominate to Supreme Court seats show that Biden intends to support really left wing Democrat policies and programs that are not popular with the segments of the US population that really make the country go. Biden's non-answers are reminiscent of when the Democrats were asked about Obamacare before it was passed when they said you have to vote for the Obamacare bill to see what's in it. Biden also showed his true colors when he refused to deny his support for the Antifa and the violent aspects of the Black Lives Matter movements who have been rioting, burning, and looting in the big Democrat cities, in that respect Biden would not even admit that Antifa as a violent domestic terrorist organization exists and tried to case false blame for all that destruction on some "White Supremacist" group. Biden also brought up the old Democrat canard that Trump supported "White Supremacists" in Charlottesville, VA, three years ago, which is a lie, as when Trump made his comment about what was going on in Charlottesburg he was talking about people on both sides of the issue or removing Confederate statues and not violent activity or who was right or wrong. Biden and his leftist operatives and running a very dishonest campaign and Trump was right to call Biden out on that.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: cold porridge 9/30/2020 11:36:11 AM (No. 557400)
Why was Biden not making the doddering gaffes he usually does? Either it has been an act in case he gets prosecuted or he needs to be on the drugs he was on last night. I think it has been an act for months and probably the only reason he has run in the campaign was to avoid investigation and prosecution.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: Citoyen 9/30/2020 11:40:08 AM (No. 557406)
Do I believe Tyler O’Neil or my own lying ears?Trump’s performance was a disaster. He interrupted Biden obnoxiously without ever landing a punch. For reasons I’ll never comprehend he didn’t calmly lay out for the American public his stupendous accomplishments on the economy and how Biden and his party would destroy the recovery. Same goes for Trump’s response to the Chinese Flu. There were several times Old Joe was on the verge of wandering into incoherence but was silenced by Trump interrupting him. Trump made a horrible mistake going after Hunter Biden without saying coherently why the public should care. What uniformed viewers heard was an attack on his opponent’s son. I’m sure the educated suburban women loved it. I was so upset by this fiasco I couldn’t sleep. I hope there are two more debates and that Trump reverts back to the charming combatant he was last time around. Next time don’t listen to the Sean Hannity types who want a wrestling match where their old scores are settled at the expense of educating Americans why Trump must win in November.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: MMC 9/30/2020 11:41:24 AM (No. 557408)
Here is the more important question- who is out campaigning or working today? Did they put a lid on plugs early today? The last month of a campaign is a non stop fever pitch of work- and Biden won’t emerge from his basement.. Are excited Democrat’s eager to vote for Biden? Will they rush to vote? Or are they ‘counting’ on ballot harvesting to win the day? So many ways to steal an election..
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Reply 50 - Posted by: NotaBene 9/30/2020 12:06:59 PM (No. 557437)
Biden will join Paris Climate Agreement, weatherize 4 million buildings, stop coal plants, and call it a new economy. Called our great president a clown. The vote by mail scam will continue and Marxists will steal the election for the Deep State.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: clipped wings 9/30/2020 1:52:53 PM (No. 557521)
#11, Biden was also wired. He was listening to a voice from offstage. At one point he nodded his agreement.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: FormerDem 9/30/2020 2:39:33 PM (No. 557559)
On Twitter I heard Biden was on Adderall, not amphetamines. (who knows)
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Philipsonh 9/30/2020 2:42:22 PM (No. 557561)
I caught a snippet on the radio this morning. I swear I thought that Biden said that the Obama Administration moved jobs to China so the USA could important the product they made there. I may have been hallucinating. That would be like dropping an iron on your bare foot so you could listen to the ambulance whistle .
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Reply 54 - Posted by: Omen55 9/30/2020 4:14:59 PM (No. 557636)
When it comes to Trump I'll restate the words of Lincoln regarding Grant. "I can not spare that man. He fights!" Trump 2020
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Reply 55 - Posted by: smooz 9/30/2020 5:14:26 PM (No. 557671)
Good article. Pretty balanced.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 9/30/2020 6:46:36 PM (No. 557756)
Guess I am going to have to wait until Election Day for President Trump to deliver the knockout blow to Biden. The so-called debate last night was a disappointment----I thought it was like listening to the sound of spinning wheels stuck in a ditch in the middle of nowhere.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: justjoe1237 9/30/2020 7:33:53 PM (No. 557795)
#52, Adderall contains amphetamine.
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Reply 58 - Posted by: XCenturion 10/1/2020 2:27:30 AM (No. 558035)
Some people have labeled Chris Wallace as a "trusted journalist". After his failed attempt last night at moderating the Presidential debate his title should now be "dishonest Democrat hack." Wallace would be better off working for CNN or MSNBC rather than attempting to portray himself as an honest journalist on what used to be a reputable news channel like FOX. Time to tune out FOX!
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Paris climate treaty
puts America last
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Posted by Pluperfect 11/27/2020 4:40:56 AM Post Reply
Here we are in the midst of a once-in-a-half-century pandemic, with the economy flattened, millions of people unemployed, and unrest on the streets of our cities. And President-elect Joe Biden says that one of his highest priorities as president will be to reenter the Paris climate accord. President Trump kept his "put America first" promise and pulled the United States out of this Obama-era treaty. Biden wants us back in. Why? Paris is an unmitigated failure. You don't have to take my word for it. National Geographic, a supporter of climate change action, recently ran the numbers and admitted in its recent headline: "Most countries aren't hitting 2030 climate goals."
America’s Biggest Teachers Union Shakedowns 6 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/27/2020 4:35:12 AM Post Reply
Teachers unions have been instrumental in keeping American schools online during the pandemic. But some have escalated their positions on reopening to include an array of social justice demands. A set of demands from teachers unions in July, which addressed how to safely reopen schools amid a pandemic, was criticized by The Wall Street Journal editorial board as “political extortion.” The board argued that unions were taking advantage of a health crisis to advance their own ideological agendas and to eliminate competition from charter schools.
I’ll Give Up Black Friday When You Pry It
From My Cold, Bargain-Grabbing Hands
17 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/27/2020 4:30:52 AM Post Reply
Black Friday is my favorite day of the year and my favorite extreme sport, but when events and gatherings began disappearing from the calendar back in March, I thought surely Black Friday would be safe. Now here we are, more than eight months later. The mask Karens are still breathing down our necks, governors are trying to kill Thanksgiving, and Black Friday is canceled. The fliers are still arriving in the mail and the festive doorbuster commercials are rolling, but Black Friday this year just isn’t the same. A Black Friday that takes place mostly online, the whole week of Thanksgiving or the entire month of November,
Joe Biden and the 'Strolling Bones' 7 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/27/2020 4:27:11 AM Post Reply
They’re the Rolling Stones without the roadies. Or the great music. Or any music, actually. The Strolling Bones reunion tour. John Kerry and Joe Biden are getting the band back together again. Collectively, they have been getting things wrong in Washington for nearly 100 years. Literally, two of the dumbest people on earth … but they do love to hear themselves speak! Droning on and on and on.
Polling: The Gateway Political Drug to
Misinformation, Mistakes and Malfeasance
4 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/27/2020 4:21:41 AM Post Reply
Why do we do this to ourselves every four years? We talk incessantly about the latest poll in Florida and Michigan and Pennsylvania and Arizona until we are blue in the face. Then they turn out to be wildly wrong. When will we ever learn? It reminds me of that old saying which I think was from Einstein, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.” Polling, at least the old-school style, is over. Done. I don’t need to go through a long list of reasons why nobody should take pollsters seriously anymore, but a few data points are instructive.
Implications of the Flynn Pardon 11 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/26/2020 4:51:29 AM Post Reply
President Trump granted a pardon to Michael Flynn, his former national-security adviser, today. Flynn had pled guilty to lying to FBI agents about conversations, during the 2016 transition, with the Russian ambassador about sanctions. Flynn’s pardon should bring to an end one gross violation of the Constitution’s separation of powers, even as it gives rise to groundless accusations of another. Although Flynn had pled guilty, the circumstances of the case had raised serious concerns about whether the government had proceeded properly. The FBI, for example, questioned Flynn even though it did not appear he had violated any law. In May, Attorney General William Barr ordered the case dropped.
Trump channels Washington, Lincoln
in proclaiming Thanksgiving holiday
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Posted by Pluperfect 11/26/2020 4:24:19 AM Post Reply
The first Thanksgiving in the New World was celebrated in 1621, nearly a year after the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth. In 1789, George Washington became the first of many US presidents to formally proclaim a day of “public thanksgiving and prayer”: I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him
Go Ahead and Celebrate Thanksgiving 7 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/26/2020 4:16:49 AM Post Reply
Minnesota is one of a number of states that are living under what amounts to martial law. Our proto-fascist dictator Tim Walz, in his latest edict, purports to ban traditional Thanksgiving get-togethers: Saturday, Nov. 21 through Friday, Dec. 18, Executive Order 20-99 requires all Minnesotans to: * Limit social gatherings to one household. * Not gather outside of your household. * Postpone all celebrations, events, receptions, and parties, including any social gatherings for weddings and funerals. So it is “illegal” for me to invite any of my four kids to Thanksgiving dinner.
Obama defends Rev. Wright as 'supremely gifted
preacher,' hits Loeffler's 'crazy' attacks on Warnock
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Posted by Pluperfect 11/26/2020 4:10:43 AM Post Reply
Former President Barack Obama in an appearance on "The Breakfast Club" radio show on Wednesday said that attacks by Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler against her runoff opponent Raphael Warnock over his connection with Rev. Jeremiah Wright are "crazy stuff" as he defended Wright as a "supremely gifted preacher." Obama appeared on the popular radio show and podcast to promote his book "A Promised Land," which details much of his presidency, including his 2008 presidential campaign during which his connection to Wright became an issue. Wright has a history of controversial comments, including a sermon in which he said "God damn America" when referencing racial injustice.
Supreme Court rules against
Cuomo's coronavirus limits
-- with Barrett playing key role
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Posted by Pluperfect 11/26/2020 4:05:51 AM Post Reply
The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday night blocked New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo from reimposing strict attendance caps at worship services in areas hit hard by the novel coronavirus. The court ruled 5-4 to bar Cuomo from enforcing his Oct. 6 “Cluster Initiative” against houses of worship that sued to challenge the restrictions. The order was also the first in which Justice Amy Coney Barrett played a decisive role. Barrett, who was President Trump's third Supreme Court nominee, joined the court Oct. 27, after winning Senate confirmation following the Sept. 18 death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Stupidity Is A Comorbidity 9 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/25/2020 4:30:03 AM Post Reply
So, I had COVID, and that was interesting. I’m not interested in obeying all the fascist decrees of Governor Hairstyle here in California, so I won’t. And here’s some inside scoop on my new book Crisis, which at this moment is #31 out of all books on Amazon, so I’m outselling Fifty Shades of Grey. I’m not sure how to feel. Kurt Contracts COVID And Antics Ensue I’m fine. Irina’s fine, though she had it worse than me. How would I describe it? Well, like a middling head cold. I felt sniffley and was coughing one day, so I called a doctor client and got a 30-minute test.
Joe Biden's Obama retreads 3 replies
Posted by Pluperfect 11/25/2020 4:26:40 AM Post Reply
Are furbished product is seldom as desirable as a brand-new one. Joe Biden must be assuming Americans can’t tell the difference. Even as President Trump battles uphill to overturn the results of the recent presidential election, faces familiar during the earlier Age of Obama are reappearing in President-elect-apparent Biden’s pantheon of power. The looming Biden era promises to be Obama 3.0 — Hillary Clinton in 2016 was to be Obama 2.0, but new models don’t always live up to the original (see Windows Vista). Jen Psaki, communications director for the Obama White House and now filling a similar role during the nomination process, describes the emerging Biden brand:
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Biden's Incoherence Just Hit Critical Mass,
This Is Scary Awful
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Posted by Dreadnought 3/8/2021 11:45:49 PM Post Reply
As we reported two days ago, Joe Biden completely made no sense when he was trying to explain the Wuhan coronavirus relief bill. It was really bad and it explains why they’re afraid to have him deliver an address to Congress or do any kind of a real solo press conference, because at this point they have to be afraid this is all going to fall apart if he does anything live and this all becomes too obvious to the American people. But there’s only so long that they can hold this off. And it’s getting worse, as video today revealed. Biden was holding an event to announce the nomination
‘Huge Development’: Democrat Sen. Joe
Manchin Starts To Crack On Filibuster,
Signals Openness To Change
41 replies
Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 12:32:41 AM Post Reply
Democrat Senator Joe Manchin (WV) appears to have started to shift his views on the filibuster with remarks that he made on two news shows on Sunday morning.The shift from Manchin comes after he has repeatedly stated that he would not vote to end the filibuster, despite pressure from the far-Left. During the interviews on Sunday, Manchin repeatedly claimed that he was not open to ending the filibuster because he did not want to strip the minority party of their power in the Senate, but signaled that he was open to changing it.Fox News host Chris Wallace asked Manchin if he would consider “reforming the filibuster” if “Republicans
Evangelicals For Biden ‘Feel Used And Betrayed’
By Biden Fulfilling His Radical Abortion Promises
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Posted by Calvinesq 3/8/2021 10:37:51 AM Post Reply
In an open letter released Sunday, Pro-Life Evangelicals for Biden urged him to “honor his commitment” and include the Hyde Amendment in Democrats’ $1.9 trillion COVID-19 spending package, writing “we feel used and betrayed.” The letter states: We are very disappointed about the COVID-19 relief package’s exclusion of the Hyde Amendment, a longstanding bipartisan policy that prevents taxpayer funding for abortion. [snip] As pro-life leaders in the evangelical community, we publicly supported President Biden’s candidacy with the understanding that there would be engagement [with] us on the issue of abortion and particularly the Hyde Amendment
Meghan Markle reveals her true
self in Oprah interview
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 9:11:10 AM Post Reply
If you had any doubts that Meghan Markle is a manipulative piece of work, her bombshell Oprah interview Sunday night dumping on the British monarchy would set you straight. Prince Harry’s American wife accused his family of hateful racism against her baby, claimed they refused to protect her and drove her to the point of suicide.She made the incendiary and implausible charge that when she was pregnant with Archie, the royal family decreed that her unborn son would be denied the title of “prince” because her mixed race meant he might have dark skin.
Biden’s German Shepherds Shipped Back
to Delaware After ‘Biting Incident’
Involving White House Security
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 11:38:50 PM Post Reply
Joe and Jill Biden’s German Shepherds were shipped back to Delaware after a “biting incident” involving White House security, CNN reported.Major was adopted by Joe Biden and his handler wife Jill in 2018 from an animal shelter.Major and Champ moved into the White House in January and they’re already gone. The condition of the victim was not disclosed but it was serious enough to remove both dogs from the White House.CNN reported: The two German Shepherds belonging to President Joe Biden and first lady Jill Biden were returned to the Biden family home in Delaware last week
Pelosi’s HR1 bill a blatant power grab for Democrats 30 replies
Posted by FlyRight 3/8/2021 5:28:52 AM Post Reply
Nancy Pelosi’s top priority is to turn America into a one-party nation ruled by Democrats. Her bill HR 1 trashes the U.S. Constitution in an attempt to rig the system and make it virtually impossible to elect a Republican president or Congress again. It’s a power grab. The bill eviscerates state voting laws and forces all the states to conform to a set of rules that includes automatic voter registration. Anyone who goes to a DMV or applies for food stamps, Medicaid or other social services, or attends a public college will be automatically enrolled to vote. Noncitizens are obligated to identify themselves and opt out,
Biden seems to forget defense
secretary’s name, calls him
'the guy who runs that outfit'
29 replies
Posted by Ribicon 3/8/2021 8:37:17 PM Post Reply
President Biden on Monday seemed to forget Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s name at a White House event—calling the Pentagon chief “the guy who runs that outfit over there.” Biden was announcing the nomination of two female generals to lead US military combatant commands. “And I want to thank the sec—the, the, ah former general. I keep calling him general, but my, my—the guy who runs that outfit over there,” Biden said.(Snip) Earlier at the event, Biden mentioned the Defense Department leader by his name, “Secretary Austin,” while appearing to read from a teleprompter.
Oprah interview bombshells: Meghan claims
she was suicidal when she was five months
pregnant, Kate made HER cry and Royals
refused to make Archie a prince because
they were worried how 'dark' he would be
27 replies
Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 8:21:02 AM Post Reply
The Royal Family was left reeling this morning after Meghan Markle tearfully revealed that the stress of royal life made her suicidal when she was five months pregnant, claimed Archie was denied the title of prince because he is mixed-race and said Kate Middleton made her cry before she married Harry in a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.The couple also chose to reveal that they are having a baby girl to the tens of millions of people watching the CBS show broadcast in the US before accusing the Royal Family of racism and revealing the deep rift 'Megxit' has caused with Prince Charles and Prince William.
Meghan Markle openly
accuses the Royals
of racism
26 replies
Posted by Magnante 3/8/2021 5:26:07 AM Post Reply
I’m probably second to none in my dislike for Meghan Markle. There’s something unattractive about a mature woman marrying into the British Royal family with one of the world’s most expensive weddings, hanging out with the Queen, living in insane luxury…and then whining non-stop about the horror of her life. There’s something even less appealing when that woman accuses the Royal family of race hatred. And the problem is that, when it comes to that left-wing diva, Meghan Markle, it’s hard to believe most of what she says. After weeks of hype, CBS finally televised Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s interview with Oprah.
Watch: John Solomon Gives Stunning Update
in Durham’s ‘Russiagate’ Investigation
24 replies
Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 4:56:55 PM Post Reply
Without question, the vast majority of Americans who support former President Donald Trump were angry and frustrated throughout 2020 passed with barely a mention of then-U.S. Attorney John Durham’s criminal investigation into the FBI’s fraudulent “Russiagate” counterterrorism operation directed at his 2016 campaign.In the weeks before the November election, word got out that then-Attorney General William Barr wasn’t going to announce any indictments or even a report on Durham’s investigation because he did not want to influence the outcome.So far, in fact, the only indictment to come out of the Durham probe is that of former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who essentially got a slap on the wrist
Democrats renew calls to remove
J. Edgar Hoover's name from FBI building
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Posted by Ribicon 3/8/2021 2:56:29 PM Post Reply
Rep. Steve Cohen vowed to renew the push to remove former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover’s name from the bureau’s downtown Washington headquarters, according to an interview released Monday. Appearing on Yahoo! News’ Skullduggery podcast, the Tennessee Democrat said the effort is getting a fresh look after the release of a new movie highlighting the FBI’s secret program to discredit civil rights activists. The Washington Times in 2019 first reported Democrats’ bid to strip the longtime FBI director’s name from the bureau’s headquarters. Mr. Cohen said the impetus to revive the bid is the new movie, “Judas and the Black Messiah.” The movie details
Jill Biden, the Meghan Markle
in the WH, is egregiously
guilty of elder abuse
23 replies
Posted by Magnante 3/9/2021 4:40:38 AM Post Reply
“There must have been a moment, at the beginning, when we could have said –-no. But somehow we missed it.” Tom Stoppard The millions of Americans who were paying attention throughout the 2020 election campaign all became painfully aware of the fact that Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities were slipping and slipping fast. His wife, as the person closest to him, should have been the one to call the campaign quits in order to reduce stress on the man. Instead, apparently so anxious to become the First Lady by any means necessary, Mrs. Biden continued to push her failing husband’s campaign forward as if he were mentally qualified.
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