Officer charged in George Floyd's
death argues drug overdose
killed him, not knee on neck
ABC News,
by
Bill Hutchinson
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
8/30/2020 9:37:24 PM
A defense attorney for the fired Minneapolis police officer charged with murder in connection with the death of George Floyd is asking a judge to drop all charges, arguing the 46-year-old man's death was allegedly from a drug overdose and not caused by the officer planting his knee in the back of Floyd's neck. (Snip) Nelson contends Chauvin acted on his training from the Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) in the use of a "Maximal Restraint Technique" and did so out of concern that Floyd might harm himself or the officers struggling to arrest him. The Minneapolis Police Department policy on
Reply 1 - Posted by:
droopydog 8/30/2020 9:55:15 PM (No. 526406)
The medical examiner said so. What is a jury to do?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Nimby 8/30/2020 10:03:58 PM (No. 526411)
Isn’t that the scientific evidence?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Sunhan65 8/30/2020 10:05:54 PM (No. 526413)
I remember vividly hearing how these officers murdered this guy, sometimes even on this site. The more we find out, the less criminal they look. In fact, they may end up being found not culpable at all. However, I suspect an acquittal is no longer possible. In such a distorted and threatening environment, the police no longer get a just verdict. Where does that leave us?
No justice, no police.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Johann 8/30/2020 10:06:44 PM (No. 526415)
This officer must be punished to the fullest extent possible. I have no problem with police shooting thugs destroying property and setting fires. George Floyd was handcuffed and on the the ground throughout the nine minutes of ordeal. How might he harm himself and the officers in a deadly way?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Scribelus 8/30/2020 10:07:20 PM (No. 526416)
Those four police officers are political prisoners. Trapped in the progressive gulag.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 8/30/2020 10:17:35 PM (No. 526421)
#4, do yourself a favor and read up on “Excited Delirium Syndrome” (EDS) for which the EMERGENCY TREATMENT is immobilization until Med help can give tranquilizers. What Chauvin did was right out of the protocol for dealing with EDS; he was killing Floyd, he was trying to save his life.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 8/30/2020 10:18:41 PM (No. 526422)
Sorry, Chauvin was NOT killing Floyd.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Vesicant 8/30/2020 10:36:01 PM (No. 526426)
The point is not what killed Floyd. The point is that the militarized police think they have a right to kneel on our necks any old time they fell like it, and they need to be stopped. Don't want to put Chauvin on trial for murder? Fine, but he and his kind shouldn't be cops.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
valinva 8/30/2020 10:57:56 PM (No. 526430)
Chauvin's mistake was in not recognizing that George Floyd was suffering from the effects of Fentanyl.He seems to have been following police procedure when he and the other officers applied the "Maximal Restraint Technique" as per police department protocol. How different the story would be had George Floyd had only uttered the words, 'I swallowed Fentanyl' before uttering the words 'I can't breath'
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
davew 8/30/2020 11:02:32 PM (No. 526432)
If there was no bruising or damage to Floyd's neck and he was able to move his head despite the restraint pressure how can they conclude that he was suffocated? They reported his lungs were swollen with fluid to 2-3x the normal weight due to the fentanyl overdose. This is why he couldn't breathe, the normal blood gas exchange across the membranes was prevented by the fluid buildup just as with pneumonia. Let the science determine the cause of death not the political narrative of racial activists.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 8/31/2020 12:24:33 AM (No. 526455)
Yes, this is the truth. The autopsy confirmed it.
The Enemedia will be freaking out.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
SALady 8/31/2020 12:25:47 AM (No. 526456)
I knew when the DA decided to charge him with murder instead of manslaughter, that they wanted him to be found not guilty.
It was never about "justice" but about having another excuse for massive riots and destruction when the verdict is handed down and he walks free.
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...death was allegedly from a drug overdose...
Allegedly? It was in the coroner's autopsy report, Bill.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
DVC 8/31/2020 12:27:38 AM (No. 526459)
#4, I would suggest you learn more and stop embarrassing yourself with your lack of information.
The knee on the back of the neck is the medically recommended, best way to restrain a person who has excited delirium. The exact method is in the MPD training manual.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
belwhatter 8/31/2020 1:15:03 AM (No. 526481)
#4 might also look up 'hooping' , the word given for stuffing a baggie of drugs into the rectum. Floyd had earlier in his conversation with the LEOs admitted to this as well as ingesting fentanyl and meth.There will be a miscarriage of justice because Officer Chauvin was convicted in the court of ignorant public opinion before evidence was gathered.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
DVC 8/31/2020 2:28:28 AM (No. 526501)
#4, I respectfully recommend you please read this article.
https://spectator.org/george-floyd-police-training-minneapolis/
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 8/31/2020 10:55:24 AM (No. 526856)
it does not take nine minutes to render someone unconscious by cutting off blood flow or air flow therefore neither were cut off. They were trying to save a dope fiend's life, but he was too far gone.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 8/31/2020 10:59:20 AM (No. 526864)
It is amazing that so many people have NO clue as to the dangers that the police actually face and the thought that goes into their training. I'm not saying it's perfect but it is authorized by the authorities they work under making bad outcomes NOT the officer's fault as long as they follow procedure.
I (not a police officer) HAVE encountered people under the influence of drugs. They can be scary dangerous, unbelievably strong, and unpredictable. As other have pointed out, a neck restraint, as was used, is authorized procedure. The police did AS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. If you don't like it, talk to the city authorities and change the rules and training. But the next time a dangerous and drugged person like Floyd breaks loose because he was insufficiently restrained, don't come whining about the police not doing their jobs.
My choice would be to have the criminal, and Floyd WAS a criminal, suffer the consequences of their actions and not the police officers or innocents who happen to get in the way.
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These 4 police tried to save Floyds life and for there proper action are charged with murder. If you were top ask a hundred people on the street when Floyd died, they most likely would say during that 9 minute video. Actually, one of the police rode with the ambulance people on the way to the hospital where he did die, in a further attempt to save this man's life. Ellison is apparently a horrible person if he indeed charge murder before seeing the coronor's report or the body camera and then would not allow the truth to be published.
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If there is a policy manual that backs-up Chauvin's actions, the murder charge will be impossible to prosecute.