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Donald Trump REFUSES to shoot down birther
claim that Kamala Harris cannot run as VP because
her parents are immigrants - calling
Republican lawyer who pushed claim 'highly respected'

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Posted By: Ladyhawke, 8/13/2020 9:20:03 PM

President Donald Trump fanned the flames of yet another 'birther' conspiracy theory by telling White House reporters Thursday that he had 'no idea' if Kamala Harris was eligible to be vice president. The president added that the Republican lawyer who wrote a Newsweek op-ed pushing that claim 'is a very highly qualified, very talented lawyer.' Right-wing law professor John C. Eastman wrote an editorial Wednesday that argued that because Harris' parents weren't citizens when she was born in 1964 in Oakland, California then she might not fit the definition of eligibility under the U.S. Constitution.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 8/13/2020 9:24:56 PM (No. 509143)
Neither of her parents were citizens when she was born. Does that make her a "natural born citizen"? I don't think so.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ladyhawke 8/13/2020 9:28:19 PM (No. 509147)
Here we go again! Those of us that were here exploring this issue regarding Obama will feel history repeating, that did not end Constitutionally well. Our founders clearly felt there was a difference between a simple citizen and a Natural Born Citizen, to the point they knew they could not qualify for NBC status and exempted themselves.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MMC 8/13/2020 9:28:51 PM (No. 509148)
Liberal heads explode... and master trolled again... Prove she is eligible... Her dad is Jamaican- didn’t become a citizen until after Khamala’s birth... same for mom from India. There is Native born- and natural born... Natural Born is necessary for eligibility.. No problem exposing this... right?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: bighambone 8/13/2020 9:29:08 PM (No. 509149)
Let the five liberals on the US Supreme Court figure out the matter in a very quick emergency hearing.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nimby 8/13/2020 9:45:32 PM (No. 509160)
Yo Nikki Schwab! How come you never asked the same question when Ted Cruz was being accused similarly? Shit up and go asay
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Reply 6 - Posted by: OhioNick 8/13/2020 9:55:37 PM (No. 509175)
After reading hundreds of comments on the Daily Mail's website, I was saddened by the terrible state of education in this country. Just for one second, let's put aside the notion of her Native Born (not Natural Born) Citizenship. Kamala Lewinsky (I wish more people would call her that) was born with Jamaican citizenship. There was no such thing as Anchor Baby Citizenship in 1964. (In the 1950s, President Eisenhower deported more than one-million Mexicans -- even the ones born here -- and there were no legal challenges.) The real issue is the historical fact that the Founding Founders were very clear on dual loyalties and dual citizenship, and that our president couldn't be a dual citizen, which Kamala certainly is. And when exactly did her parents become U.S. citizens? I always thought they were simply guest workers who spent a limited time living and working in this country. Not that it matters, but were either of her parents actual U.S. citizens?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Scribelus 8/13/2020 10:08:14 PM (No. 509181)
It is a source of mild amusement to read snark about a Constitutional matter, issuing from a source in a country that fought two wars with America, one just before and one just after the Constitution was established.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Twinkle93 8/13/2020 10:17:34 PM (No. 509187)
Has Kamala renounced her Jamaican citizenship?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: sw penn 8/13/2020 10:27:56 PM (No. 509195)
So, daddy was Jamaican, fact? And mommy was Indian, fact? Neither was a US citizen when she was born, fact? There was no "Anchor Baby" BS in 1964, fact? So she's not even a US citizen, fact? So she should not be on the Democrat Presidential ticket, fact? In fact, she could, perhaps should, be deported, right?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: slsusnr 8/13/2020 10:45:58 PM (No. 509199)
Listen, I despise Kamala Harris, but she's a US citizen. The 14th amendment clearly defines birthright citizenship, and so does US code. From Wikipedia: Under United States Federal law (8 U.S.C. § 1401), a person is a United States national and citizen if: the person is born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. What part of that don't some people understand? BORN is only four letters. She was BORN on US soil. If some fool takes this to court and wants to claim she's not a citizen, if I were the judge, I'd have the legal genius sit down and write out the first part of the 14th amendment 100 times.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: sw penn 8/13/2020 10:58:38 PM (No. 509204)
"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. ..." That's a lot more than four letter #10. The devils in the details
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Reply 12 - Posted by: curious1 8/13/2020 11:33:39 PM (No. 509224)
#10, your position has been dissected quite a bit over the years. The 14th wasn't written to give citizenship to the baby of some foreigner, if said baby just happened to be born here. if their parents weren't US citizens (notwithstanding the leftard jurist who claimed it did and created the 'anchor baby' joke), then the baby doesn't have US citizenship. The authors of the 14th made it clear what they meant. There's plenty of discussion about the history of the amendment that explains things. Though you won't want to waste your time with the 'modern' aka leftard explications which start in the 60s. Go back to the explanations and writings before that time, closer to when it was written and passed. And #11 pointed out the key - which the authors of the amendment clearly explain,. And it is only 'confusing' to leftards, to hear them tell it, it must be written in an unknown language, it's so confusing to them.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ZeldaFitzg 8/13/2020 11:34:39 PM (No. 509225)
She is a citizen of the U.S. by birth. Stop tilting at windmills.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Ladyhawke 8/13/2020 11:40:58 PM (No. 509228)
Once again, and I know I wrote this many times regarding Obama, the question is not who is simply a citizen. A terrible interpretation of a SCOTUS decision created anchor babies. The question is: Who is a Natural Born Citizen, per the Founders. Clearly, they meant there to be a very high standard. Writings and sources indicate they meant a citizen born of 2 citizens. It is unclear if the requirement also included birth on US soil.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: KTWO 8/13/2020 11:47:37 PM (No. 509236)
I'm not a lawyer but I happened to write a long paper about the topic. Later when the Obama ' birther' question came up I reviewed the law. So I'll toss in two cents and hope that makes sense. #10 is correct. Then #11 cites the 'subject' clause in the 14th. That clause exempts recognized foreign officials such as diplomats or ministers. They are not 'subject to the jurisdiction...' of our government. So any child they have while on US soil would not be a US citizen at birth. So the 'subject' clause did not exclude Kamala from citizenship at birth. The 'anchor baby' objection is a red herring. It is a policy about the parents, not about the child. IIRC McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone and there was some carping about that. It came to nothing. His parents were US citizens. There was also similar noise about Ted Cruz but I forget the details. Something about Canada.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Miceal 8/13/2020 11:58:57 PM (No. 509245)
She, like Obozo are NOT Natural Born Americans. Oh, and there are a few Republicans who ran and WERE NOT qualified for the job for the same reason...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: OhioNick 8/14/2020 12:01:06 AM (No. 509246)
#10 There was no birthright citizenship in 1964. There was no such thing as an Anchor Baby. The author of the 14th Amendment went on the floor of the Senate and explicitly stated that the children of foreigners born in this country would NOT be considered U.S. citizens. And that's the way the 14th Amendment was interpreted for the next 114 years until 1982, when one liberal Supreme Court justice -- in a footnote of a ruling in an unrelated case -- illegally claimed that the 14th Amendment said otherwise. And being a "citizen" isn't enough to run as the VP. Kamala clearly isn't a second-generation "Natural Born Citizen." Although the Founding Fathers didn't include a glossary at the end of the U.S. Constitution, they certainly didn't pull the term "Natural Born Citizen" out of thin air. It has a specific meaning. It's a legal term that was defined in one of the books they used when writing the Constitution. At the convention in Philadelphia, there were three copies of the book, "The Laws Of Nation" by Emerich de Vattel." The book explicitly says that a Natural Born Citizen is a second-generation citizen, which Kamala clearly is not. And for the record, if one of Kamala's parents did in fact become a U.S. citizen, then that would make her a Naturalized Citizen, which clearly prohibits her from running for the office of Vice President -- just like it would Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Reply 18 - Posted by: OhioNick 8/14/2020 12:11:22 AM (No. 509256)
#10 & #13 1) There was no such thing as Anchor Baby Citizenship in 1964. Kamala was a foreign national when she was born, and was legally considered a citizen of Jamaica. 2) The author of the 14th Amendment went on the floor of the Senate and stated that the no child born to foreigners would be considered a U.S. citizen. 3) For 112 years (1868 to 1982), the 14th Amendment banned the concept of Anchor Baby Citizenship. That's why the many Mexicans who were born in the U.S. didn't fight their deportation in court in the 1950s. 4) In 1982, one liberal Supreme Court justice wrote in a footnote of an unrelated case that the 14th Amendment actually meant the opposite of what the writer had intended. 5) If one of Kamala's parents did in fact become a U.S. citizen when she was a minor, then that would make her a Naturalized Citizen, and she would clearly not be eligible for the office of Vice President.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: indianajames 8/14/2020 12:28:47 AM (No. 509266)
Perhaps this will help clarify: If you have to get your citizenship by statute, you will be a citizen, but you will never be a Natural Born Citizen, something obvious on its face. Someone wrote this to me and it really helped my understanding of the issue.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Harlowe 8/14/2020 12:58:14 AM (No. 509274)
See article just posted to this website. --- “natural born Citizen: Kamala Harris” written by William A. Jacobson of Legal Insurrection (American lawyer, Cornell Law School Professor). Professor Jacobson concludes that “Kamala Harris is eligible to be Vice President (and potentially, President) just as were Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz.”
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Reply 21 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 8/14/2020 2:17:23 AM (No. 509314)
She moved to Canada with her mother when she was seven. Someone brought up a point about whether she is a Canadian citizen. Anyone know ?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LaVallette 8/14/2020 3:41:30 AM (No. 509342)
The case against Harris is far stringer than that against Obama. The latter at least was born from an American citizen mother.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: dolphin 8/14/2020 8:05:37 AM (No. 509492)
Probably past time to clarify that legally. That being said, like Obama, Harris was mostly raised elsewhere mostly by people who were raised elsewhere. That certainly gives them both a different view of a nation and a culture. Since we know what BO tried to do, we could be suspicious about what Harris would do.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rumblehog 8/14/2020 8:55:11 AM (No. 509567)
The left likes us to believe that our Constitution's "Natural Born" requirement for POTUS means the person wasn't delivered by the "Cesarean" method. s/o
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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone 8/14/2020 9:08:05 AM (No. 509582)
By saying that he had “no idea” if Harris was eligible to be President this British very liberal-socialist media publication claims that Trump was failing to “shoot down” a new “birther” claim. Big deal, as in the USA there is the 1st Amendment and people can make any sort of claim that they wish. Harris can also speak for herself.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: mamabear 8/14/2020 1:41:59 PM (No. 509989)
He also said he assumed the democrats checked that out before nominating her. His comments were hardly an accusation, support for or a statement that she is not a citizen. This whole issue is a specious, no-win proposition; pointless since the media will do everything in their power to get her elected regardless of her character and whether or not she is a natural born citizen. Plus, no republican will EVER contest it or support him if he does. The time to fight that battle and have the court address it was 2008. They buried their heads in the sand and passed out of fear of being called racist. PDJT should just stay out of that fight. Best to move on rather than give the media another reason to call him racist and cast him as a fool like they did in the B/O birther fight. She has far more salient and problematic baggage that he can address - carefully I hope.
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