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CDC director admits hospitals, medical folks
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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 8/3/2020 1:32:50 AM

U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield has confirmed that, despite claims otherwise from the left, there is indeed a “perverse incentive” for hospitals to overcount their coronavirus deaths by falsely attributing unrelated deaths to the virus. Asked during a House Oversight and Reform hearing Friday to comment on what Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer, a Republican, described as a “perverse incentive for medical folks to claim that somebody died of COVID versus an automobile accident, for instance,” Redfield admitted that the congressman had a point. Watch the full back-and-forth discussion below: [video]

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Reply 1 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 8/3/2020 3:03:00 AM (No. 498155)
Good chance some deaths are counted several times and people dying from other causes are counted as dying from the virus. As a local doctor on the radio said, takes too many man hours to key in negative tests. I still think there are way too many false positive tests. I was at the hospital recently and shocked at how many less out patients were there. They have to be down 75%.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: RuckusTom 8/3/2020 3:54:44 AM (No. 498164)
Covid deaths = Federal dollars.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DCGIRL 8/3/2020 5:33:41 AM (No. 498176)
What was Trump thinking when he signed the stimulus package with this crap in it. They need to go stop it now and let's get a real count of who died of this virus. This is totally crazy. Also, Pres. Trump needs to clean house at CDC.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Daisymay 8/3/2020 6:18:20 AM (No. 498191)
I live in Central Florida. Since the Hurricane started it's way towards us, the people who do the testing had to take down their Tents and quit. We have not heard one word about Covid for days! Our local news always began the nightly news with the count of "cases". Now, not one word. It's like Covid is over. No mention of Hospital Cases or Deaths! Something tells me it was ALL to scare the heck out of people! Time for ALL businesses to open. Time for the kids to go back to school and time for everyone to go back to work! And, time to get rid of the Darn Mask!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bur Oak 8/3/2020 7:16:53 AM (No. 498223)
The CDC has failed in its mission. Redfield and many of the CDC administration ought to be retired or reassigned.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Right Republican 8/3/2020 7:23:07 AM (No. 498231)
Well, well, well, once again one can see the huge 'tell' when it comes to the truth being revealed -- Youtube disables the comments. Can't let people verify the truth with their supporting anecdotes, now can we Youtube? Talk about 'an inconvenient truth', huh? They're hoping no one will see this video upload at all. Is the COVID-19 virus a complete hoax? No, but the over-hype regarding it is clearly political and anyone denying that should have their head examined.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: udanja99 8/3/2020 8:00:49 AM (No. 498261)
If the truth about CV19 ever gets out, we will learn that the numbers of both the positive tests and the deaths were inflated by about 900%.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 8/3/2020 8:16:19 AM (No. 498280)
FTA - "...hospitals receive a 20 percent premium when seeking payment for Medicare patients who died allegedly of the coronavirus." In other words, follow the money. I wonder how much this fraudulent practice has inflated the numbers that the msm then further inflates to make their fake news sound interesting.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 8/3/2020 8:28:51 AM (No. 498297)
This makes the undercover reporting by the nurses, from Florida and Nevada that helped out in New York, even more relevant! https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/must-watch-tearful-nurse-blows-whistle-new-york-hospitals-murdering-covid-patients-complete-medical-mismanagement/
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lawsy0 8/3/2020 8:35:08 AM (No. 498305)
CDC has not only failed this country, it has given us the gift of something like a Fauci.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: HotRod 8/3/2020 8:50:19 AM (No. 498317)
The other thing that is being done to make the virus seem all out of proportion to reality is the reporting of every single death attributed to the virus. Headlines every day. Media reports and charts every day. Add to that the political rejection of Hydroxychloroquine as a successful treatment. We now know that many deaths were NOT because of the virus. That information is coming out increasingly from many medical sources. Compare what is happening in the media/CDC reporting, to how deaths from any of the other Flu viruses were reported in the past. Were we regaled with news of every single infection and death? No!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 8/3/2020 9:19:02 AM (No. 498364)
Now will the LIEberals trash this man because he speaks a truth we already knew?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: lakerman1 8/3/2020 9:33:11 AM (No. 498381)
family friend's daughter in law is a physician practicing in north Carolina. She said if a persaon is tested, and is positive for Kung Flu, and then re-tested, that one case of Kung Flu is reported as two different cases, and if tested yet again, theat represents three different cases.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Chuzzles 8/3/2020 9:55:27 AM (No. 498399)
Speaking as somebody whose daughter works in the healthcare profession, I call baloney on this being all on the hospitals. I also know from other sources who have kids in LE and would know, that this counting stuff isn't on the hospitals, the morgue and so on. It is coming from a lot higher levels than just the hospitals and morgue. I suspect it comes from more like Governor's level of orders. Too much money at stake to be low level. This has the smell of politicians on it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Zigrid 8/3/2020 9:58:43 AM (No. 498405)
The CDC has lost all hope of being honest.... and Americans can see that....we are not stupid....the DNC lefties want to scare citizens so they stay home and huddle in a corner while the country falls to it's knees... well buckaroos we are alive and well.... we are attending church, picnicking and boating.... visiting historical sites.....
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 8/3/2020 10:04:59 AM (No. 498411)
Everybody knows that if you subsidize something you get more of it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: jhpeters2 8/3/2020 10:22:52 AM (No. 498440)
Perverse incentive intensifies! In the democrat's fondest dream. Passing out money like drunken sailors, destroying families, small and large businesses (and the economy) removing Constitutional rights and conflating petulant snowflake riots with freedom of speech. Covid-19 lock down in a nut shell.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: starboard 8/3/2020 10:24:44 AM (No. 498444)
#1 I agree. There's an hysteria regarding this test from the left who want to delay the lock-down. The more positives the longer the crisis will last....to hell with the people and the children. From my early career as a Med Tech, I know how tests can be flawed if not properly determined. Let's face it, this test was quickly put together and I have no doubt it's flawed giving a percentage of false positive results. An independent lab should do further analysis on this test to determine if other antibodies besides the Covid 19 are being pulled for a positive test result.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Are You Serious 8/3/2020 10:36:05 AM (No. 498453)
So what we can assume from this is that the government bureaucracy lies to the citizenry all the time......nothing within government beyond Donald Trump can be counted on to be honest with the people. The swamp does not need to be drained....it needs to be exterminated.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: felixcat 8/3/2020 10:46:51 AM (No. 498477)
I live outside northern Virginia so all my local news is based out of DC (heaven help me). Since this Covid crap started, I have stopped watching local news as (even more than normal) is even more slanted Left and it's COVID-19 all the time and every story has a tie in with the Covid crap. They cannot even do a weather report without somehow mentioning Covid. And as I have posted here before, almost 25 years of 5 days a week riding public transportation into/out of DC and not one ad by the CDC, etc in a subway train car or bus on washing hands, etc to control/prevent the spread of respiratory illnesses until this year, March to be exact. How many viruses, etc were floating around year after year and no one cared until this year? Montgomery County, MD govt has just told private schools they cannot open up this year. Just like that even if they follow every precaution and then some. This has got to stop. The stupid masks, the social distancing crap, all of it. If I'm social distancing then why do I need a mask and vice versa? I wish President Trump would put on his dictator hat and tell all the governors to open up your states now and no more make, etc. Just do it!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DustDevil31 8/3/2020 11:11:55 AM (No. 498519)
Of course the numbers are manipulated. Hospitals in PA off a $1000 kickback if you sent to letting them list COVID as Cause PF death on a loved one’s death certificate. The numbers are all corrupted.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: NotaBene 8/3/2020 11:48:28 AM (No. 498564)
Americans are now trained to routinely lie at work. If they pay, numbers will be inflated. Perhaps by 50%? If you test positive they will keep testing until you get two negative tests. If you get a positive test it is best to confirm it with a second test. If they then test you for antibodies to donate convalescent plasma you will also score positive. All of the above are counted as NEW cases. Deaths being reported now are from weeks ago in large part. Why are we doing worse than the rest of the world? Because the NIH and CDC are incompetent bureaucracies. This pandemic will go away November 4th. The greatest scandal is that Hydroxychloroquine plus Zinc is not allowed, even as a prophylactic. The Henry Ford Medical Center showed a 50% decrease in deaths by Hydroxychloroquine treatment, yet it is not promoted by our FDA. Countries with over-the-counter Hydroxychloroquine such as India and Uganda are much better off than US. Hydroxychloroquine has been used as a safe prophylactic for malaria for decades. The NIH and CDC are responsible for 50% of our Chinavirus deaths, whatever their real numbers are.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: JackBurton 8/3/2020 11:55:46 AM (No. 498567)
Michigan recently had to back off on covid death claims. 16 people listed as having died from the covid... ....were still alive.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Bluefindad 8/3/2020 12:05:50 PM (No. 498583)
What am I missing here? Isn't it fairly easy to test whether COVID deaths are misreported by determining whether there is a commensurate drop in deaths reported from other causes? Death rates and causes have been tracked for years. We should have a pretty good understanding of the degree of differentiation from the expected curve. Where are the actual data?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 8/3/2020 2:18:09 PM (No. 498708)
So, how about DOING SOMETHING TO STOP IT?!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Hard Nard 8/3/2020 3:06:40 PM (No. 498785)
The answer is simple - cut off federal funds for reporting Covid cases. The virus will evaporate overnight.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: or gate 8/3/2020 7:28:56 PM (No. 499029)
Like Trump said years ago... The game is rigged.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 8/3/2020 9:50:58 PM (No. 499129)
Interesting. I was gone from my area for 5 days. When I returned I checked our county web site on the Chinese virus. They reduced the number of deaths by over 25% while I was gone. Out of nearly 700k people, only 80 have died. Last year the flu killed over 450 people at this same time and the year before that, the flu killed almost 500 people.
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