U of M trial shows hydroxychloroquine
has no benefit over placebo
KSTP-TV [Minneapolis St. Paul],
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: voxpopuli,
7/16/2020 5:54:30 PM
Thursday, University of Minnesota Medical School researchers published results from the first randomized clinical trial testing hydroxychloroquine for the early treatment of mild COVID-19 among persons who are not hospitalized.
The trial results, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, determined that hydroxychloroquine did not decrease the severity of COVID-19 symptoms over 14 days any better than a placebo.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
poliposter 7/16/2020 6:03:07 PM (No. 480670)
Why do they keep testing it by itself? Why not with Z-pac and zinc? That's the cocktail that works.
53 people like this.
Reply 2 - Posted by:
millstream 7/16/2020 6:09:50 PM (No. 480674)
maybe waiting the 14 days is the reason it's not being as effective as in other studies. This really is a stubborn point with the medical establishment in this country. It can't be effective unless it works within the timeframe and prescription parameters they agree upon...Maybe they are waiting fro that miracle drug that costs thousands per dose
21 people like this.
Reply 3 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 7/16/2020 6:13:38 PM (No. 480677)
Yeah because it's all about science.
17 people like this.
Reply 4 - Posted by:
TXknitter 7/16/2020 6:18:31 PM (No. 480679)
Two OTHER university studies cited the same drug did have a pretty darn good degree of efficacy. I knew they would never let that stand.
34 people like this.
Reply 5 - Posted by:
hotcorner 7/16/2020 6:21:25 PM (No. 480685)
Put the Dems to sleep in Minnesota, Mike the pillow man for Governor.
34 people like this.
Reply 6 - Posted by:
mizzmac 7/16/2020 6:30:39 PM (No. 480690)
University of Minnesota, you say? Hmmmm....
17 people like this.
Reply 7 - Posted by:
marbles 7/16/2020 6:33:02 PM (No. 480693)
Uh huh. I don't believe it either.
22 people like this.
Seems to run contrary to the 300,000 people in India who were part of their recent study.
And, showing clear link to the spike (after HCQ was stopped by FDA) around 13 days after, and a reduction once it was used as part of the HCQ, Zinc and Zpack cocktail.
Anyone check if the U-M has connections with the makers of other more expensive drugs being touted as a possible prophylactic?
22 people like this.
Reply 9 - Posted by:
Mofongo 7/16/2020 6:57:48 PM (No. 480701)
That’s fine. Let patients and doctors pick their therapies.
19 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
LanceLink1 7/16/2020 7:01:10 PM (No. 480703)
All right I didn't read the whole article. My disclaimer.
Their "study" was done on patients with mild cases with no changes in the severity of the symptoms. Mild cases don't have severe symptoms do they? If I had a mild cold with the sniffles and took a cold medicine but still had the sniffles I wouldn't think the cold medicine worked either. But if I had a higher temperature, with stuffed up head, aches and pains and couldn't sleep and took the same cold remedy and it abated these symptoms then the results are more meaningful. In other words why didn't they test it on patients with severe symptoms and if they did where are those results?
15 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 7/16/2020 7:01:34 PM (No. 480705)
The Extreme Leftist U of Minn? Yeah, they WOULD get that result.
Sure. Whatever you say.
14 people like this.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
Newtsche 7/16/2020 7:01:40 PM (No. 480706)
Oh, go golden go pher yourself...
3 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
IowaDad 7/16/2020 7:02:58 PM (No. 480708)
This trial is not powered to detect a minor benefit due to not enough patients enrolled (odd, because an "internet trial" should have massive numbers). The trial doesn't prove anything, but there is a suggestion that HCQ has a modest benefit
4 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
synchronicity 7/16/2020 7:05:38 PM (No. 480709)
Seeing that the placebo effect ranges from 20 - 50% successful (don't ask me how, just stating statistics) I'd say hydroxychloroquine is definitely worth a shot if a person is diagnosed with COVID-19.
6 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
The Remnants 7/16/2020 7:11:59 PM (No. 480716)
How many professions now make part of the qualifications for hiring the ability to lie well and with ease? Scary how our country is evolving - really scary. Another new normal that I could do without.
7 people like this.
Reply 16 - Posted by:
davew 7/16/2020 7:14:58 PM (No. 480717)
How can they claim that HCQ had no effect on COVID symptoms if they mixed patients with "confirmed" and "probable" infections? If, for example, 75% of the patients were of the "probable" type and actually had flu or a cold symptoms rather than actual COVID respiratory symptoms (greater lung tissue involvement) the trial would be testing for effectiveness against the wrong disease. I would not accept these findings until I saw the actually number of confirmed and probable cases and the separate statistics on these subgroups. This seems like a classic case of not controlling for a confounder in an RCT.
7 people like this.
Reply 17 - Posted by:
coyote 7/16/2020 7:16:07 PM (No. 480718)
The U of M has been throwing the bull for over 50 years.
3 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/16/2020 7:39:23 PM (No. 480732)
One word that describes their reliability...Minnesota.
Likely loaded with Commies and have a raging agenda...
7 people like this.
Reply 19 - Posted by:
Venturer 7/16/2020 7:42:34 PM (No. 480735)
These "scientists and experts" cannot make up their minds.
Jack says it work, Jill says it doesn't.
I don't think they know what works and what doesn't and stick their wet fingers out the windows for an answer.
The whole thing depends on what the political climate outside that window is.
3 people like this.
Reply 20 - Posted by:
OhioNick 7/16/2020 7:44:00 PM (No. 480739)
What a coincidence. Just a few minutes before reading this article, I was wondering what the Covid-19 rates were among those who have been self-medicating with this drug as a preventative for the last several months?
And since we're told it "doesn't work," then why should my doctor mind if I request a prescription for this drug.
3 people like this.
Reply 21 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 7/16/2020 9:19:25 PM (No. 480794)
I always thought it was mostly used to lower the death rate of those that were very sick. 5 days isn't very long.
1 person likes this.
Reply 22 - Posted by:
SALady 7/16/2020 9:29:17 PM (No. 480810)
Don't forget the first rule of any research project at any university in the USA these days: Unless it makes President Trump look bad, it's not valid.
So, of course, they will be screaming about the results of this study for years!!! Well, at least until a real scientist proves that they are totally wrong and their research is as faulty as their lie-beral brainwashing!!!
1 person likes this.
Reply 23 - Posted by:
edgar 7/16/2020 9:49:43 PM (No. 480834)
Poster #1, it is by design. Recent reports are confirming the impact of the cocktail. Big Pharma needs a study to say it does not work. If get the Wuhan Flu, I am going with the cocktail.
6 people like this.
Reply 24 - Posted by:
Kate318 7/16/2020 10:26:55 PM (No. 480870)
The evil that powers the left is determined to shred any ray of hope the world offers. May God let me live long enough to see justice done.
5 people like this.
Reply 25 - Posted by:
Smart11344 7/17/2020 1:29:43 PM (No. 481595)
I am so ashamed of my birth state, Minnesota (1944), that crying doesn't even help. Are the smoking hay laced with something else?
0 people like this.
Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "voxpopuli"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Comments:
and of course we believe EVERYTHING from the Yewniversitee of COMMIEnesota