'I Don't Want to Go Back': Many Teachers
Are Fearful and Angry Over Pressure to Return
New York Times,
by
Dana Goldstein
&
Eliza Shapiro
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
7/13/2020 8:59:16 PM
Many of the nation’s 3.5 million teachers found themselves feeling under siege this week as pressure from the White House, pediatricians and some parents to get back to physical classrooms intensified — even as the coronavirus rages across much of the country. On Friday, the teachers’ union in Los Angeles, the nation’s second-largest district, demanded full-time remote learning when the academic year begins on Aug. 18, and called President Donald Trump’s push to reopen schools part of a “dangerous, anti-science agenda that puts the lives of our members, our students and our families at risk.” Teachers say crucial questions about
Reply 1 - Posted by:
scottj 7/13/2020 9:14:30 PM (No. 477449)
It's time to eliminate government schools. Private schools have an incentive to be good. The better they are the more money they make. Government schools are just the opposite. They have an incentive to be bad. The worse they are the more money they can get.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
philsner 7/13/2020 9:14:48 PM (No. 477450)
So cancel government indoctrination and refund the tax money.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
zuker5 7/13/2020 9:24:32 PM (No. 477455)
So, it’s not about the children then?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
comstock 7/13/2020 9:26:32 PM (No. 477457)
You get paid for 12 months while working for 9 months. You get every weekend off. You get every imaginable holiday off, as well as "curriculum development days, etc." You never have to work overtime or on a weekend.
I attended primary school in the '50s, before teachers unions. I hope Albert Shanker (UFT, then AFT) is roasting wherever he's spending his time these days. Back then we learned reading, writing (Palmer Method, stick pens and inkwells), and arithmetic, including the multiplication tables and use of a slide rule.
And I've been a teacher, albeit at the college level, and the challenges and perks were the same. The current crop of propaganda-spewing snowflakes can all join Shanker, wherever he is.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
droopydog 7/13/2020 9:31:11 PM (No. 477461)
That was always my dilemma before I retired. I didn't want to go in, but I still wanted to get paid.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
pinger 7/13/2020 9:32:31 PM (No. 477463)
All you need to do is look at the source of this article and it automatically can be discarded like the trash that it is. The only teachers out there who "don't want to teach" are the usual D apologists with their usual hands out wanting to be paid for not being there. It's in their DNA.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Butch 7/13/2020 9:36:10 PM (No. 477467)
Don´t want to go back to your job? Then, learn to code.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
judy 7/13/2020 9:40:51 PM (No. 477472)
Government employees & politicians never missed a check....courtesy of the
tax payers....while people lost their businesses....
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 7/13/2020 9:42:12 PM (No. 477473)
But they want to get paid.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
anniebc 7/13/2020 9:42:44 PM (No. 477474)
This strikes me as an article to encourage teachers not to want to go back to work, and they can blame it on fear, pressure, and feeling under siege. Under siege? Seriously? Some parents? Would that be the parents who want to go back to work and get things back to normal? I think that teachers who manage to stay at home until the election will be surprised how fast they go back to work after the election is over. That is unless the democrat states drag things out further by refusing to certify the election.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Turninggrey 7/13/2020 9:44:09 PM (No. 477475)
It's like you look at the headline, and you know who published it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 7/13/2020 9:52:46 PM (No. 477482)
So the lefty educrats and idiot teachers don't want schools to re-open. That would imply they didn't ever have to shut down in the first place. So if they are FORCED to re-open, they will make it so crazy that people will BEG to keep their kids home.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/13/2020 9:54:26 PM (No. 477484)
Fine, give up the paychecks you worthless dimwits. If teachers were measured on results like all workers in the private sector, your annual reviews would receive a big "F" and your annual raises would not be so generous. Stay home, retire. The world will be the same without you.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Nimby 7/13/2020 9:58:19 PM (No. 477487)
Quit and find another job
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Doc1 7/13/2020 9:58:53 PM (No. 477488)
No work. No pay.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 7/13/2020 10:01:59 PM (No. 477494)
Poppycock and balderdash. They have got this handout free lunch thing going for them. If they are on salary-distribution, I can see why they would stay home (money coming in all year). But if they were on school term salary, that would stop over the usual summer months. What to do, What to do? If they are minority teachers, no worries. Only the white teachers have to think about it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
edgar 7/13/2020 10:05:20 PM (No. 477496)
What is the science on children and The Virus? I got my hair cut, they had dividers between the chairs to create work stations. I go to other retail outlets and they have plexiglass screens between the employees and the customers. Healthcare workers wear masks, shields and gowns. I am sure school districts can come up with something to keep teachers visible, yet protected from the (i.e. shields, plexiglass, gowns, etc.).
If all the other essential workers can make it work, so can teachers.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
fayebeck 7/13/2020 10:13:18 PM (No. 477502)
If "teachers" don't work then they should not be allowed to join Antifa.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
padiva 7/13/2020 10:15:41 PM (No. 477505)
30 years ago, the local school district started using the IBM 'Write to Read' program for Pre-1st and 1st grades. It was a logical way to teach phonics.
The use of the program ended within 2 years. It was too hard for the teachers.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
MissMann 7/13/2020 10:24:04 PM (No. 477511)
The joke among teachers is "if it weren't for the kids, this wouldn't be such a bad job!" Looks like they got a taste of "teaching without kids" and don't want to go back...
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
MelRae71 7/13/2020 10:24:41 PM (No. 477512)
I am a public school special education teacher. I want to go back to in-person school, as much as they (government) will allow me. Virtual school only works for the highest achieving and self-disciplined students. Average students will fall behind. Below average and special education students' academic losses may be insurmountable without in-person schooling. I will be cautious, but I am not fearful or angry.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
davew 7/13/2020 10:32:39 PM (No. 477516)
If they would take hydroxychloroquine prophylactically they would be protected and could go back to work just like the health care workers.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
billsv 7/13/2020 10:41:09 PM (No. 477522)
Time for vouchers and charter schools. Get rid of teachers unions. They are only interested in salary increases and benefits not in teaching children o learn.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
PESSIMIST 7/13/2020 10:53:37 PM (No. 477527)
I always hear liberals who advocate abortion say, snippily: "If you oppose abortion, don't have one."
To these teachers: "If you don't want your job, give it up."
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
watashiyo 7/13/2020 11:03:17 PM (No. 477537)
Ever since the public school system got unionized, the quality, the standard, and the moral ethics went down the toilet.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
cThree 7/13/2020 11:03:18 PM (No. 477538)
For years, and years and years, we've had PSAs, saccharine lectures and "memes"—from long before memes were a thing—about how noble, self-sacrificing, selfless, devoted, not to mention professional and always underpaid, teachers were.
Turns out it's not so. They're blubbering about how awful Trump is, and they're all gonna die and whatever.
I'm not real good with blubbering.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/13/2020 11:34:27 PM (No. 477549)
If you dont want to go back, retire, or try to set up charter schools, especially if you're tired of the crap public schools feed their students.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
DVC 7/13/2020 11:36:10 PM (No. 477551)
They like sitting on their butts doing nothing and getting paid.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
john56 7/13/2020 11:43:02 PM (No. 477556)
But be sure to send my paycheck to my house every month.
-- The "fearful" teachers and their union bosses.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
SALady 7/14/2020 12:04:50 AM (No. 477562)
For years, I worked at different jobs. If I didn't like my job, or didn't feel like going, I went anyway. If I hated my boss, I went anyway. If I really, really didn't want to do that job, I quit and found another job (though I was usually smart enough to find a new job and then resign).
Doctors and nurses have been working non-stop through this whole pandemic. Mailmen have brought the mail every day. The cashier at Wal-Mart has been there through it all (well, until they fired her and replaced her with a self-checkout kiosk).
You have been off since spring break. If you don't want to work, quit and find something else. If it's good enough for the mailman, you will live!!!
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 7/14/2020 12:41:10 AM (No. 477575)
You are fired...as President Regan said to the air traffic controllers! Now, send the money to private schools as a no strings grant!
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Kind of like Congress. Work part time while we pay them for full time. Time to reduce my school taxes.
Don't want to go back ? Not getting paid enough ? Don't let the door hit you on the way to resign.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Trigger2 7/14/2020 3:12:00 AM (No. 477616)
No, they'd rather stay home doing nothing while collecting their unearned paycheck. Districts should furlough them all.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
stablemoney 7/14/2020 3:50:22 AM (No. 477633)
I am fine with the teachers not coming back. But we are still paying them, so let's stop doing that.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
bgarrett 7/14/2020 7:20:34 AM (No. 477706)
fearful and angry=lazy
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 7/14/2020 7:48:36 AM (No. 477730)
The NYT is veering into hilarious parody. As the coronavirus continues to “rage” across the country? Spare me.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
mizzmac 7/14/2020 7:52:53 AM (No. 477734)
If they don't want to do their jobs, they need to quit. No work = no pay in the real world. Welcome to it, teachers.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
TXknitter 7/14/2020 8:53:40 AM (No. 477789)
This may be the NYT but sorry, this is the attitude of too many teachers. The government schools haven’t been putting children first for a LONG time. Too many honest retired teachers will tell you that. My state has no teacher unions yet same liberalism prevails here - big schools and rural ranching areas. Denmark, Sweden, Japan and even Germany haven’t even used children as political covid pawns like what is happening here. They did not use the same goofy scientific models our corrupt CDC talked our President into and they are doing very well.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/14/2020 9:03:09 AM (No. 477799)
Are you Teachers or political hacks?
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
udanja99 7/14/2020 1:50:14 PM (No. 478126)
It’s not fear. It’s being able to sit home and watch Netflix while being paid $600 per week.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
BigGeorgeTX 7/14/2020 3:27:20 PM (No. 478235)
Fine, don't get paid then. No relief from taxpayers!!!
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
or gate 7/14/2020 6:47:49 PM (No. 478410)
Why should Teachers be upset?
The minorities run the class rooms.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
doctorfixit 7/14/2020 11:52:05 PM (No. 478610)
De-fund government schools, colleges and universities. Purge the communists. Privatize, homeschool.
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It's your blankety-blank job! How many grocery store workers, cops, firemen, trashmen, and doctors would also like to stay home?!? You don't get to take 2 years off and cower in the corner.