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Hilton calls for education tax refund if schools don't reopen: 'Why should you pay for service you are not getting?'

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Posted By: FlyRight, 7/13/2020 4:10:13 AM

The Next Revolution" host Steve Hilton suggested on his show Sunday that parents should receive education tax dollar refunds if schools stay shuttered in the fall. "We believe in decentralization on this show and we believe above all in people power," Hilton said during his opening monologue. "It is time to use it over this school fiasco. If your child's school won't open in the fall, demand your money back so you can find an alternative. It is your child, your tax dollars. Why should you pay for service you are not getting?" DEVOS VOWS TO REOPEN SCHOOLS IN FALL

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Reply 1 - Posted by: KatieJo 7/13/2020 4:42:03 AM (No. 476491)
I agree with this and have been angry about it for many years. What about those of us who never had children, those who send their children to private school or home school? There is no "opt out" of paying taxes to indoctrinate other people's children.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: planetgeo 7/13/2020 4:50:04 AM (No. 476498)
Don't stop there. Give us our tax money back for ANY public service that stays closed. Why pay bureaucrats for just sitting at home?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hotcorner 7/13/2020 5:00:08 AM (No. 476499)
It has become visibly clear how much government can be cut during this pandemic. But it is not to cut law enforcement. Privatize the schools - they produced morons the past 25 years.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: TruthFetish 7/13/2020 5:46:38 AM (No. 476504)
#3 Privatize law enforcement along with it. Can't think of any reason why four or five quality security companies shouldn't compete with each other for the privilege of protecting me and getting paid to do it. Meanwhile, police unions negotiating with municipalities for my taxes is like the lion, the wolf and the sheep discussing dinner plans.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 7/13/2020 6:27:43 AM (No. 476517)
During levy campaigns and especially during strikes (remember Wisconsin's teacher's union demise?), so-called educators will drown us in treacle. 'We love our kids' (they're not your kids, friend) and so forth. It's cloying, it's fake, it's the usual emotionalism from people incapable of rational thought (and who have charge of young people for 13 years). The virus has put paid to all that. Teachers are content to sit on their backsides and collect full pay and benefits indefinitely. They know this slipshod distance learning is a farce but since they aren't being evaluated on it they care not a whit nor do they try to improve it. They're all for the equivalent of snow days from now until the sun actually freezes over. One of the biggest problem with government schools is that they employ and involve so many suburbanites and/or Republicans, especially females. Anything involving kids gets good PR automatically and the teachers milk it for all its worth with the apple iconography and sloganeering. They may look askance at the UAW or SEIU but teachers are the 'good union' despite being just as corrupt and destructive as the rest. I can't count the number of relatives employed by schools or boards in some way. I have yet to hear one of them talk about academics, achievement, curriculum or testing. All I hear are discussions of bidding on jobs (ie abandoning their post), finding ways to game the seniority system, double-dipping after retirement and benefits benefits benefits.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mekkkk 7/13/2020 6:54:17 AM (No. 476537)
Very good point
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Reply 7 - Posted by: FunOne 7/13/2020 6:57:03 AM (No. 476539)
This should be obvious. Personally, I was employed as a camp administrator for the Boy Scouts. The camp I was to run in New York was not allowed to open because the Governor Cuomo decreed that no overnight youth camps wold be permitted this season. As such, I was terminated. Fair enough. I would not want to be paid to perform a job that I, in fact, was not able to do. Not my fault, not my employers fault. No reason to keep sending me a pay check when I am not delivering what my employer expected. I think it is fair to apply the same standard to those expected to deliver the total educational package to the taxpayers.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rather Read 7/13/2020 7:20:20 AM (No. 476554)
My daughter and her family got a 500 check from the city schools since they were out for several months for the covid. This had something to do with the meal program that they didn't use. My daughter was happy about it and went to Aldi's to stock up the pantry and freezer.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 7/13/2020 7:20:55 AM (No. 476556)
Teachers unions are about the adults, not the students. Until they have no pay, they will sit out. All federal funds need to stop if schools will not reopen. If local taxpayers want to pay their teachers to stay home, they can do that.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Strike3 7/13/2020 7:46:32 AM (No. 476571)
It's for the children. No, wait, it's for the democrats, the teachers unions and the teachers.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kafka2 7/13/2020 7:51:21 AM (No. 476576)
The original reason taxing everybody to pay for educating the young was that giving them the education to function productively in society was beneficial to all. Thus, reading, writing and arithmetic were taught. Later, civics and history were added, When this was the curriculum, the schools turned out functional citizens. Today, the public schools do a poor job of teaching reading, writing and arithmetic. And, civics and history have been replaced with indoctrination in "Progressive" dogma and "Culture Cancellation." This does not produce functional and productive citizens of society. Public funding of the public schools is no longer justified. Since the educators unions are demanding higher pay for doing a poor job or nothing, now would be a good time to consider de-funding public schools.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Lawsy0 7/13/2020 7:53:03 AM (No. 476582)
Agree with #1. How is this fair; it's like all of us having to pay for birth control for the terminally stupid? Oh it is sweet to dream, but you know that once a tax is established, it is forever engraved in stone.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: fayebeck 7/13/2020 8:02:41 AM (No. 476594)
I seemed to have heard many times that anything wrong in the "education" scam is the "parents fault".
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Reply 14 - Posted by: HotRod 7/13/2020 8:12:20 AM (No. 476608)
I agree. Also, any cuts to police should be refunded to taxpayers. Th refunds can be used to help finance relocation.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Namma 7/13/2020 8:19:57 AM (No. 476622)
Hilton is correct. Give the taxpayers their money back. Same with nasty Nancy canceling House sessions. Give us our money back. They are not doing their jobs.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: udanja99 7/13/2020 8:38:52 AM (No. 476639)
Right there with you, #1. Our daughter attended Catholic school through 8th grade. Getting her to the school and back every day was 50 miles round trip and not only were we forced to pay for local public schools, we got no assistance at all for our daughter’s education. I made her lunch every day and she carried it to school. I opted to quit my job and be a stay at home mom, so it was 8 years of financial struggle.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: iSpartacus 7/13/2020 8:40:55 AM (No. 476642)
Defund all public schools and fire the teachers.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: msjena 7/13/2020 8:41:03 AM (No. 476643)
Why should teachers get paid for not showing up?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: NorthernDog 7/13/2020 8:48:18 AM (No. 476653)
As others have said, same as other government services. Our public libraries are still closed but getting paid. For some reason police, firemen, and EMT must be immune to the virus because they have been up and running the whole time without as much as one day off.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: TheLadyNextDoor 7/13/2020 8:53:01 AM (No. 476660)
#15 - very salient and to the point!!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: starboard 7/13/2020 10:16:36 AM (No. 476737)
Agree. There should be compensation or tax credit. First thing to do is abolish the Teachers Union and give parents more control. Of course that won't happen. Lets face it, the only reason the Dems pander to the teachers union is for votes and money. They don't care about the education of the child. It's the same with Black Americans. They've been used and not respected by the Dems for many years with empty hope and promises not kept.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: GO3 7/13/2020 10:23:53 AM (No. 476752)
Hilton is right. Even before the Covid restrictions I have said revoke all truancy laws and return that portion of property taxes to the citizens. If you don't care enough about educating your kid then don't expect a free babysitting and meal service. The property tax money returned/saved is up to your discretion on how to spend it. Don't want to write a check to the school? Fine, keep your kid at home, on the street corner or where ever. At least the other kids can learn without disruptive influences.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MDConservative 7/13/2020 10:27:39 AM (No. 476758)
This really represents an opportunity for those who want to break the public school near-monopoly. Whether home schooling, on-line schooling, or private and parochial, this is the time to promote and concurrently start dealing with the fact that public schools need gross reform, if not dissolution. They are grossly "overpriced" and the product, especially in urban areas, failing its customers. Worse, they have become leftist incubators...and that is the result of parents demanding they teach "values".
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Reply 24 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 7/13/2020 10:41:45 AM (No. 476780)
The same thing every homeschool parent has been asking for years.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: LadyHen 7/13/2020 11:03:58 AM (No. 476811)
We homeschool. So yes, why should we pay? Also, why is it if I work at a place with a union, I do not have to join and contribute but I have to contribute to the crazy progressive teachers union through my tax dollars? The teachers union needs to end!!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Arby 7/13/2020 11:35:49 AM (No. 476859)
How about a refund from Harvard. Online education is available from a host of for-profits. The people doing the Harvard 'educating' will mostly be grad students. Do the Ldotters know that 2/3 of the instruction at Berkeley is done by non-tenure-track faculty? You're paying for 'brand' kiddos. Unless you see the famous scholar at the front of the room you're buying a debased product. On the other hand, if you just put up classic texts and documents online you'd probably be getting a better product than the usual, contemporary indoctrination.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: DVC 7/13/2020 11:41:53 AM (No. 476872)
Yep. At MINIMUIM, give the parents the right to apply that money to ANY SCHOOL THEY CHOOSE.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Are You Serious 7/13/2020 12:42:39 PM (No. 476933)
This is a perfectly sensible approach, especially in states like NJ where property taxes to support a bloated, inefficient school system are so intolerably high. Of course, NJ voters, in their infinite stupidity, continue to elect Democrats to run the state.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: franq 7/13/2020 6:23:02 PM (No. 477238)
Wife informed me that an MD from our church posted a proposed solution on FB. Basically have all schools take a year sabbatical. Good grief, that's playing right into their hand.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 7/13/2020 7:51:33 PM (No. 477371)
I started teaching/counseling in 1979. There were a few good ones 40 years ago. I quickly realized there was something strange something weird something socialist something commie about these so called “educators” in the system. By 2005, it was time to separate from this “system” that was so damn dirty with creepy types who weren’t the same folks I worked with in the 79’s because they all had an agenda, a narrative, lije radical “group-think” minds full of mush....no room for differing opinions, or what they falsely called “diversity” Diversity of skin color—-YES Diversity of thought?—No No Never Never The little Marxist bastids overtook our schools I may be 71 but if you handed me back my M16 and said “it’s on”.. I know where I’d go first!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 7/13/2020 7:54:20 PM (No. 477374)
“in the 80’s”...not 79’s
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Reply 32 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 7/14/2020 4:08:12 AM (No. 477640)
Think about how much money they are saving by not running school buses and buying gas. Money saved on electricity, heat and AC. In FL those on the free lunch program received over $300 extra per child in food assistance even though they are still passing out free food at schools. If they weren't on food assistance, they hunt them down to be sure they receive EBT. That's a lot of cafeteria savings.
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