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'It's egregious': thousands
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rejected over small errors

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Posted By: Ribicon, 7/8/2020 12:59:55 PM

Rosalie Weisfeld doesn’t skip elections–she just doesn’t. The 64-year-old lives in McAllen, near the Texas-Mexico border, and she votes in the contests that a lot of people sit out–races for school board, water district and local runoffs. In the more than 40 years she’s been registered to vote, Weisfeld only remembers missing one election.(Snip) More than a month later, Weisfeld got a letter back saying election officials had rejected her ballot. They examined the signature Weisfeld put on the ballot, compared it to one they had on file, and determined they weren’t from the same person.

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Small error? The ballot was rightly rejected because the signatures are wildly different (see the images), even to the untrained eye, probably as part of a dry run to see how much fraud they can perpetrate. And now she's filing a lawsuit. We need in-person voting with purple thumbs. Tell the communists who are trying to steal the election that this is the only way right-wing radicals won't reject their votes; they'll have no response.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Starboard_side 7/8/2020 1:17:58 PM (No. 471379)
I would suggest that every ballot is assigned a tracking number linked to the address on the registration card and the signature on that card. That number is on every ballot and envelope too. So, if your dead parent, uncle, grandparent, ends up being counted (by accident, of course) then it can be quickly subtracted. Same if someone doesn't realize their ballot was submitted, but they aren't a citizen, or eligible to vote, and they don't want to be penalized for voting which could jeopardize their chance for becoming a U.S. citizen. Then, and only after the election officials have accounted for EVERY ballot that was sent out, can the election be certified. People can determine if their ballot was actually received. Heck, could even use a bar code, so it's scanned by the post office, and official government agency which would be the determining factor if it was post-marked by the end of the election period.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: NorthernDog 7/8/2020 1:23:53 PM (No. 471386)
No matter what rules are agreed to the Democrats will scream 'unfair' if their candidate loses. Counting ballots not mailed until election day is a open invitation to fraud.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hershey 7/8/2020 1:34:31 PM (No. 471390)
This is bull pucky...I never get exactly the same signature, ever...time to change election rules....ONE day, NO mail ins, NO harvesting (helping people vote), NO early voting, physical presence required with a VALID photo ID, NO absentee unless in hospital with a written Doctors statement that you can't get out to vote, PURPLE thumb to prove you voted instead of those stupid stick on pasties...if a democrap can steal an election, they will try...and then squeal 'there's NO voter fraud'....yeah, sure, and pigs fly...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 7/8/2020 1:36:24 PM (No. 471392)
I enlarged the images. Her first name appeared to be about the same. Close enough. The surnames were “wildly different”, as OP says. Knowing how our relative’s handwriting deteriorated after a stroke, I wonder what happens when that happens. Even my signature is not exactly as it was in other times.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird 7/8/2020 1:38:27 PM (No. 471396)
As I recall, our mail in ballots did have tracking numbers. Will have to check files to see if I kept anything to indicate that.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rama41 7/8/2020 1:45:48 PM (No. 471402)
In Pennsylvania, you can login and check to see if the county has accepted your ballot. If it doesn't show up, you can vote provisionally in person. Not that I'm a defender of the mail in ballot: I still don't like my party registration on the envelope for all to see.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: GoodDeal 7/8/2020 2:03:02 PM (No. 471419)
Of course, they will be rejected if the vote is cast for a Republican.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: john56 7/8/2020 2:25:38 PM (No. 471437)
This is South Texas. The highest precincts for vote turnout include cemetaries. And the dead folks always show up to vote. I remember drinking in a bar in Laredo, Texas one night many years ago and the guy sitting next to me said how much he looks forward to election day because he hopes some day he'll see his grandma. She died 20 years before, but she always shows up to vote in the Democrat primary.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 7/8/2020 2:26:29 PM (No. 471438)
The Guradian is a Brit Communist paper, so I won't bother reading much. I presume that they are concerned that "minor errors" like being dead, the citizen of a country other than the USA, or voting 16 yimes are what they are worried about getting tossed out. NO VOTING BY MAIL. NONE. The fraud will endless, adding in thousands of phony ballots and rejecting millions of legitimate ones.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Bramaw 7/8/2020 2:49:04 PM (No. 471468)
I spent a few election years verifying signatures the "machine" rejected. 2-person team from different parties. Some were obvious; some were not. We would go back and pull up old signatures to compare. We would look at age and consider deterioration. If we could not agree, it would go to a committee. I agree the first name looks the same, it's the second name that looks totally different. Maybe she signed her first name and whoever put it in the envelope noticed it missing and added the last name. Probably totally innocent but picked up electronically and rejected. I think at the end of the whole process, the individual is contacted and given the opportunity to correct the signature (at least the county I worked).
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Lawsy0 7/8/2020 3:00:25 PM (No. 471477)
Wow. The Guardian has enough time and resources to give a fig about things which trouble the US--namely stolen ballots and failed voting. Still and all, I will vote in person or I will refuse to vote. I have voted every year for the last 60, and proudly, in all kinds of weather. Like Mrs. Weisfeld I'd have to be near death to miss even a tiny little local election. This year's school board could be next year's city council. Vote. You have nobody to blame but yourself if you do not.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: learner 7/8/2020 3:09:36 PM (No. 471485)
Laredo is less than 100 miles from Alice Texas where the mysterious Box 13 was found 6 days after the election during a recount that gave LBJ the victory for the senate. Out of 202 ballots in the box 200 were for LBJ which gave him an 87 ballot victory out of 1 million cast. Strange things tend to happen with ballots out there in West Texas.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Miceal 7/8/2020 3:18:12 PM (No. 471496)
No, what's "egregious" is there are THOUSANDS of mail in ballots. Absentee ballots with documented good reasons, NO mail in ballots, and serious repercussions for voter fraud of any stripe...
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Axeman 7/8/2020 3:43:37 PM (No. 471508)
Some points which make mail-in ballots unworkable. What proof that the person getting the ballot is legally eligible to use it? What proof that the person who voted the ballot is the person who it was meant for? What proof that the person only voted once, and not under other names? What proof that the person did not vote in different localities? How is the vote kept anonymous? Solve all of these and I will be 100% in favor of mail-in ballots.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: tyshab 7/8/2020 3:52:20 PM (No. 471517)
Absentee ballots should be accepted, however, the latest scheme is not handled the same as absentee ballots. To obtain an absentee ballot it must be requested with signature and some type proof of identity. The current mail in ballot process is set up to mail a ballot to every person on a voter roll. The majority of voter rolls are not maintained. People who have died, moved, married and vote under different name, away at college and voting in that locality now, are rarely cleaned from the voter rolls. One of the jobs of the board of elections is suppose to be maintaining an accurate record, however every state has different rules as to how they will do this process.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: czechlist 7/8/2020 5:18:13 PM (No. 471559)
I always hear get out and vote because every vote counts! It reminds me of landslide Lyndon Johnson who won a dim primary by a few votes with a large number of those ballots questioned. He went on to be President, a lousy one. Had he not won that primary we may have been spared the Vietnam war and the welfare state. Yep, every vote counts even the fraudulent ones!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: HotRod 7/8/2020 5:20:43 PM (No. 471564)
There is a place for mail-in voting, called an absentee ballot. They are for people who cannot, for legitimate reasons, vote in person. They must be tightly controlled and accounted for. The current movement for mail-in ballots is an effort to further corrupt elections by the democrats. What happens when two ballots for the same person are received? Do they both get thrown out? If they are for the same candidate, are they both counted? Too many ways for fraud. Mail-in voting would be a disaster for America!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Muguy 7/8/2020 5:27:44 PM (No. 471572)
There are very strict rules on certifying mail-in ballots in Texas. I KNOW, because I sit on one of those ballot boards and oversee the process along with several other persons from BOTH parties. There is a checklist of items that have to be verified, and each passing each step is a protection AGAINST voter fraud with mail-in ballots. Once all the steps are okayed, the ballot is counted. This group meets on the Monday after the Tuesday election. Those ballots which do not pass all the steps generate a letter to the voter expressing the discrepancy. The demonrats have attempted to circumvent Texas Election Law by trying to get mail-in ballots sent out to ANYONE for ANY reason due to the mere threat of catching Covid. Voting in now VERY SAFE and contactless-- people can even vote "curbside" if they wish from their cars!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 7/8/2020 6:22:32 PM (No. 471618)
Small errors like not being alive or having citizenship elsewhere?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Right Time 7/8/2020 7:18:16 PM (No. 471681)
There certainly were egregious errors! Only ballots from Republican voters are supposed to be rejected!
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Reply 21 - Posted by: smokincol 7/8/2020 7:54:51 PM (No. 471724)
among josef stalin's more memorable quotes:: "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." applicable in this instance.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: franq 7/9/2020 5:54:07 AM (No. 472018)
This election will make the "hanging chad" investigation look like a Sunday School picnic.
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