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Mandatory vaccination for coronavirus gains
support from ’civil libertarian’ Alan Dershowitz

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Posted By: ladydawgfan, 5/21/2020 4:44:52 PM

The media, computer modelers, epidemiologists, and the censors keeping dissenting views off of social media have succeeded in terrifying much of the political class and the American public into accepting far-reaching suspensions of civil liberties in the name of suppressing the spread of a Covid-19, a highly communicable flu strain whose lethality principally affects the elderly and those with comorbidities. At the moment it is an open question whether the lockdown ”cure” will end up being more lethal than the disease. Last week, American Thinker took some flak, including from some conservatives for publishing Peter Barry Chowka’s warning, “Mandatory coronavirus vaccination looming on the horizon.”

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Sorry, Dersh, but remember "my body, my choice??" Still stands, even for Kung Flu vaccines!!

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Reply 1 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/21/2020 4:47:34 PM (No. 418070)
No thanks Jackweed, I have NO USE for Vaccines that typically have bad stuff like Thimerosal in it to 'preserve freshness'. Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes.Feb 1, 2018. Right, Putting MERCURY right into your body, WHAT could possibly GO WORNG?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: marbles 5/21/2020 4:57:22 PM (No. 418078)
Going to force people to get vaccinated? FORCE ? That will not end well.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mc squared 5/21/2020 4:58:00 PM (No. 418079)
Like HELL I will. Poster one is correct. A rushed drug to be tested on public guinea pigs isn't a sound idea. Give it to the people who are alone in their cars with a mask on. They'll jump for it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 5/21/2020 4:59:08 PM (No. 418080)
To prove you were vaccinated - - they will tattoo a number on your forearm. If the Vaccination Police stop you - - just show them your tattoo - - and you won't be sent to a re-education camp. Works for me!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 5/21/2020 5:07:25 PM (No. 418088)
I am not in favor of mandatory anything. But, once there is a well tested vaccine.....I'll happily take it, like have taken dozens and dozens of others in my long, healthy life. I have traveled extensively and that has required lots of vaccination, far more than the limited numbers required in the USA. Go to India, go to central Asia.....you have to be crazy not to have a bunch of vaccinations. And I have taken the pneumonia and shingles vaccinations in the last couple of years and flu vaccinations every year for at least 12 years, probably longer. Anti-vaxxers are nutcases. People who don't like being told what they have to do, get some sympathy.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: stablemoney 5/21/2020 5:15:15 PM (No. 418096)
Every person has a little bit different biology and situation. I think your vaccinations should be discussed with your doctor, not Alan Dershowitz, who does not have a medical license, and I doubt could get one.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: JubilationTCornpone 5/21/2020 5:15:46 PM (No. 418097)
I first want to see Dershowitz, Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci get vaccinated on live TV.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: davew 5/21/2020 5:21:46 PM (No. 418106)
Dershowitz' argument is based on a fundamental legal principle. It's the same reason you don't have a right to drive through a red light without stopping. Even though stopping might cost you time and gas and restrict your freedom everyone agrees to stop at the light because it protects others from being hit by other cars at an intersection. You can't literally be tied down and injected with a vaccine against your will but you must show that your freedom to not to be vaccinated does not put me or my grandma at risk from you spreading a dangerous disease that could harm or kill us. If you are responsible and get tested or socially distance yourself when you get sick the rest of us don't have a problem. The probability of most people being this responsible is close to zero. Hence, we need a stick (law) to go with the carrot (vaccines actually protect you and us). Based on the number of people I see flying through stop signs and red lights everyday in my own neighborhood I'm not optimistic that any law would actually work for everyone but it might make enough people get vaccinated to protect the world from the "outliers" that just don't want to get with the program.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Nimby 5/21/2020 5:22:34 PM (No. 418107)
We will cross the bridge when we come to it. As of now, there is NO AVAILABLE VACCINE
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Reply 10 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/21/2020 5:34:55 PM (No. 418119)
The Wolf-man here in PA says no normal till there is a fool-proof vaccine. I think we may be headed to massive civil disobedience followed by a forced evacuation of that political office, as he seems to think he is GOD. There has never been a 'perfect' vaccine for anything. On top of that we just had a judge down in Philadelphia plead guilty to massive election fraud in 2014, 2015 and 2016, both adding fraudulent ballots and then using his position to validate said ballots. I personally wouldn't object to Trump activating the National Guard at this point or in the near future to arrest this contemptible twit and charge him with murder (2/3 of PA covid deaths are from Nursing homes stuffed on his order with active Covid cases) and Abuse of Power, malfeasence in office, violation of Federal Laws... The list is getting mighty long.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: franq 5/21/2020 5:39:11 PM (No. 418124)
The camel is not sticking his nose under the tent, he's barging in tail-first.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Catfur27 5/21/2020 5:49:09 PM (No. 418128)
..."Smart" guys in Germany like Dersh probably though getting tattooed arms in 1940 was ok too. ...My Rights don't end where someone else's bed-wetting fears begin.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Time4AR2 5/21/2020 5:59:49 PM (No. 418132)
Saw this in 1976:"The rationale for mass vaccination seemed to stem from only the barest of biological reasoning — it turned out that the flu wasn’t even related to the virus that caused the grisly 1918 epidemic and, indeed, those who were infected with the flu only suffered from a mild illness while the vaccine, for the reasons stated above, resulted in over four-hundred and fifty people developing the paralyzing Guillain-Barré syndrome. Meanwhile, outside the United States’ borders, the flu never mushroomed into the anticipated public health disaster. It was the pandemic that never was. The New York Times went so far as to dub the whole affair a “fiasco,” damning one of the largest and probably one of the most well-intentioned public health initiatives by the US government (1)." https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-public-health-legacy-of-the-1976-swine-flu-outbreak Read the article.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/21/2020 5:59:49 PM (No. 418133)
I watched a replay of Dershowitz flapping his gums about this so-called mandatory vaccination. His touted intelligence was not evident in his reasoning. Also, it is unlikely he has read the Book containing the information about the danger of taking such an implant. I'll just tell him good bye now because I probably won't get the chance to warn him further.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Namma 5/21/2020 6:00:02 PM (No. 418134)
will the illgals and those that dont vaccinate their kids against polio, small pox, Whooping cough etc. have to be vaccinated? Them first
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Reply 16 - Posted by: GoodDeal 5/21/2020 6:06:38 PM (No. 418139)
What going to be mandatory is they can kiss my arse.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 5/21/2020 6:07:19 PM (No. 418140)
No, they WON'T be vaccinated #15, and THAT is why I want to be vaccinated to protect ME from all the irresponsible anti-vaxxers and third world illegals running around who will be carrying it.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: udanja99 5/21/2020 6:10:14 PM (No. 418143)
If we can refuse medical care in a hospital, we can refuse to be vaccinated. Right to privacy, just like Justice Blackmun said.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: udanja99 5/21/2020 6:14:57 PM (No. 418144)
#8, how do you square grandma being harmed by you not getting vaccinated as a matter of freedom when over a million babies are murdered via abortion every year as a matter of freedom for the mother? Abortion is the ultimate harm.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 5/21/2020 6:26:04 PM (No. 418149)
Thiomersal would be the least of the bad things in the Gates-Fauci 'vaccine'. And the only way I'd get it is if they injected it into my corpse. I'm one of those stupid, evil, socially irresponsible 'anti-vaxxer' fools. Oh, I dutifully got injected with every dang thing they said I needed until I was 25. I drew the line in 1975 when the rushed to market swine flu vaccine killed or debilitated so many people, and I refused it even risking court martial (I was in the military at the time, but being in an elite unit and the only one who could do my job, they decided to let me slide, as long as I didn't tell the other guys ) . Prior to that I was down with a bad flu 3-5 times a year. Haven't has a flu shot since 1974. Since then, I MAY have had the flu one time, back in 1997; but I think it was probably just a bad cold.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: The Remnants 5/21/2020 6:26:40 PM (No. 418150)
And who is Alan Dershowitz?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 5/21/2020 6:30:54 PM (No. 418156)
Hey Professor Dershowitz, if we decide not to get the COVID-19 vaccine, do we have to wear a yellow C19 patch? Just asking. If yes, I will wear it proudly.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: smcchk 5/21/2020 6:31:47 PM (No. 418158)
Been thinking this is why the hysteria against Hydroxychloriquine - who wants a cheap treatment when they can force a vaccine on people?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: 67cj5 5/21/2020 6:38:40 PM (No. 418162)
Forced to take it doesn't necessarily mean tying you down and injecting you. It could mean you cannot enter a building such as a government building or grocery store unless you have been vaccinated, you cannot socially mingle with others you, cannot renew your drivers license, etc,etc,etc. My goodness look at the way people are freaking out about masks, just imagine what these people will do if they find out that you haven't been vaccinated.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: LadyHen 5/21/2020 6:57:49 PM (No. 418170)
I too do not like being forced to do anything BUT if my doc, whom I trust, recommends I get it, I'm okay with that. He would not hurt me. I know that. I get a flu vaccine every year and don't get the flu. I have traveled and had many vaccines without issue.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: RuckusTom 5/21/2020 7:35:06 PM (No. 418193)
The "Lolita Express" Alan Dershowitz? The Jeffrey Epstein buddy Alan Dershowitz? The democrat who can't decide if he's a republican Alan Dershowitz? That Alan Dershowitz?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Ebuilder 5/21/2020 7:55:55 PM (No. 418206)
According to Dr. Chuck Missler ["Transhumanism"], they now have vaccines that can even target a particular race of people. There are converging technologies -- robotics, microbiology-genome science, nanotechnology ["machines" at the molecular level], and AI/ artificial intelligence -- that are coming soon, and also able to be weaponized. Ray Kurzwell's "singularity" point -- when computers are smarter than men -- should also be reached in a few years. Do not entertain that "Mandatory Vaccines to Save Mankind"-crap. But many will.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: chumley 5/21/2020 8:04:45 PM (No. 418214)
When you advocate for forcing someone to get a vaccination against their will, you are a bad American, and you do not understand what freedom is. But please, resume telling me what my rights aren't.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Right Time 5/21/2020 8:05:08 PM (No. 418215)
I'm 69 years old, and never thought I would say this, but..... I absolutely do NOT trust what the government would be putting in my arm They can KMA
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Reply 30 - Posted by: agrunt 5/21/2020 8:11:44 PM (No. 418217)
The case he is talking about concerns smallpox. The mortality rates between smallpox and C-19 are as different as night and day. Further a lot of people will balk at any new vaccine because it is in a hurry-up development when viewed with the extremely low death rate from C-19.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Strike3 5/21/2020 8:52:33 PM (No. 418242)
These people are welcome to stop by my house and I guarantee that my mandatory injection will be a bit more effective than theirs.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: DVC 5/21/2020 9:21:09 PM (No. 418260)
Lots of tin foil hats on way too tight .
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Calamity Kate 5/21/2020 9:30:33 PM (No. 418265)
#8, respectfully -- let your grandma get the vaccine instead if you're so concerned about her health. Quit telling the rest of us what we SHOULD put into out bodies.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: anniebc 5/21/2020 9:51:16 PM (No. 418278)
So, is anybody surprised? Oh yeah, those who thought it a big deal that Alan was against impeachment. That lasted long.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: cor-vet 5/21/2020 9:52:23 PM (No. 418280)
After every liberal, every SJW, all LSM journalists and all the scientists that the left says we should trust, have had the injection and nothings changed in a year, come talk to me. Poster #7- Do you think those three will be getting the same shot you'll be getting?
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Reply 36 - Posted by: MuncsSister 5/21/2020 10:17:35 PM (No. 418300)
Why do health people under the age of 80 need a vaccine for something that has a 99.9% survival rate?
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Reply 37 - Posted by: saildreamer 5/21/2020 11:59:07 PM (No. 418361)
Dershowitz says that I need to get the vaccine because if I don’t then I am putting others at risk. Well I’m not putting people who get the vaccine at risk. I’m only putting at risk those who also chose not to get the vaccine. They are willing to accept the risk as am I so what is the problem?
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Trigger2 5/22/2020 1:42:03 AM (No. 418407)
If this vaccination becomes mandatory by the DC sewer scum, I'm going to do what I did when I was a kid - find some Pig Pen and hide in it or else work myself into a big burdock patch. Both worked before.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: franq 5/22/2020 6:04:49 AM (No. 418479)
One step closer to The Mark. Or maybe it is The Mark. Perfect scenario... in fact, you're a bad person if you don't get it.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Sunhan65 5/22/2020 8:47:13 AM (No. 418613)
What #36 said. This disease is an immanent danger to relatively small and easily-identifiable segments of the population. I'm three of them: fat, old, and diabetic. (When I asked my doctor for a second opinion, he said I was ugly too.) They (we) needed to worry. They (we) needed to think seriously about quarantining ourselves while the disease played out harmlessly among the healthy population. And, if we are being really serious, they (we) should indeed get vaccinated because we are the ones at risk. Once vaccines are readily available, all those who are worried may choose to get vaccinated in order to protect themselves. Those who do not get vaccinated assume the risk of that decision, with the understanding that others may also choose likewise and increase the risk to you. But you do not get to choose to protect me, and I categorically reject any attempt to protect me from myself. I've had three months of people telling me what I need to do to keep myself safe, and I've had enough. We could have responded rationally to the minimal threat posed by this disease to society as a whole by quarantining the ill and elderly while herd immunity built up amongst the healthy. Instead, we have listened to insane recommendations from idiotic "experts" who have now perpetrated the biggest experiment in medical malpractice in human history. We have destroyed our entire village in order to save the sickly village elder. This madness must stop.
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Former Vice President Joe Biden expressed regret Friday for decreeing that African-Americans aren’t really black if they have trouble deciding to support him over President Donald Trump, saying he’s “never” taken the black community’s vote for granted and “shouldn’t have been such a wise guy.”“I should not have been so cavalier. I’ve never, never, ever taken the African American community for granted,” Biden said during a call with black business leaders, according to CBS News reporter Ed O’Keefe.“I shouldn’t have been such a wise guy,” he added.”I shouldn’t have been so cavalier. No one should have to vote for any party based on their race, their religion, their background.”
Watch: Biden: ‘If You Have A Problem
Figuring Out Whether You’re For Me
Or Trump, Then You Ain’t Black’
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Posted by Imright 5/22/2020 10:42:06 AM Post Reply
During an at-times tense interview with popular African-American commentator and radio host Charlamagne the God on Friday, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden defended his record on racial issues and declared when told that the host had “more questions” for him, “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”The interview, which aired on “The Breakfast Club” Friday, began with the host telling Biden bluntly, “You know, I’ve been critical of you.”“I know you have,” Biden interjected before Charlamagne could finish hi
Biden asks Amy Klobuchar to undergo
vetting as possible running mate
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Posted by voxpopuli 5/22/2020 11:17:51 AM Post Reply
Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves. In an interview with Stephen Colbert on Thursday night, Biden said "no one's been vetted yet by the team" but confirmed the initial preliminary outreach to gauge interest is "coming to an end now." Biden said the "invasive" vetting process will soon begin.
‘Insulting, demeaning, racist’: Biden steps in
it bigtime when he says ‘you ain’t black’ if you
consider vote for Trump
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Posted by ladydawgfan 5/22/2020 1:26:25 PM Post Reply
During a radio show interview Thursday, presumptive Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden told a black radio host that he “ain’t black” if he’s still mulling over who to vote for in the upcoming 2020 general election. The stunning remarks triggered outrage from a spate of black Americans already disgusted by the Democrat Party taking their votes for granted. The remarks were made during the tail end of Biden’s interview with Charlamagne tha God, the co-host of the “The Breakfast Club” radio show. Listen (disable your adblocker if the video doesn’t appear): [video] The clip above began with the former VP’s aide telling Charlamagne, “That’s really our time. I apologize.”
Fauci says extended stay-home orders
could cause ‘irreparable damage’
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Posted by Harlowe 5/23/2020 12:47:14 AM Post Reply
Stay-home orders that extend too long could cause the U.S. “irreparable damage,” Dr. Anthony Fauci warned Friday. Strict crackdowns on large gatherings and other orders, such as for home quarantines, were needed when the coronavirus first hit the nation, but those rules can now begin to be lifted in many parts of the country, Fauci said during an interview on CNBC. “I don’t want people to think that any of us feel that staying locked down for a prolonged period of time is the way to go,” the member of the White House coronavirus task force said.
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