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Posted By: AltaD, 5/1/2020 10:57:32 AM

The United States should prepare for another 18 to 24 months of “significant COVID-19 activity” — which likely won’t end until about 60 to 70 percent of the population has been infected, recover and develop herd immunity, experts reveal in a new report. The report, released Thursday by the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, warned Americans of a worst-case scenario that would involve a larger wave of COVID-19 infections coming in the fall and winter, and one or more smaller waves in 2021. (Snip) The experts say it’s “hard to even understand the rationale” as some states are beginning to lift their restrictions.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: coyote 5/1/2020 11:04:09 AM (No. 397465)
Well, I guess we will have to shut down the economy indefinitely. And what effect will that have on public health, not good.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 5/1/2020 11:04:51 AM (No. 397467)
And according to experts New York is under water, we are out of oil and Hillary is President.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hammondb3 5/1/2020 11:06:00 AM (No. 397468)
Would this be the expert, Fauci, who told us in late January that Americans have nothing to worry about... or The other expert, Ferguson, who told us there would be at least 2.4 million Americans dead? I just want to know which of these idiots to believe.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: mc squared 5/1/2020 11:06:59 AM (No. 397471)
An expert is a person who has learned 'more and more about less and less' and is generally 'out of touch with the real world'
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Reply 5 - Posted by: MissGrits 5/1/2020 11:07:36 AM (No. 397472)
Oh, really? Experts say? They’ve been wrong at every turn about this! Absurd!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/1/2020 11:08:11 AM (No. 397473)
This makes Nikita Khrushchev's earth shaking threat seem pale in comparison. Gates will bury you. Soros will bury you. Fauci will bury you. Pick one.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: HPmatt 5/1/2020 11:11:09 AM (No. 397481)
Pay experts their pay only for the % the are correct - if they miss deaths by 99%, pay them 1% of taxpayer paid salary....
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/1/2020 11:13:38 AM (No. 397484)
And, Experts predict the sun will come up tomorrow. SO Effing WHAT!!!!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 5/1/2020 11:14:13 AM (No. 397485)
Are these the same experts who predicted the last 10 of 1 pandemics? And overestimated the severity of the one that happened?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: TJ54 5/1/2020 11:22:00 AM (No. 397494)
Is The New York Post vying with The New York Slimes for the title of Fake News Purveyor of the Year?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Safari Man 5/1/2020 11:24:41 AM (No. 397498)
New rule: nobody is allowed to work or even leave their house until dimocrats are in control of all three branches of government. However long that takes.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: voxpopuli 5/1/2020 11:25:35 AM (No. 397500)
"Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota" nice title.. let's simplify it.. Red U of M
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LeeBertie 5/1/2020 11:29:59 AM (No. 397504)
If 60 to 70 percent of the population must be infected and recover in order for the US to develop herd immunity, how do these "experts" expect that to happen if we all intently AVOID getting infected? We are giving a herd of dumbass experts far to much attention.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: hotcorner 5/1/2020 11:31:12 AM (No. 397505)
Oh my - they have ben wrong on every prediction so far and stopped the earth from doing commerce and ruined the economy. All to take out Donald Trump from exposing the coup d"etat and the most corrupt Obama Administration in the history of the world Prepare yourself and take car of yourself both economically and health-wise. These folks got paid and never suffered during the past two months. None of them went to jail or ever will go to jail where they belong. They hate you.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: AltaD 5/1/2020 11:35:08 AM (No. 397511)
They say we need herd immunity but they also say states that are reopening are gambling with people's lives. So what exactly do they want? We can't achieve herd immunity locked in isolation in our own homes.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: hoopsfan 5/1/2020 11:37:32 AM (No. 397513)
There is a major disconnect in these views from "experts". "The United States should prepare for another 18 to 24 months of “significant COVID-19 activity” — which likely won’t end until about 60 to 70 percent of the population has been infected, recover and develop herd immunity, experts reveal in a new report." "The experts say it’s “hard to even understand the rationale” as some states are beginning to lift their restrictions." The spread is inevitable but we still need to have severe restrictions? What's the point of severe restrictions? If flattening the curve was the original rationale, that has already been achieved. So, let's get back to life and use common sense, especially if we need to get through another one year plus of virus spread. Protect the vulnerable and get back to work!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bona Fides 5/1/2020 11:42:51 AM (No. 397517)
Experts! Another name for Bozos.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: felixcat 5/1/2020 11:55:14 AM (No. 397532)
Well then. Let's just euthanize the entire country and get it over with. (major snark)
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Reply 19 - Posted by: MDConservative 5/1/2020 11:59:41 AM (No. 397538)
Look, i got a model here, loaded with data from official death records, that tells me this. It's settled science...
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MindMadeUp 5/1/2020 12:17:15 PM (No. 397550)
The word, "Experts" should always have quotation marks around it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: earlybird 5/1/2020 12:21:15 PM (No. 397554)
Didn’t experts also predict Y2K? What we usually get are the unpredictable things like 9/11. The experts had nothing much to say ahead of that, as I recall. And they weren’t peddling vaccines...
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 5/1/2020 12:29:41 PM (No. 397560)
Same old story: cui bono?
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Strike3 5/1/2020 12:37:07 PM (No. 397570)
This long term prediction makes sense depending upon the availability of a vaccine but it will happen with an open or a closed economy so let's get back to business, batten down the hatches and tell the experts thanks for their opinion. The experts up to this point have been wrong.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: planetgeo 5/1/2020 12:38:33 PM (No. 397572)
My favorite definition for "expert" comes from the consulting biz, and it goes as follows: "X" stands for an unknown, "spurt" is a drip under pressure, so an expert is an unknown drip under pressure. Well, like super dweeb Fauci. And yes, by extending the lockdowns due to expert recommendations to "flatten the curve," we have flattened it out so far that we may not achieve "herd immunity" in this cycle, which the experts also say is the only way to eliminate the viral threat next cycle. Unlike Sweden, for example, which has chosen to achieve herd immunity rather than flatten the curve. Looks like their experts are smarter than ours and recommend better, longer-range strategies.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Strike3 5/1/2020 12:51:43 PM (No. 397593)
Excellent comment on Y2K, #21. The computer programming "experts" who predicted Y2K problems knew exactly what was going to happen because they had been designing data bases and writing programs for decades before it ever happened. Most of the problems with the two digit year were corrected before the year 2000 reached the calender. However, these COVID-19 experts are working blind, not to mention stupid. In spite of the terrific job that programmers did in correcting the Y2K problem, we ran across a problem in 2017 where a patient 101 years old was classified as a 1 year old baby in her hospital admission. Should we have shut down the computers for 17 years because something like that might happen? Shutting down our economy makes just as much sense.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Venturer 5/1/2020 1:00:24 PM (No. 397601)
We are already in a shutdown urged by their overblown figures and now they want to extend it for 2 years. Open it up now and let us all take our chances.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Starboard_side 5/1/2020 1:00:28 PM (No. 397602)
The whole intent of the stay-in-place was simply to buy time to ensure the hospital systems didn't get over-run, and then to get all of the PPE brought in to allow the hospital systems to effectively operate. But, it's always been known that once people were allowed to return to "normal" routines, that there would be a spike in cases. Yet, what do they also tell us, that if we all wear a mask, the chances of getting coughed on, or near someone sneezing, would be reduced to less that 4%. Once Remdesivir is proved to be a very useful theraputic to help treat the symptoms, much like the Z-Pack when someone has the regular flu, or bronchitis, helps alleviate the symptom, it will help ease people's fear. Also, over 90% of those who test positive won't end up in the hospital or ICU. The statistics are already proving that.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Cat Ballou 5/1/2020 1:02:23 PM (No. 397604)
Where is this "significant activity"? In a few areas of the country, but not much anywhere else. As for significant, how do the numbers compare to the annual flu? Looks pretty tame. Shutting down the economy for what might be, rather than what is, doesn't makes sense. Unless the people aren't aware of what the real reason is.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 5/1/2020 1:08:43 PM (No. 397617)
Experts my eyeball. First the "experts" told us there was absolutely nothing to fear from COVID-19. Then they screamed the sky was falling and 2 to 3 million Americans were gonna die. They're clueless and they're making it up as they're going along. I don't trust them as far as I can spit.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Axeman 5/1/2020 1:25:16 PM (No. 397641)
Are "experts" "touting" something again?
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Reply 31 - Posted by: RuckusTom 5/1/2020 1:29:18 PM (No. 397649)
The "experts" have spoken. Let's just close down the economy and shudder in our homes for 2 years. The government can print as much money as we need and send it to us.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Lawsy0 5/1/2020 3:20:09 PM (No. 397721)
Possible. Maybe. Could have. STFU and give facts and numbers. You prophecy doesn't mean diddly squat in the real world. How did you come to write such suppositions from a non-scientific look at a shred of data. According to experts, you are also full of guano.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: qr4j 5/1/2020 3:55:38 PM (No. 397742)
All too often, the experts don't know Jack. I am tired of them. I won't believe them. I'll just see what happens and do my best to be careful and wise.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: Rather Read 5/1/2020 4:04:10 PM (No. 397748)
The experts were so right in their predictions. Yeah right.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: JackBurton 5/1/2020 4:04:56 PM (No. 397749)
So if there are deaths from Covid... we must shut things down longer? Even if those deaths are not really from covid but listed that way? Because there's a higher payment to the hospital if they're listed that way?
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Proud Texan 5/1/2020 4:15:42 PM (No. 397760)
Why should we listen to "experts"? They obviously don't listen to themselves. They tells us what to do in one sentence, and then in the very next sentence tell us why that is exactly the wrong thing to do.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 5/1/2020 4:35:12 PM (No. 397773)
So who are the "experts"? Baloney.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 5/1/2020 4:48:57 PM (No. 397783)
“Expert” predictions seem to rely on Magic 8 Balls, chicken blood, and a voodoo woman named Alice.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Aud 5/1/2020 5:08:45 PM (No. 397799)
New herd immunity example? Today my wife and I were driving ho e after returning scaffold items from a local tool re tal shop when a motorcyclist sans helmet passed us. Then it came to me: consider a large population of motorcyclists, some who wear helmets, the rest who do not. Over time, by violent skull contact with hard surfaces, the non-wearers will cull themselves through brain injury (no longer able to drive a motorcycle) or death. That will leave a large majority of helmet wearers surviving, and so reduce (immunize?) the motorcycling herd percentage of deaths or permanent disability by brain injury.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: DVC 5/1/2020 5:30:11 PM (No. 397813)
Still pretty much a NYC metro area problem. Much of the rest of the country has very few cases, many fewer deaths. We need to END THIS!
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Reply 41 - Posted by: DVC 5/1/2020 5:36:49 PM (No. 397816)
About 60% of the deaths are inside a 100 mile radius of Manhattan. The USA has 3,800,000 square miles. That 100 mile ring "NYC metro area plus" represents less than 32,000 square miles. So, 60% of these deaths have occurred in less than 1% of the land area of this country. Leave the other 99% of us alone, we can figure out what WE need and it is never what NYC thinks it needs.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Norway 5/1/2020 5:55:46 PM (No. 397827)
If the experts are correct, then the lock-down is merely postponing the inevitable.
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Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot announced on Saturday that she is instructing the police superintendent to cite, arrest and jail all non-compliant residents who permit gatherings and parties in their residence. Failing to comply with the stay-at-home orders and maintain social distancing will no longer be met with a warning.Police are authorized to deliver citations, conduct immediate arrests and potentially jail any non-compliant resident in the city of Chicago.“This is how it is going to be: We will shut you down, we will cite you, and if we need to, we will arrest you and we will take you to jail,”
Bush Center Slams Trump: We
Want More Migration
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Posted by Imright 5/3/2020 8:23:47 PM Post Reply
The economics director at President George W. Bush’s advocacy center slammed President Donald Trump’s popular, pro-American immigration policy.The May 1 slam came just before Bush posted a May 2 video urging national unity in the coronavirus crash that has pushed more than 25 million Americans out of jobs.“The most important thing to remember in this is that we don’t want [Trump’s] temporary policy to become permanent immigration policy,” economic director Laura Collins said a video posted on the center’s Twitter account. She continued.. We know immigrants are good for the economy. We know they’re good for our culture.
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