NYT Says ‘Fleeing New Yorkers
May Have Hastened the Spread of
the Coronavirus’
RedState,
by
Nick Arama
Original Article
Posted By: DVC,
4/12/2020 12:21:33 PM
One of the liberal myths that you can see being spread on social media, aided by some in the liberal media, is that Fox News downplayed the Wuhan coronavirus and because of that that Republicans/evangelicals/those “other people are going to spread infection everywhere, just you wait and see.
The problem with this goofy conspiracy theory is that every element of it is wrong. Fox didn’t downplay it more than any other media outlet. Indeed it wasn’t Fox calling things like Trump cutting travel from China racist and suggesting there was nothing to fear, it was Democrats and outlets like the New York Times.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
bad-hair 4/12/2020 12:25:50 PM (No. 377217)
The NY Times uses "may have" in an article ?
I'm shocked. The "fleeing" New Yorkers were rich enough to flee and didn't get the bug.
New York Democrat first principle … Look out for Number One.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 4/12/2020 12:31:05 PM (No. 377224)
Check out this map of the distribution of the virus in Florida if you have any doubt that the NYC folks carried Wuhan flu to Florida.
https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86
For those who haven't spent much time in Florida, the SE counties from Palm Beach, to Broward and to Miami area have been heavily populated by NYC folks for many decades. Many have winter homes or retire there. A New York accent is as common there as in NYC, it seems.
Broward and Dade counties account for right at half of all the statewide cases, add in Palm Beach county and you reach just under 60% of the statewide cases.
Thanks, New York, for sharing your infection.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/12/2020 12:40:40 PM (No. 377240)
That New Yorkers may have fled is entirely possible. Considering the circumstances, many of us might have done the same thing. Whether they actually carried the bug with them is problematic. They wouldn’t have known. We won’t know. So we move on.
The Blame Game can become fatiguing all by itself...
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 4/12/2020 12:42:04 PM (No. 377241)
Here’s hoping they ALL flee—
To China!
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/12/2020 12:55:36 PM (No. 377253)
Talk about a day late and a dollar short. We were saying this weeks agos. One look at S. Florida's numbers is all you need to see.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 4/12/2020 12:59:04 PM (No. 377258)
In 1963, my BFF's doctor told her to stay home from church while she was experiencing morning sickness while pregnant. She asked him why. He told her that people who are too sick to go to school or work, will somehow still go to church and to the grocery. He must have been a prophet!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
PChristopher 4/12/2020 1:15:34 PM (No. 377284)
No doubt
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
harleynyc 4/12/2020 1:30:24 PM (No. 377305)
Funny thing, year round here in brooklyn, half of the cars have out of state plates, driving around taking pictures and of course, eating pizza.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Highvoltage 4/12/2020 1:33:02 PM (No. 377308)
Obviously Trump should have enforced on the day he was sworn in to office a travel ban on China and social distance for the US. He is certainly impeachable for not doing so. ugh
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
moebellini3 4/12/2020 1:38:19 PM (No. 377312)
Yea right. And these are the same freakin morons who refuse to treat infected people with the only drug that is proving to be effective against this virus. Communists, every one of them.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/12/2020 1:49:15 PM (No. 377321)
Common sense aside. There is no law that would override the constitutional rights of Americans permanently residing in New York from decamping and traveling to their second homes in Florida or other States. In the same respect and more importantly there is no law whereby the President can stop returning US citizens, or aliens who are by law considered to be US Persons for that matter, who are mostly permanent resident aliens (green card holders) from entering the USA. That’s why the President’s travel ban from Europe to say JFK Airport at New York City could never be effective. Because at this time of year Europeans do not take vacations, so most arriving travelers from Europe, since the corona virus emerged, at JFK Airport are either returning US citizens or US persons, no doubt with some of them being infected, who were vacationing in Europe, but who could not be stopped from entering the USA. Chances are that’s how the virus got it’s start in New York City. On the West Coast once the President slapped his travel ban on foreign nationals who had been in China in the last fourteen days appears to be more effective, as the passengers on those flights contain a very much high percentage of foreign nationals, mostly Chinese, who the President’s travel ban in January stopped from entering the USA. Even there the President’s China travel ban could not stop US citizens and US Persons traveling on commercial aircraft direct from China from entering the USA.
In the era of globalization and essentially “open borders” it is impossible for any President to keep a lot of possibly infected Americans returning from abroad from re entering the USA, and common sense dictates that is bad news for Americans who we see now can easily be infected by deadly foreign origin viruses.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Omen55 4/12/2020 1:57:52 PM (No. 377333)
So Red State Govs who had Troopers at the borders looking for NY tags are the smart ones.
Re-election is now assured.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/12/2020 2:01:44 PM (No. 377340)
Some seem to be missing two key points:
1. This is something the NYT is promoting. When did we start buying into NYT conspiracy theories?
2. It’s pretty obvious that New Yorkers go south to Florida every year in winter. Just as midwesterners from Nebraska and Kansas and thereabouts head for Arizona.
For years they have been called “snowbirds”. Now some are aiming to call them criminals. Sometimes I just shake my head...
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/12/2020 2:03:03 PM (No. 377342)
Re #12, those who decamp to warmer places in winter are not all wealthy. We are beginning to sound like Bernie, too...
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 4/12/2020 2:03:22 PM (No. 377343)
What if this wasn't something that kills 1-3% of people and was one of the ones that kills 20% or 50%? What might we want to do differently?
Hawaii used to have quarantine required for all pets traveling to their state to keep out some animal diseases.
California used to stop every car and truck at the borders to check for any fruits or, IIRC, vegetables, to prevent the spread of plant diseases.
One of the questions on the re-entry form when coming back to the USA in the last few years has been "have you been near or on any farm" to stop the spread of, I think, hoof and mouth disease.
And we didn't let in the immigrants in the early part of last century without a detailed health check, and many were sent home because they had some disease, or quarantined at Ellis Island before being permitted to enter the USA.
Perhaps we need some re-thinking about our border policies - at least for national borders, as far as health checks. Maybe even state borders if there is some really serious disease?
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
GO3 4/12/2020 2:04:49 PM (No. 377346)
I'm curious if US citizens who have been exposed to ISIS are allowed to re-enter the US. It sure seems that way.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Starlifter Nav 4/12/2020 2:05:56 PM (No. 377347)
They were dong that in Rhode Island! (Which is about as Blue as it gets.)
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/12/2020 2:31:37 PM (No. 377366)
#16. US citizens who have been exposed to the corona virus abroad are being allowed to re-enter the USA and are given advise to self quarantine themselves at home and to seek medical assistance if appropriate.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
MDConservative 4/12/2020 2:31:49 PM (No. 377367)
The hystrics peddlers and experts will use any excuse to explain why this did not pan out nearly as they with their bogus numbers and models predicted. The American people will be the heroes of the tale because it psychically rewards them for following the government edicts to "flatten the curve", a curve that likely never existed. Proof? So far all the empty hospital beds and lack of bodies lining the streets. In places like NYC, one wonders what games are being played to create such a grisly display for the media. Yes, we are all heroes...maybe we'll all get a medal. At least a "USA COVID-19 Strong!" t-shirt.
BTW: Isn't it odd that Gov. Abbott of Texas has "closed" the border between his state and Louisiana...but no problems with NY, CT and NJ travelers?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
hershey 4/12/2020 2:46:43 PM (No. 377378)
Just more drivel from the lame stream media...what is really up is down, and what is really down is up, and Trump is a bad man, leading the country to destruction,and the dems are gonna win in November, blah blah blah blah....I just stopped watching them....
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 4/12/2020 2:50:04 PM (No. 377380)
Then we can call it the NYC Virus?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Starlifter Nav 4/12/2020 3:21:44 PM (No. 377414)
My comment regarding Rhode Island police stopping cars with NY Tags was obviously (I hope) meant in response to #12 ... things get confused some times.
As for "calling them 'criminals', no. I wouldn't go that far. Rude, entitled, thoughtless, utterly self-centered, and inconsiderate of anyone or anything other than themselves during an emergency scenario like none we
have seen in our lifetimes?. Yeah. You bet. But not 'criminal'... oh heavens, no. /s
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I live in a sparsely populated county on the east coast of Florida. Of our first 20 cases of the Wuhan Chinese flu, 12 had recently traveled from NY! The first death was an 88-year-old lady from NY. Thanks, NY.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
GO3 4/12/2020 3:48:49 PM (No. 377430)
#18, that wasn’t a spellcheck glitch. I really meant ISIS as in going overseas to support the terrorists.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
volksford 4/12/2020 7:43:30 PM (No. 377613)
I don't call New Yorkers criminal ,but when you pack airplanes in multiple flights over a four day period after a shelter in place, you are a damned self centered a hole.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
InvestiGator 4/12/2020 7:52:34 PM (No. 377623)
An oncologist friend in SOFLA who is very active treating Covid 19 said a majority of such patients he sees came from NY.
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As we say in the south "Let me tell you" I went to the grocery store last week and a car full of NYers were using grandma's car, parked in the handicapped space, got out with weird face shields and took pictures. No one in this area would be caught dead in a white lace dress in this time of year. Then they went into the store, having more fun, touching everything.
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It is pretty obvious that NYC metro area folks bailed out to many other places "to avoid the Wuhan flu", and actually carried it with themselves, and spread it far and wide.