Navy Secretary Thomas Modly
has resigned, but we need to hear from
Rear Adm. Stu Baker on Capt. Brett Crozier
Washington Examiner,
by
Tom Rogan
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
4/8/2020 4:51:18 AM
Following acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly's resignation, we must get to the full truth of what actually happened with Capt. Brett Crozier's firing. The person we most urgently need to hear from is Rear Adm. Stu Baker.
More on that in a moment. First, some context.
Last week, Crozier was relieved of command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier after he sent an unclassified, urgent email begging Navy leaders to allow him to dock at Guam. Crozier's concern was a growing onboard outbreak of the coronavirus. The email then leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle, causing major embarrassment to the Navy. Modly then fired Crozier,
Reply 1 - Posted by:
worried 4/8/2020 7:13:49 AM (No. 372343)
Whatever the excuse, Crozier was wrong to send that email, letting our enemies know that the carrier was hurting. The email looks more like a ploy to get the press on his side and make himself out to be a hero. He knew what he was doing was wrong, but did it anyway. Case closed!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Daisymay 4/8/2020 7:26:22 AM (No. 372358)
I guess I would ask the question, WHO leaked the messages that Capt. Crzozier sent to Navy leaders. It sounded to me like he was frantic to get some help for the sick men on his ship. I would bet it was his last resort, not his first instinct to send those messages!
Trump said he "just might have to get involved it that"! I hope he does.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/8/2020 8:51:04 AM (No. 372426)
It would amaze most people how often personality and other unimportant traits affect who is promoted in the military, who is passed over and who is demoted. As extreme examples, General George Patton pounded the Germans across Europe yet he was not a popular man with his superiors. Captain Dick Marcinko, founder of SEAL Team 6, was hated by his superiors and was actually railroaded into prison by those who did not like him. We are all familiar with the Obamanation's firing of many good officers and their replacement with butt-kissing pansies to pave the wave for homosexuals and transsexuals in the military to literally - kiss butt.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
HotRod 4/8/2020 9:57:46 AM (No. 372528)
Right or wrong, regarding the email, Crozier was acting in the interests of his crew. Military leaders like that are worth their weight in gold. Other, higher-ranking officers typically have other interests, since they are living/working in a different environment. Apparently, from what we have learned, there had been other communication going on in official channels with no relief for the endangered crew.
Should Crozier have allowed the situation to continue, with a wildly spreading virus and possible deaths? I suspect that Crozier knew he would be canned, at the minimum, but chose to sacrifice his career for his crew. He is certainly no dummy, and knew what would happen.
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No, we - the public - don't need to hear from anyone else. This is not a soap opera. The President fired the acting SECNAV. Case closed. Now, let those in charge get the ship back to sea.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
judy 4/8/2020 10:30:52 AM (No. 372582)
He used unclassified email, sent 5 pages & cc it to 20 -30 people. They don't know the exact number yesterday I heard 65 people received the email. This should be throughly investigated. This does not sound like a loyal captain.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/8/2020 11:22:06 AM (No. 372655)
At this point, it appears that both Crozier and Modly, who are both Naval Academy graduates, who both started their Navy careers as helicopter pilots, with Crozier still on active duty, and Modly who served seven years as a Naval Officer, have acted very stupidly when it came to then utilizing the uniformed Naval Chain of Command. Crozier should have sent his letter to the Admiral commanding his Carrier Task Force with a request that it be forwarded to the Admiral commanding the Seventh Fleet and the Chief of Naval Operations. There is no excuse for Crozier instead sending that letter to multiple civilians outside the uniformed Navy chain of command who had no need to know the level of combat readiness of a deployed aircraft carrier and its supporting task group, and who obviously leaked it to the media. As far as Modly is concerned, as the Acting Secretary of the Navy he showed his lack of confidence in the uniformed Navy chain of command above Crozier’s level to reach an equitable solution to the incident, when he took it upon himself to relieve Crozier of his command without giving the uniformed Navy chain of command above Crozier, that consists of several very experienced Admirals a chance to conduct an inquiry, and to take action against Crozier if they deemed it appropriate. Modly then compounded his error by immediately flying out to Guam and publicly making disparaging comments about Crozier in a speech to the aircraft carrier’s crew. In the military jumping the chain of command and releasing what should be classified information to the public have always been considered to be serious breaches of discipline. All those errors have now caused a Presidential inquiry into the situation. Chances are there will also be a Congressional investigation. As President Trump often says, let’s see that happens!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 4/8/2020 12:00:08 PM (No. 372739)
This is pretty uninteresting at this point. The strict disciplinary rules which are required of military organizations, and the way that they are especially strictly applied to the very, very select few men who are privileged to command our aircraft carriers, is not something that people who have not been around the military can grasp, or will like, or will understand.
Now that 99% of people out there have no military experience at all, 99% will try to apply civilian norms to this, and 99% will be wrong, and their opinions will be invalid. This is not remotely like anything that most people have ever been associated with, and public involvement is unproductive.
Let's just move on.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
lakerman1 4/8/2020 4:01:33 PM (No. 373097)
I know absolutely nothing about the Navy and their rules, but the Aircraft Commander in the USAF can land his aircraft wherever safety of himself and his crew requires.
Could Captain crozier have landed his ship in Guam for safety reasons, as a command decision? and why does that vice admiral on the kung flu task force wear army fatigues instead of the usual Navy uniform?
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