Medical group endorses anti-malarial
drug treatment for coronavirus patients
by
Carl Campanile
Original Article
Posted By: EQKimball,
4/6/2020 2:08:37 PM
America’s major medical society specializing in the treatment of respiratory diseases has endorsed using hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill hospitalized coronavirus patients. The American Thoracic Society issued guidelines Monday that suggest COVID-19 patients with pneumonia get doses of the anti-malaria drug.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
earlybird 4/6/2020 2:20:55 PM (No. 370675)
“for seriously ill hospitalized coronavirus patients”. “COVID-19 patients with pneumonia..” I believe this is happening in New York. Nevada has restricted the use of the drug to just hospital inpatients.
The controversy seems to be about doctors prescribing hydroxychloroquine for their patients who have symptoms and have tested positive, but who are not in hospital, to keep them from worsening to the stage where hospitalization and probable intubation/ventilator is required.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 4/6/2020 2:24:48 PM (No. 370679)
Let's hope it is effective. There certainly seem to be good indications.
I am waiting to hear about the effectiveness of convalescent plasma treatments, which are being tested, too. They can happen very quickly compared to other treatments.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
seamusm 4/6/2020 2:31:45 PM (No. 370686)
Plasma-derived therapy is not going to help but a handful of folks and at enormous difficulty and expense. Hydroxychloroquine should NOT be withheld until someone is hospitalized with pneumonia - that is too late when we know some people can explosively crater and die. Yes, it sure it would be nice to know who was likely to die but until we know that we should treat with our best option everyone with even modest respiratory symptoms. A lung doctor.
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Just heard Gov. Cuomo state that 78% of those patients who enter the hospital are coming out.
Remember, no all those who get the virus are going to end up needing ICU, or a ventilator.
Plus, the IHME has reduced their death numbers again. They've gone from 2.2 million deaths, to 200,000 deaths, to 81,000 deaths now.
Imagine, government is always reactionary, and trying to hit a moving target is not their forte.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
lakerman1 4/6/2020 2:37:01 PM (No. 370695)
But mika said...
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
valinva 4/6/2020 2:43:15 PM (No. 370698)
Mika Brzezinski's head just exploded. Morning Schmo was close by and now has to get deodorized because as suspected, she had S**t for brains.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
john56 4/6/2020 2:46:05 PM (No. 370703)
Problem will be that the drug supplies (demand already up 500%) will be taxed. Good thing is most of the dosing regimins I've seen are 5-day protocols, with 400-600 mg (2-3 tablets) daily dosage.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
LadyHen 4/6/2020 3:34:09 PM (No. 370729)
In Italy they are using this drug HCQ in combination for those in the early to midrange of the illness with great success. It's cutting back on hospitalizations. It is reducing viral load and helping people never enter that danger zone where the body is overwhelmed and patients crash. All medical people on the front lines of this illness should be on a prophylactic dose of HCQ.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
cor-vet 4/6/2020 3:47:48 PM (No. 370742)
If this works, and is endorsed by a medical group, what are the dems and their propaganda arm going to use to cudgel President Trump with? I'm sure they're scrambling for something already!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 4/6/2020 3:50:24 PM (No. 370744)
So, if #7 is correct, it takes 15 pills per patient. We have 350,000 cases currently known, at least 20,000 recovered, so about 330,000 known, active cases. We have pretty good info that only about 20-30% of patients who get this need to have serious treatment, the rest just get over it on their own. So that is around 100,000 patients (30% of 330K) who will be very sick, and will need drug treatments.
If each patient needs 15 pills, that is about 1.5 million pills needed. IIRC, Bayer donated 3 million doses to the USA, and an Israeli pharma company donated 6 million doses, so we should have 9 million EXTRA doses, beyond whatever is in our normal system in warehouses, and ignoring whatever production is happening every day now.
If it takes 1.5 million doses to treat 100% of the patients who get really sick, NOW...and we have 9 million "extra" doses....seems like we will be in good shape. Even if the number of people who get really sick gets to be six times what we now have, we should have enough with just the donated doses. I am sure that there are more of these pills being turned out as we sit here, too.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
MickTurn 4/6/2020 5:16:28 PM (No. 370817)
Hello Medical Bureaucrats, we're in a WAR, will you fight and die or lay down and die.
As Pres. Trump always says, "What do you have to lose?" In this case your life.
Are you so stupid as to believe you can't take a drug unless it's been through all the more than rigorous trial (and error) Studies?
Let me fill you on an ugly truth. Even though the Medical community follows the clinical testing regimen to a fault, SOME drugs are approved and go on market and start KILLING PEOPLE...so you have to ask yourself, did the testing work (NO), was it the final answer (NO), was it complete (NO), then why in the Hades are all these supposed smart people hanging their medical hat on a totally Bureaucratic FLAWED process? Simple, their friends get to make tons of cash in the FRAUD! There is nothing wrong with a choice to take a drug, especially if it's efficacy is PROVEN..that is why the 'Off Label' prescription of drugs is very common!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DCGIRL 4/6/2020 5:39:07 PM (No. 370836)
Will the American Thoracic Society (ATS) please tell Drs. Fauci and Brix. Borth doctors are still waiting for more data information for this drug.
ATS call President Trump and tell him it is OKAY to open the economy back up.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DVC 4/6/2020 6:20:40 PM (No. 370859)
#3, "enormous difficulty and expense"?? One report says that they pull the blood, spin out the red cells and then produce enough plasma for three patients from one blood donation. Blood donations are unreimbursed (free), all the blood centers are set up to separate plasma, so they can pack it into standard IV bags. Then infuse with a simple arm or hand needle. Doesn't seem like "enormous difficulty and expense".
It seems like pretty much business as usual at the blood banks, and pretty standard stuff any time you are put into a hospital they put an IV bag in, it seems.
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