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Misleading NYT Map Suggests The South
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Posted By: AltaD, 4/3/2020 9:14:25 AM

On Thursday, The New York Times published a story suggesting that the South is uniquely dangerous for the spread of the coronavirus. Michael Barbaro, host of the Times podcast "The Daily," shared the map with the text, "In a word....The South." Yet both the NYT article and Barbaro's tweet ignored basic realities about American life that help explain the reasons behind the map — and show that the South is not a uniquely dangerous region during this crisis. In the article, "Where America Didn't Stay Home Even as the Virus Spread," James Glanz dissects cellphone location data from the data intelligence firm Cuebiq.

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NYers crammed into high-rise elevators and subways are more likely to spread the virus than Southerners driving a few miles to a grocery store.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: pros7767 4/3/2020 9:19:18 AM (No. 366975)
I live in the South. The closest food store is more than 5 miles away. In my area, everyone is practicing social distancing so the NYTimes can shove it!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: john56 4/3/2020 9:23:24 AM (No. 366981)
You new South New York City?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mean Gene 4/3/2020 9:37:01 AM (No. 367006)
When you're in your car, you're isolated. Doesn't matter how far you go to get to the market. In NYC, otoh, you can get infected just breathing the recycled air in those "green" locked-windowed apartments and offices.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/3/2020 9:46:59 AM (No. 367015)
Of all the gall. What a mob of know nothing elitist snobs!! They have the vast majority of infections and deaths and they are chiding us? We drive cars, alone, to the grocery. We don't cram into subways. We live in houses with yards not apartment buildings with shared elevators, hallways, doors knobs, and lobbies. We live out, away from big cities and drive miles to get to the grocery store. We don't walk there. We have normal size pantries and appliances so we can store up supplies. We aren't crammed into tiny apartments with no storage. If there is one other thing I will take away (besides never buy anything "made in China" ever again) is New York City dwellers are the most clueless pack of gleefully uniformed human beings on this planet.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: mc squared 4/3/2020 9:47:50 AM (No. 367017)
We encounter a tiny fraction of the people while in our own cars for 50 miles than people in Manhattan do taking the cross town bus for 2 miles. But who dreams up this crap anyway?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 4/3/2020 9:51:38 AM (No. 367021)
The NYT once again writes a total piece of propaganda, trying to distract attention from the FACT that NYC is the epicenter of this pandemic in the USA, their state having just under HALF of ALL deaths in the entire USA. Living in an ant colony, stacked on top of each other, rubbing shoulders and breathing in each other's faces is mandatory to get around in NYC, subway, buses, etc. THAT is the real danger zone. NYC is the dangerous, diseased-ridden place, so the NYT manages (probably after a week of desperately searching for SOMETHING) to find a pretty much irrelevant bit of data to use to try to smear all those deplorables in the South with, and show how wonderful and superior all those NYC folks REALLY are. NYT is a disgusting propaganda outlet, and has been for decades. There is solid proof that that "moving around" map (if not entirely faked data) has any actual correlation with Wuhan flu. What is the proof...the FACT that most of those places have very low rates of Wuhan flu, unlike NYC area. IMO, population density and the use of public transportation is a nearly perfect measure of whether your location will have a serious outbreak.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: BamaMan 4/3/2020 9:52:11 AM (No. 367023)
Yes, it’s extremely dangerous down here! You Yankee libs stay up north and be safe! /s
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MMC 4/3/2020 9:52:58 AM (No. 367026)
And DeBlahsio releases 100’s from prison ? To do what? Spread disease and crime? He is mentally unstable- Look at maps with Democrats as leaders- notice the large number of cases and deaths..
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Quigley 4/3/2020 9:59:08 AM (No. 367031)
So if I drive alone in my car 5 miles to the pharmacy and back, that’s going to spread the virus more than if i just go 5 blocks on the subway? But what if I carry an eye of newt? Will that change the nyt’s calculation? Figures lie, and liars figure. This may be a new low for the corrupt spreading of ignorance by the slimes.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rumblehog 4/3/2020 10:03:40 AM (No. 367039)
It's not the first time damned Yankees blamed the South for all their woes.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: bpl40 4/3/2020 10:08:00 AM (No. 367045)
The virus is concentrated in three of the bluest socialist one party states in the Union - Washington, Kalifornia and New York. I would say Liberalism seems to be main cause of the spread.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bossysooz 4/3/2020 10:08:40 AM (No. 367047)
Good! Maybe that will discourage people from descending upon us.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: stablemoney 4/3/2020 10:24:06 AM (No. 367072)
The NYTs never misses an opportunity for negative dispersions on the South.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: cor-vet 4/3/2020 10:29:24 AM (No. 367080)
I'm with poster #1- I also live in the South, and there are a lot of cases, in New Orleans. Out here, in the rural areas, not so much. During this crisis, I would no more think of driving 60 miles into New Orleans, and mingling in a crowd than I would think of visiting NY, ever. We walk everyday, safely I might add, around our neighborhood and on our yards/property. We grocery shop once a week and do the big warehouse stores every other month. That hasn't changed since the start of this crisis, though the warehouse trip may be stretched out. We routinely weather cat 2 to 4 storms and don't cry as much as New Yorkers did over their cat. 1 Sandy, begging for help and tons of money. After 911, it was Southerners that were in NY, cooking and feeding the 1st responders. The only thing more annoying than listening to New Yorkers whine about never getting enough, is their condescending attitude to we deplorable non-elites. Right now, I can go to the store, 8 miles away, alone in my car. We wear masks when we shop and rubber gloves when we pump gas. We've always known how to wash our hands, so that's no biggy. The store shelves are pretty much stocked, so we don't have to hoard. Most of us have well stocked pantries and freezers, and a lot of us have stand-by generators. While this is not the best of times, it's not the hardest thing we've ever had to deal with. If my daughter-in-law didn't have to go to NO as a respiratory therapist, I'd feel even better. And it's NY that is asking for more and more medical personnel and supplies, if I'm not mistaken. Sorry for the rant, but those holier than thou Yankees can kiss my grits, as we like to say!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rather Read 4/3/2020 10:34:33 AM (No. 367092)
I live in the South. My county has had 17 cases. No deaths.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Right Time 4/3/2020 10:51:03 AM (No. 367118)
If its in the NYT, its Fake News. Don't believe it
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Reply 17 - Posted by: volksford 4/3/2020 10:53:48 AM (No. 367121)
Hospitals in Florida are wishing New Yorkers practiced what they preached !
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Reply 18 - Posted by: MuncsSister 4/3/2020 10:54:41 AM (No. 367123)
I’m presently sitting in a wrought iron lawn chair, barefoot, contemplating the azaleas in my yard with a large cup of coffee (lipstick on the rim) and an iPad in my lap. It’s a beautiful, warm, spring morning. Lots of birds. Lots of bees. The pollen is finally subsiding. Now, tell me again NYT how great NYC is and how stupid and backwards we southerners are.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: poliposter 4/3/2020 11:02:33 AM (No. 367144)
There are a more than a few unintelligent elitists. That being said, nothing says 'Southern Hospitality' like #7's post.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: bad-hair 4/3/2020 11:24:34 AM (No. 367172)
No No. He's totally right. Don't misunferestimate the extreme danger of setting foot in Texas. STAY NORTH. Need I turn the sarcasm off ?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Daisymay 4/3/2020 11:57:04 AM (No. 367206)
Okay! You people who think you know everything already said that as soon as this virus hits "Warm" Temps, it will die. Yeah, well, it's been mid to high 80's for weeks here in central Florida and it's not dead! It is NOT what the people up North are dealing with, but South Florida does have a majority of the cases in Florida. SOUTH FL! It doesn't get any hotter! So, is the virus going to die in the South, or is it going to be "dangerous"? I don't think anyone really knows, especially Mr. Glanz or the NY Times!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LadyHen 4/3/2020 12:24:14 PM (No. 367225)
Just fyi, very non-socialally distancing, very Democrat, very Yankee filled South Florida also has a huge number of old people with health issues and gay men.... both high risk groups. My niece is a veteran Masters nurse manager at a Central Florida hospital. Her hospital has plenty of space in the ICU and regular beds. They HAVE NOT been slammed, in fact they are on the light side compared to normal bed occupancy this time of year.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: jacksin5 4/3/2020 12:26:07 PM (No. 367226)
Speaking with "Snowbirds" in our retirement community here in Florida, they are hunkering down here. They are literally terrified of the thought of returning to their homes back North. Who can blame them? There's a high probability that returning to NY, RI, MI, MA, etc., would be a Death sentence.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Urgent Fury 4/3/2020 12:43:30 PM (No. 367241)
Then why are all the NYers flooding down here?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: kono 4/3/2020 12:56:26 PM (No. 367256)
Neither rural folk nor city folk have any credible data to vilify each other as being less observant of social-distancing principles. Just another way for us to express our personal prejudices against one another. (And for the media to pander to the prejudices of their respective audiences.)
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Reply 26 - Posted by: worried 4/3/2020 1:46:47 PM (No. 367316)
Imagine what Seinfeld's writers could do with these times! They lampooned the city in a number of episodes, and the city folk who moved to Florida. The ideas come fast and furious!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Chuzzles 4/3/2020 1:50:40 PM (No. 367322)
But yet it is the beltway corridor of NY/NJ/CT that is considered the hot zone for CV.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: kono 4/3/2020 4:00:41 PM (No. 367452)
The map is from the NYT and it misleads. But I repeat myself.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: chance_232 4/3/2020 4:20:20 PM (No. 367468)
I should write to the times and inform them that we Southerners, in addition to being racist, bigoted, sexist homophobes only take breaks from cross burnings to BBQ puppies. Anything to discourage NY'ers from coming south of the Mason Dixon line. I know what the Mason Dixon line is.....but would wager most democrats dont.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: anniebc 4/3/2020 5:45:55 PM (No. 367555)
Get the Yankees all fired up at the South so they don't pay attention to the hundreds of newly released criminals coming to rob their homes.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 4/3/2020 10:07:01 PM (No. 367732)
#29 And guns. Lots of guns.
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