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Thomas Massie's forced coronavirus vote
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Posted By: earlybird, 3/27/2020 1:03:43 PM

The House was expected to pass a $2 trillion relief package Friday morning to ease the economic burden that has resulted from the coronavirus pandemic. But Republican Rep. Thomas Massie may have just delayed that relief from reaching businesses and families. Massie announced Friday morning that he would defy GOP leadership and request a roll call vote on the relief package, which means that if 216 lawmakers are not physically present in the House to vote on the measure, the relief package will remain at a standstill until quorum is reached. While Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez also considered blocking the bill, it seemed set to pass quickly on Friday, until Massie

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He is a wacko. AOC, ditto. There should be a means to overcome this kind of grandstanding.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Toledo 3/27/2020 1:07:21 PM (No. 359893)
what happened to line item veto?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: snapper451 3/27/2020 1:08:41 PM (No. 359894)
“We have met the enemy and he is us...”. Thanks Mr.. Massie. Here we have a situation where we could expose Pelosi for trying to stuff her pork into this and you decide to place all the attention on you. President Trump is correct, you need to go.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: john56 3/27/2020 1:09:51 PM (No. 359896)
Line item veto never made it through Congress. I'd be like asking drunks to close the bar. While the aid bill is needed (although probably, like most aid bills, the aid will go the least to the folks who need it the most), I somewhat agree with the Rep. who insists on a recorded vote. Make the left show where they stand. But that means we'd better have enough reps at WORK and not on a fact-finding mission in unaffected tropical islands.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: earlybird 3/27/2020 1:23:26 PM (No. 359915)
Fox is reporting that there is a bipartisan move afoot to work around Massey’s malarky and get a vote. Stay tuned… Meanwhile, Massie should get a bodyguard…and polish his CV. Massie could redeem himself by removing his objection.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 3/27/2020 1:25:13 PM (No. 359918)
I know how I can get my name recognized... I'll throw a wrench into the Bill that, for the most part will help Americans... But I know better than 434 other morons and 96 other Senator morons... My name is Tom Massie and I approve this message.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Boliver 3/27/2020 1:28:40 PM (No. 359922)
I have to applaud Mr Massie's fiscal conservatism since this bill will add $68,000 per family of new national debt and dollar devaluation, roughly $17,000 per citizen. I also appreciate that this is not the time nor place for him "to express that frustration." I have to wonder what will happen when this is passed, seems like nothing more than a 'Pay-Day Loan' the government is taking out. I understand the need though, tough spot to be in!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 3/27/2020 1:29:07 PM (No. 359923)
#1, take away by the Supreme Court in Clinton's time.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Paglia guy 3/27/2020 1:29:50 PM (No. 359926)
So what, he wants votes on the record? What's wrong with that? It's 2 effing trillion dollars, folks. So your Representative has to put down the crackpipe and vote. We'll see a few wackos say "no" and you can work to get them out of office. The fact that the Swamp Examiner doesn't like it is a plus, I say.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 3/27/2020 1:30:00 PM (No. 359927)
#3, no, the Line Item Veto was law for a while, did pass Congress, but found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court during Clinton's presidency.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bad-hair 3/27/2020 1:41:59 PM (No. 359942)
A trillion here, a trillion there. Before you know it you're talking real money.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: HPmatt 3/27/2020 1:47:10 PM (No. 359951)
House got it done. Time for KY to take care of him...
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Reply 12 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 3/27/2020 1:52:47 PM (No. 359958)
@#1 & 3 - There was a line item veto enacted in 1996. Clinton used it several time before the Supreme Court struck it down. They ruled the 1996 Line Item Veto Act as a violation of the "Presentment Clause," (Article I, Section 7), of the U.S. Constitution. It was a 6-3 vote against - which makes you wonder what the 3 votes for were thinking. The Constitution is clear. The president can veto in full but not in partial. He/She must approve or veto the exact legislation passed by Congress.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: F15 Gork 3/27/2020 2:07:16 PM (No. 359984)
The thing that’s really irresponsible here is spending another 2 trillion we don’t have.....
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Reply 14 - Posted by: wilarrbie 3/27/2020 2:13:15 PM (No. 359994)
Yes this is going to be very costly. We have over the decades, come to owe China much dollars. Make China cover a bunch of this, by deduction of funds owed if need be. And bring our factories back home.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: curious1 3/27/2020 2:21:07 PM (No. 360009)
So the uniparty members don't want to be on record voting for the crud that the leftards have stuffed in the bill. Tough. We'd be better off without it if it helps the leftards, because then it hurts the Republic. And there's no such thing as 'free' money.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Lawsy0 3/27/2020 2:51:24 PM (No. 360036)
"That Ain't The Way I Heered It!"
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Muguy 3/27/2020 2:58:36 PM (No. 360044)
He was perfectly within his rights as a member of Congress to ask that a quorum be called to conduct the business of a vote. Goodbye proper procedure, enter the mob rule. He was going to be outvoted, but at least HE stood up against it being rammed through instead of the Pelosi rule that she DEEMED IT PASSED
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Pam 3/27/2020 3:13:56 PM (No. 360052)
Just heard his interview. He was requesting a voice vote which required a quorum It's in the constitution. They got the quorum and the vote by voice was accomplished. Wish the house leadership responsible for the slowe down Senate bill got the same venom as Massie is getting. Taking an article at face value is dangerous.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 3/27/2020 3:22:48 PM (No. 360067)
I'm 100% with Massie. He's the only one left in DC who still believes that big government is the problem - - not the solution. Trump has caved - - and gone full-bore socialist. And those of you who are naîve enough to "trust Trump" - - how are you going to prevent the demonrats, socialists, and commies from making these bailouts, subsidies, and takeovers a permanent fixture of our society? Have you thought of that - - or have you gone socialist too?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: RuckusTom 3/27/2020 3:30:10 PM (No. 360071)
$2,000,000,000,000. We'd better pray interest rates never go up. That's a lot of money we're adding to our already $24,000,000,000,000 debt.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 3/27/2020 4:14:40 PM (No. 360114)
I like the idea of having a recorded vote on the largest pork package ever put out by DC.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bighambone 3/27/2020 4:35:27 PM (No. 360128)
Massie is an idiot and his chances of being re-elected are just about zero after President Trump put the hex on him.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MainelySane 3/27/2020 5:44:41 PM (No. 360184)
What difference does it make? How long does it take for 435 or less to push a button , yea or nay ..?
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Reply 24 - Posted by: TXknitter 3/27/2020 6:25:49 PM (No. 360215)
Well #19, we are way in the minority here. It seems to me that my President and GOP leaders exploded in anger mostly because with each passing hour, more poisonous details were leaking out. It had nothing to do with a simple delay after the 2 WEEK delay we have already endured. God help us.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: privateer 3/27/2020 6:56:29 PM (No. 360250)
Yes, Congress Critters doings should always be in secret, with no records kept. And it should be illegal to broadcast their actions, or even their likeness. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Strike3 3/27/2020 8:02:16 PM (No. 360325)
Payment by December 31, 2020 is already a significant delay from what should happen.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: jdh 3/27/2020 8:09:33 PM (No. 360329)
Massie delayed the vote by 10 minutes in order to follow correct constitutional procedures. Pilosi delayed the vote by a week just because she could. I agree with Massie following correct procedure.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: czechlist 3/27/2020 8:58:50 PM (No. 360369)
Massie demanded Article 1 Section 5 of the Constitution of The United States ot America be followed. We have everyday Americans going to work to keep the country running but our Congress cannot go to workip in accordance with the Constitution which they took an oath to uphold? Cowards?! Trump, members of Congress, the media and, unfortunately ignorant Americans, condemned him and accused him of grandstanding for insisting that the Constitution be followed. Sad state of this country.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Frenesi1 3/28/2020 7:28:10 AM (No. 360570)
He was probably the only politician following the Constitution. I can't believe so many people are criticizing him. We will look back in a year or two and realize what a massive fraud this funding is like we did with TARP?
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