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Posted By: MissMolly, 3/17/2020 5:05:26 AM

A friend tweeted from Ireland (in time for St. Patrick’s Day), blaming President Trump for the major decline in the value of stocks. This same friend credited Barack Obama’s economic policies when the Dow Jones Industrial Averages approached 30,000. This — and more — is part of our political, economic and medical divide with mixed messages coming from supposed professionals, amateurs and people who don’t know what they are talking about. According to Dictionary.com, “panic” is “a sudden overwhelming fear, with or without cause, that produces hysterical or irrational behavior, and that often spreads quickly through a group of persons or animals.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DCGIRL 3/17/2020 5:35:20 AM (No. 348624)
Something is terribly wrong here. The actions are getting way too crazy. Everything is shutting down. It's almost like which democrat Governor can out do the other democrat Governor to keep the panic going. Everyone that I have talked to in the last week (many) are saying it's the democrats trying to get Trump. They are in total belief that this is another ploy by democrats.....it's their last chance to get Trump. If this is true, then someone needs to take responsibility and needs to pay the price.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: franq 3/17/2020 5:49:43 AM (No. 348632)
I completely agree, #1. I always jump on Drudge for 10-15 seconds, just to see the headlines. Unprecedented.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: ARKfamily 3/17/2020 5:52:55 AM (No. 348635)
That someone is us. American citizens. We are resilient and we can't keep buying into what the Democrats and liberals are selling. Don't get me wrong, we need to be careful and aware. Unfortunately, that can't happen if we keep kicking the can down the road in any aspect of our lives. Start taking care of ourselves, our families, our homes, our businesses, our community and our country. But, most importantly, our church and our God. Get your Bible out and start reading - it is amazing! President Trump needs our support more than ever. Proverbs 6:6. Be like that industrious ant rather than the lazy slug. President Trump needs our energy. . .
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Reply 4 - Posted by: andyboy 3/17/2020 6:29:47 AM (No. 348657)
What #1 said. We sit here like sheep while the media overhype a legitimate health threat into a once-in-a-century crisis, and allow Governors -- Democrat Governors -- to restrict our Constitutional right to freely assemble, and (in the name of protecting us) shut down and destroy small businesses, and send the stock market into turmoil. A perfect way to destroy Trump (although his approval numbers continue to hold steady).
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Reply 5 - Posted by: TruthFetish 3/17/2020 6:34:56 AM (No. 348660)
Taiwan is smack up against the Chinese coast, yet keeps it's schools and businesses open. They kept their cool and their freedom. One death, 50 total cases.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Jerseyden 3/17/2020 6:35:14 AM (No. 348661)
Don’t understand why stats for this corona virus isn’t being compared to the influenza stats regularly. We hear the over 70 are hit the hardest but not the young. It looks like 10 times more people are dying from influenza, so why the panic for this one.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 3/17/2020 6:52:37 AM (No. 348668)
Panic, no. Preparing, yes. Quarantine was used for three thousand years, if not more. It works. What the world should remember out of this is this came from China. Just like the Black Plague came down the Silk Road. The Chinese eat things they shouldn’t (bats and rats). They use farming methods they shouldn’t (pigs in top of chickens). We should shun the nation of China until they adopt modern farming practices and cease eating trief (that means “filth” and refers to things like bats and rats).
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 3/17/2020 7:09:32 AM (No. 348676)
I'm one of those odd ducks who likes to know exactly what statute is being invoked when mayors, governors and yes, presidents, start handing out dictates each more severe than the last. 'State of emergency' doesn't cut much ice with me, especially when those emergencies are almost always natural disasters of the fire and flood variety - a reading of various state codes reveals same as they usually refer to the area affected. The truth is, 'state of emergency' is a mostly ill-defined part of the law and politicians are relying on panic and fear to overstep their authority on a near-constant basis. Worse, they receive praise (reinforcement) for doing so and the cycle repeats. What is being asked/directed is impossible on a practical level. The world cannot stop for any length of time. Crying wolf about the virus may lead to the usual cynicism and, eventually, defiance. PS - the 'marshall law' disease is rampant. Those using the term a) don't know how to spell martial and b) don't understand its meaning. Poland under the USSR had martial law for a time. We have posse comitatus in the US. We have very few police per capita, as they always tell us. The National Guard are not the lightning-fast, massive, efficient outfit imagined. There may be road and airport closures but that isn't martial law. And if they try it I will be the first one out the door and onto the streets to defy it.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: rytwng 3/17/2020 7:15:41 AM (No. 348680)
If we had continued as normal would the numbers be any different? Probably not.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: LoneVoice 3/17/2020 7:30:38 AM (No. 348685)
I 1918 my grandfather was a little boy in Illinois. In a two week period he saw his mother, father, and every member of his extended family died except for his sister. That version of the flu killed otherwise healthy adults. It killed 50 million people worldwide. The Corona virus is not that kind of threat. It's an over-hyped flu. It's pretty much killing the elderly and people with other medical issues, the same people likely to die from ordinary flu. We don't freak out about regular flu because it's not it's not all that dangerous. Shutting down the country over this is just Stupid.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Kitty Myers 3/17/2020 7:34:50 AM (No. 348686)
#9 asked: "If we had continued as normal would the numbers be any different? Probably not." You're right. In fact, had the Left not gone all Alinsky -- Rule 9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." -- we would have continued living our lives just like we always do during the flu season. Some of us get sick and some of us don't. And some of us die. During the 2018-2019 flu season, there were 34,200 flu-related deaths, and there was no panic.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: gone2pot 3/17/2020 8:05:30 AM (No. 348699)
Yeah, something is definitely terribly wrong here. The pandemic is fear and panic and not corona virus. This is a power grab by governments, period. I know that because THIS flu season, the regular flu, the 1918 strain of the regular flu THIS season, has taken tens of thousands of lives and several million have had it JUST in the United States alone with not one square of toilet paper hoarded as a result. Rio Lindans, that does NOT mean Wuhan flu-coronavirus flu isn't real. It is but it is absolutely ridiculous to act like ONLY governments can stop it and ONLY governments know what to do about it. They don't. Doctors do, REAL doctors who understand microbiology and science do. 11 is exactly right as is 1. It's Rules for Radicals on steroids and nothing else, and EVERY government save a tiny few with common sense have been snookered by it. And CHINA is definitely in on the rule 9 palooza as is our deep state that failed with Russian collusion, Trump's a racist, 24/7/365 MSM Trump bashing, Ukraine and impeachment. Economies and destroying them all to get to Trump IS the goal now with this fear pandemic. I haven't been since Trump was elected wrt all the Orange Man Bad bs, but now I'm fuming and won't go without a fight.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Daisymay 3/17/2020 8:06:10 AM (No. 348700)
I'm not panicked! Yesterday I went to the Store for about 10 things I needed. I didn't go to buy up the store.; I truly don't feel it's going to come to the point that everything will close and we will be wandering around eating grass! It's crazy out there. I went to they Eye Dr. Yesterday and everything was running like a clock. Nobody even had a mask on. They did have a table set up outside the front door with Two Ladies doing Hand Sanitizer and asking me if I had traveled out of the country lately or been on a Cruise. That was it.We all need to get a grip!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: udanja99 3/17/2020 8:09:36 AM (No. 348703)
Yes, it’s mostly hype by the demonrats trying once again to take down PDT. The thing is, most sane Americans can see what is happening and they aren’t buying it. I think this will backfire big time on the left. The one silver lining is that we may finally get the southern border closed - we can point to the demonrats and their insistence on open borders and coddling (frequently unhealthy and sick) illegals as one of the reasons that this virus is here. Demonrats, be careful what you for!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Chuzzles 3/17/2020 8:31:11 AM (No. 348727)
When you compare this current virus with Swine flu or Avian flu or any of the others, I would say no it is not justified. According to a top 10 status list of nations on the weekend, we are at #8 for this virus. We didn't even make the top five. All this is is a cudgel to beat Trump over the head and to try and damage him in an election year. The media is evil regarding their exploiting this virus, and no amount of mea culpa after the fact will save them.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: PCMM 3/17/2020 8:31:18 AM (No. 348728)
No, it is an overreaction. That is the new norm ... completely freak out over the slightest thing (“It’s Ma’am ... IT’S MA’AM!” shouted the transgender man in the video store). The idiotic war on opioids allowed lazy physicians to destroy patients in pain by considering their complaints “drug-seeking behavior.” It almost physically killed me after killing my career. A year in pain from three blown discs (L3-S1 while on AD at war) had me considering suicide and the thoughts wouldn’t go away. You never really recover from that once you find out ONE simple pill could have prevented it all. The mandatory shutdowns reveal our USA is already dead. Freedom was cool while it lasted. Half of the people in my orbit just list their jobs because a few seniors (as a % of pop) got sick. These men with families have been tossed aside so that we can prevent a 93 yr old patient with dementia from dying in a nursing home. Thanks!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: PostAway 3/17/2020 8:42:52 AM (No. 348741)
I’m not in the US presently but have followed the news and gotten updates from family members. Their reactions ranged from calm and reassuring (a medical professional) to fearful of societal collapse. While watching Pres. Trump’s press conference yesterday I was left with the distinct impression that he and his advisors are trying an approach to a new virus and pandemic that is updated and should be more effective than responses to HIV/AIDS, SARS and other infectious diseases were. I also suspect that a fear of a shortage of antibiotics coming in from our good buddies the ChiComs is driving the approach. Perhaps the fear, even panic, that has been raised is something that needs to be addressed in future emergencies as an unintended consequence of their new approach among a population unused to quarantines and shutdowns.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: rsgonner 3/17/2020 8:47:03 AM (No. 348748)
Did we have a test of this when Boston went on lockdown to find the two Tsarnaev brothers? Same sort of hysteria, same sort of emergency curtailment of liberty for a "good" cause. Remember the phrase, "Never let a crisis go to waste" then Google "Event 201"...... I wonder how many billions of dollars went into George Soros' account in the last 2 weeks.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: 3XALADY 3/17/2020 8:59:22 AM (No. 348757)
Amen, #19. Boston was a real eye opener on several accounts.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Rinktum 3/17/2020 9:20:12 AM (No. 348775)
We are wise to be suspect of the reasons we are being subjected to such total chaos. Is it necessary? Is it smart? Is it politically motivated? So many questions and very few answers. What we do know is that the media cannot be truthful in its reporting. Our politicians are clearly power hungry fear mongers and we are being led around like sheep with no real facts, statistics, or data to back up the decisions we are living with now. All I can think after this chaos is do they know something they are not telling us? Are we being kept in the dark to prevent real panic? It is a terrible situation that is being made worse by people whose only desire is to harm the President. I am being compliant but it certainly does not sit well with me. I can’t help feeling that we are being played by an over reaching government pressured by an insane media circus to see how far they can push us and right now, it’s just getting too far for me. I am a good citizen but I am not a fool and will always question government. Our government has been shown to be breathtakingly corrupt in the past few years and that does not instill a lot of confidence in me. While I do trust the President, the rest of these yahoos are very suspect. There is just too much going on with this outbreak. It is either more deadly serious than they are telling us or this is a dastardly plot to try and destroy the President because he just will not play their globalist game. As I sit in my home grudgingly complying, I remain skeptical. Something is not right here.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: marbles 3/17/2020 9:38:08 AM (No. 348804)
The libs/dem control the MSM, they decide what is " news". If planet earth is hit by a large meteor and they dont cover it , it never happened. On the other hand anything that they cover 24/7 wall to wall is THE news. An that bring us to this virus which by their coverage has been made into the 21st century version of Bubonic plague. They didnt give damn about the actual everyday flu stats from last year , 80,000 American died. Why not? Because 2018 -2019 was not a presidential election year and the dems were occupied with taking down Trump through impeachment. Impeachment only affected you if you chose to watch it or read about it. This engineered panic involves your life whether you like it or not.Got money invested? Its not worth what it was only a few weeks ago, want to escape and watch sports, can't , shut down, movies? can't sit with anyone, eat out? not if the restaurant is closed, go to a library? nope, closed? go out with friends? where to go? No semblance of everyday life when you're now living in a ghost town. And for what ? All because the dems are not very good at losing . Their horror at losing the 2016 election was like a kid finding out there is no Santa Clause. Rational human beings get over it. The dems through the will gladly and gleefully try and kill America in the hope of wining in November 20202. This is how desperate they are.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 3/17/2020 9:39:58 AM (No. 348809)
From the dims' and msms' perspective, since it is an election and Trump is President, of course, it is justified. The ends justifies the means. If Billary was running for reelection, the virus would already be out of the news cycle.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Strike3 3/17/2020 9:40:54 AM (No. 348811)
Justification there isn't. My area is over 100 miles away from any known case and liberal local governments (is there any other kind?) are closing schools, businesses, overly large gatherings and sports events like an asteroid is about strike the Earth. There is going to be a huge backlash when this is over and hopefully even democrat voters will have learned something, although that hope is a stretch. We finally have the time and cheap gas prices to vacation and nowhere to go except camping in the woods, which have not been shut down - yet.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: MattMusson 3/17/2020 10:00:34 AM (No. 348827)
We may never know if we over reacted. But it will be clear forever if we over reacted.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: cor-vet 3/17/2020 10:08:58 AM (No. 348834)
The wife and I went out to lunch with friends yesterday, had a great meal surrounded by a good crowd. That now stops for at least a month. When we got home, we found out the democrat emperor of Louisiana, Adolf Edwards, had finished his goal of ruining the State. His latest round of rules shut down restaurants, bars and all non--essential businesses. And guess who will make those decisions on what's essential?. A democrat tyrant in Baton Rouge. I'm 77 and I know how to stay safe, and cowering in the house is not the way. This is not the 1st flu to go around and it won't be the last. The scariest thing to contemplate is, if this fluhoax doesn't bring down President Trump, what will the dems try next? They're getting scary desperate now!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: HotRod 3/17/2020 10:23:45 AM (No. 348853)
When the TV media has a big banner at the bottom of the screen shouting: ''PANDEMIC/ CORONA VIRUS!'' while you try to watch for some news, it tends to frighten people. I suppose they think their job is to create fear and panic among their viewers. Even Fox News...
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Reply 27 - Posted by: Chiritwo 3/17/2020 10:36:03 AM (No. 348868)
Thank you #11. I've sent your Alinsky quote to a number of people.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: planetgeo 3/17/2020 10:50:45 AM (No. 348889)
Throughout history mankind has survived and thrived as a species because we have adapted to all living conditions and essentially settled in to "survival of the fittest" as the operative strategy. The weak or less adaptive die out.The strong or most adaptive survive and reproduce to continue the species, ever stronger and more adaptive with each cycle. Until now, the implicit wisdom of that strategy has been generally accepted. Deadly viruses, like the Spanish flu, have come and gone,and other than taking reasonable measures on an INDIVIDUAL basis, life has gone on without massive SOCIETAL shutdown. The strong survived. Normal life went on. The change in strategy now is not wise. Aside from the obvious political machinations being attempted, its outcomes will not only still result in many of the weakest dying, but it will inflict ruinous changes on the lives of the strong. Businesses will be destroyed. Large numbers of formerly able and independently viable individuals will become almost TOTALLY DEPENDENT on the government for shelter, food, medical care, income, etc. as a COMMUNAL HERD. There you have it. THAT is precisely why this is being done.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 3/17/2020 10:57:18 AM (No. 348895)
The panic is far worse than the virus itself. Every time some governor (or the President) has a conference, it just re-affirms the panic. Watched Trump's press conference yesterday. He's been sucked into this, btw. Found it interesting nobody is asking for an estimate as to when corona virus started. Chinese government knew about it as early as December. Maybe even earlier considering how secretive they are. Considering the Chinese government's total disregard for its people, its conceivable they may not have noticed it for a while. So when did it start? November? When did we enact travel bans with China? Early March? My point is corona virus has been circulating worldwide longer than we think. If that is the case, where are all the deaths? I don't think the corona virus is as bad as they are making it out to be, and our government is grossly over-reacting.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: judy 3/17/2020 11:07:41 AM (No. 348908)
The biggest problem is someone is allowing the fake media to run the country. Some people call it the media virus or the election year virus.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Red Ghost 3/17/2020 11:17:52 AM (No. 348917)
The media began this stampede and they and the Dems couldn't be happier. China and our other enemies are watching how we deal with crisis. It ain't good. This started in China and I hope Trump makes them pay dearly. They need to be crushed; they need to feel the might of America. Our great country will not exist with this continuing madness. Example: Dr. Siegel said on Fox Business, he believes your dog can harbor the virus in its fur. Totally irresponsible and just adding to the panic. What's his cure, kill your dog? If this were the virus to end all humanity the news coming from South Korea, a country whose info we can reasonably trust would be devastating . Instead, they are saying most people are recovering very nicely when they get this. This hysteria and panic is very dangerous. I know the Dems, deep state, China and the media are giddy that a recession is about to hit us all. But with a market drop of 10,000 points, large numbers of people who can least afford it losing their jobs, and the country all but shut down, we could be headed for a depression. People who will initiate what was a failed coup d'etat, will happily destroy this country to get Trump. Every Republican I know believes down to their bones, that is what this is. Trish Reagan on Fox Business, got suspended for saying this is just an extension of impeachment. How right she is and now she's lost her job. Corona is not the virus to end humanity and we have lost trillions and trillions of dollars. We better figure out how to ensure this panic never, ever happens again.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: weejun 3/17/2020 11:54:01 AM (No. 348963)
I personally respect Dr. Fauci, but he continues to assert the mortality rate of Corona is much greater than that of the flu. Question: how could he possibly know that from a statistical standpoint? He has NO idea how many total cases, including mild ones - of which there literally could be thousands in China alone - which must be added to the denominator in his stats formulation for an accurate calculation. Also, he is comparing a highly vaccinated flu population (and the vaccine not only prevents the flu, but in cases where vaccinated people contract the flu it lessens the effects) to a zero-vaccinated population. Attempting to quarantine the "healthy" population instead of those that are at high risk is simply killing our economy and destined to fail, but the media continues to gleefully focus on the number of deaths and politicians who fear for their re-election aimlessly react so as not to be blamed/criticized. Colorado's leftist governor just followed suit and decreed that all restaurants and bars must close. The people depending on these businesses for their livelihood will be crushed, but Gov. Polis will get paid this week. I hate government...
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Krause 3/17/2020 11:55:51 AM (No. 348965)
The left media is just like lefty politicians, they make things worse. A lot of it on purpose.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: NotaBene 3/17/2020 12:32:25 PM (No. 348992)
The effects of the Communist Chinese Coronavirus have been vastly exaggerated. 80 deaths. Schools closed. Universities first to close. Millions of restaurant employees unemployed. People over 65 confined in California. Staff stealing masks and hand sanitizer from hospitals. The strategy if for people not go to their doctor or hospital emergency room for testing. Almost no one is being tested. Los Angeles jails releasing felons. California judges not generating arrest warrants for these that do not appear for their court dates. New York abolishing bail. Homeless defecating in the streets. A nation of weaklings trying to avoid congestion in ICUs which are always full in normal times. Importantly, the government is against the use of surgical masks in public places, the one thing Chinese, Japanese and South Koreans have tested for years as they have learned to cope with crowded spaces. It is stupid to paralyze the Nation for this CCCV that will pass in the spring. The cherry trees are already in bloom.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Harlowe 3/17/2020 12:35:45 PM (No. 348994)
For patriotic Americans, the U.S. mainstream media would be better defined as the mainstream mafia.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Casper27 3/17/2020 12:36:41 PM (No. 348998)
I like what Gus McRae said in Lonesome Dove in the river when they stole their horses......."you boys gonna get the drizzles if you don't learn to relax".....
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Reply 37 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 3/17/2020 1:25:30 PM (No. 349033)
What’s the difference between the Democrat party/Democrat media complex and Communism? NOTHING Veterans for truth not propaganda Veterans for Trump 2020
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Reply 38 - Posted by: kono 3/17/2020 1:48:57 PM (No. 349050)
Oh, it's justified from the viewpoint of the Democrats and GOPe. Nobody is remembering the clown car primary debacle, nor are they noticing the DNC screwing Bernie again, nor do they remember their failed impeachment-without-end strategy. And the hysteria has the economy poised to tank in time for the election -- when until March it had been all set to all but assure Trump's reelection. The Dems have made a YUGE comeback through collaborative manipulation of this crisis. When it finishes playing out, and the numbers turn out to be less severe than predicted, they can claim credit for that. This is on the order of KC's playoffs comeback vs the Titans this year. Or the Patriots' recent Super Bowl comeback against the Falcons.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: NotaBene 3/17/2020 2:58:34 PM (No. 349112)
I now call it the Chinese virus. Heh.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: RealityChick 3/17/2020 3:24:46 PM (No. 349134)
This proves the pure evil of the left, that they will inflict all the pain and suffering of an economic meltdown on this country to further their cause and take down our president. God help us.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: Timber Queen 3/17/2020 3:58:32 PM (No. 349175)
At a fundamental level this crisis is providing the American people with a real-time, real-life, real world experience of federalism; a federation of semi-autonomous states and localities, with national representation to handle issues common to all. The proponents of a "living" Constitution have been effective in the last half century redefining the term to imply a powerful, overarching central government...The Feds. In the not so recent past the true purpose of our federal system was a topic that led only into the wildest of the wonk weeds, glazing over the eyes of neighbors at backyard bar-b-ques. Americans are now living and seeing the difference between Constitutional governance and "progressive" socialist/communist government. The federal level is focusing on the good of the nation's citizens as a whole and supporting the needs of its member states. There are no nation-wide mandates that Columbus OH must follow the same edicts as San Franpoopo CA. Each governor, mayor or county supervisor decides what works best for their local people. This is where political philosophy becomes political reality. It doesn't take someone sleeping in a Holiday Inn to know which philosophy will prove successful in the real world. As a man we all admire often says, "We'll see what happens." ”
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Reply 42 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 3/17/2020 4:16:11 PM (No. 349202)
This is the left and the globalists last stand. When all of this is over, they will pay for what they have done together with the media. The Roman Empire was destroyed from within. That is what they want. But we will prevail. God has sent us a president that loves America and us.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Mushroom 3/17/2020 4:57:06 PM (No. 349244)
I brew beer. Survival Checklist complete. I'm sorry people are freaking out over nothing. I'm even more sorry politicians think they have to DO something. If you don't know what to do, don't do anything. Jim Baird, WHY did you vote for Nancy Pelosi's giveaway program? There is no way you could have read that before the vote. PAY ATTENTION this isn't about you and your wealth. And last, PDT, Sir, what is with this $1k? No. Don't. People will not save or build any reserves if they can count on a handout. Stop. It's not your money.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Christopher L 3/17/2020 5:01:39 PM (No. 349248)
I did what poster #19 recommended and googled Event 201. Interesting that this conference, to test the game plan for a viral pandemic, started on October 18, 2019, exactly one month before the first report of Wuhan Flu on November 17, 2019 I’m sure the planning for this started months before the actual conference. It’s almost like they already knew what was going to happen. It is also interesting who the sponsors of this conference were - World Economic Forum ( Bilderberg group ), Open philanthropy Project ( George Soros ), Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and John Hopkins - Bloomberg School of Public Health.
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Reply 45 - Posted by: EQKimball 3/17/2020 5:54:54 PM (No. 349302)
So far about 2,500 Italians have died this year of coronavirus (approximately one out of every 2,000 Italians). To put this in perspective, about 330,000 Italians will die this year of other diseases, plus another 4,000 by suicide. No one is freaking out over those numbers because since the dawn of civilization, life on this planet has been accompanied by diseases, wars, accidents. suicide and homicides. This latest virus is simply that, the latest virus. There will be more. We cannot turn the economy upside down each time one comes along. I agree with those who suspect a political agenda behind the panic. I know four physicians among my personal acquaintances. None of them is swept up into this latest melodrama.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: JJLizzie 3/17/2020 7:28:54 PM (No. 349365)
I am so stressed out about the hysteria. It makes no sense and gets worse. Every day I wake up and the numbers are not bad but the hysteria gets much worse. I am sick of the doctors on TV saying 500,000 or so people will die from it. Am I missing something? I just can't take it anymore.
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Reply 47 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 3/17/2020 8:27:22 PM (No. 349392)
The doctors keep coming up with these high death tolls for corona virus. What are they basing them on? China and Iran? The United States is not China, and it certainly is not Iran. You cannot expect the same results.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: judy 3/17/2020 10:46:07 PM (No. 349470)
When this Is over someone needs to do some deep research. The whole situation smells.
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Posted by MissMolly 4/20/2020 5:07:40 AM Post Reply
We’re going to come out of this nightmare whether the Democratic politicians like it or not. The pandemic is subsiding, so America is done with this lockdown nonsense, and the inevitable re-opening is coming. It will start out slow, then get faster, then get very, very fast, and then get finished. That’s how these things happen. But it won’t happen without #resistance. The lib establishment and its media gerbils clearly think it’s in their interest to have the Bat Gobbler flu crisis continue indefinitely. They think it hurts Trump, plus they really love wielding power over you. Just look into the dead doll eyes of Governor Karen (D-Minncounsinigan)
Former Clinton adviser on Biden
nomination: 'It’s like a suicide march’
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Posted by MissMolly 4/20/2020 5:04:24 AM Post Reply
A former adviser to President Bill Clinton has doubts that the Democratic Party will officially nominate Joe Biden to run against President Trump. “It’s hard to see. It’s like a suicide march with them. But they’re pretty stubborn people,” Dick Morris told radio show host John Catsimatidis on Sunday. Biden has not yet secured the 1,991 delegates needed to win the Democratic nomination on the first ballot but is the only candidate left in the race after Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders ended his campaign earlier this month. Morris pitched New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo as a possible replacement. Cuomo’s national profile has been elevated for his handling of the coronavirus crisis,
Wake up and smell the Alinsky:
Leftists use COVID-19 pandemic to
bring about revolutionary change
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Posted by MissMolly 4/20/2020 4:50:17 AM Post Reply
Communist-minded community organizer Saul Alinsky, in his prologue to “Rules for Radicals,” explained that the most effective activists were those who worked within the established “system,” not against it, so as to stir the revolutionary pots of change through fear. His words: “Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future,” Archives.org noted. This is Coronavirus Chaos, exemplified.
Why Has the Voice of America
Become a Voice of Confusion?
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Posted by MissMolly 4/20/2020 4:47:07 AM Post Reply
President Trump startled Washington last week by launching an attack on Voice of America, which for 80 years has been charged with presenting and explaining American values and policy abroad. Trump called it a “disgrace” that the current VOA leadership was allowing its service to repeat Chinese talking points on the COVID-19 virus. A White House statement also took issue with the news agency that called Chinese efforts in Wuhan to contain the virus a “model” for other nations. The statement also noted that VOA relied on unverified (and subsequently proven false) Chinese-government statistics in some reporting. Official Washington liberals swung into action to denounce Trump.
Andrew Cuomo and the Left’s
New Champions of Life
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Posted by MissMolly 4/19/2020 4:20:02 AM Post Reply
"Let us silence the cries of death!” So urged a passionate Pope Francis in his Easter Vigil homily to an eerily empty St. Peter’s Basilica, stirred by the lethal global COVID-19 pandemic: “No more wars! May we stop the production and trade of weapons! Let abortion and the killing of innocent lives end!” The pope was not afraid to remind those concerned about death from the scourge of COVID-19 that they should also be concerned about death from the scourge of abortion. One who ought to listen is a self-described “former altar boy” with “Roman Catholic values” — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Few Americans are battling daily
How the Obamas could easily win
eight more years in the White House
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Posted by MissMolly 4/19/2020 4:16:09 AM Post Reply
As the president of the United States shelters in place with the White House press corps, and Joe Biden gibbers senselessly into the GoPro camera in his Delaware basement, this fall’s national election has been thrown into a cocked tricorn by the coronavirus. Many of Donald Trump’s retail-politicking strengths — the huge rallies, his command of crowds — have been neutralized, and while he still has control of the narrative from his bully pulpit in the West Wing, the national media remains dead set against him, and puts the worst possible spin on every word he speaks.
More Pew: Trump edging
Biden in battleground states
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Posted by MissMolly 4/19/2020 4:09:42 AM Post Reply
Now that Bernie Sanders has bowed out of the race, we can turn our attention to the general election — quaratine-style, of course. Joe Biden’s locked in his basement, and Donald Trump is tethered to the White House, which means it might be a while before we see much deflection from the current status quo. What exactly is that status quo, especially in the states that will make the difference? Pew Research’s latest survey puts Biden slightly ahead of Trump overall, 47/45, but Trump reverses that in Pew’s battleground states:
Beer may lose its fizz as CO2
supplies go flat during pandemic
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Posted by MissMolly 4/19/2020 4:04:15 AM Post Reply
NEW YORK/LOS ANGELES - Dwindling supplies of carbon dioxide from ethanol plants is sparking concern about shortages of beer, soda and seltzer water - essentials for many quarantined Americans. Brewers and soft-drink makers use carbon dioxide, or CO2, for carbonation, which gives beer and soda fizz. Ethanol producers are a key provider of CO2 to the food industry, as they capture that gas as a byproduct of ethanol production and sell it in large quantities. But ethanol, which is blended into the nation’s gasoline supply, has seen production drop sharply due to the drop in gasoline demand as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Gasoline demand
Crowds flock to Jacksonville beaches;
model significantly lowers Florida's
expected coronavirus death toll
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Posted by MissMolly 4/19/2020 4:01:29 AM Post Reply
Crowds returned to beaches in Jacksonville Friday after Florida’s governor gave the green light for some to reopen if done safely – as a new model significantly dropped the number of forecasted fatalities in the Sunshine State. Cheers could be heard at 5 p.m. when barriers to Atlantic Beach, Jacksonville Beach and Neptune Beach came down. Hundreds of people were subsequently pictured enjoying their newfound freedom. The beaches are reopening with restricted hours and can only be used for walking, biking, hiking, fishing, running, swimming, taking care of pets and surfing, according to Jacksonville Mayor Lenny Curry. They will be open from 6 to 11 a.m. and 5 to 8 p.m.
Inside story of Cairo, the dog
that helped catch Osama bin Laden
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Posted by MissMolly 4/17/2020 4:45:34 AM Post Reply
When Navy SEAL Will Chesney first met a military working dog named Cairo, he didn’t know this canine would be The One: a fearless warrior with a soft side, an attack dog who would know the difference between a baby and a bad guy, the lone non-human US soldier to raid Osama bin Laden’s compound in 2011. Nope. Back on that fateful day in 2008, after Chesney decided to become a dog handler, he took his first instruction seriously — these dogs weren’t like pets. They were lethal weapons.
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Matt Drudge fires back after Trump
claims Drudge Report readers
'dropping off like flies'
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Posted by Ribicon 4/20/2020 11:13:18 AM Post Reply
Matt Drudge of Drudge Report fame issued a rare public statement over the weekend after President Trump claimed his website’s readership was dropping. “I gave up on Drudge (a really nice guy) long ago, as have many others,” the president tweeted Saturday. “People are dropping off like flies!” Mr. Trump and his supporters have noticed a shift in Mr. Drudge’s coverage of the president in the past year, accusing the longtime conservative must-read of adopting a leftist bent. Multiple conservative news aggregators, including Dan Bongino’s The Bongino Report, have since launched in an effort to scoop up Mr. Drudge’s readers.
Illinois Dems' $41 Billion Demand
Includes $10 Billion Pension Bailout
That Has Nothing To Do With Coronavirus
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Posted by Pluperfect 4/20/2020 4:19:00 AM Post Reply
Illinois Democrats are demanding $41 billion from the federal government for coronavirus relief, including $10 billion for Illinois's cash-strapped and underfunded public pension plan. The most fiscally mismanaged state in the union that has criminally neglected funding its public pension fund for two decades wants Washington to pull its chestnuts out of the fire? Certainly, states should get something. But what Illinois is asking for is shocking. Chicago Sun-Times: “I realize I’ve asked for a lot, but this is an unprecedented situation, and we face the reality that there likely will be additional, unanticipated costs that could result in future requests for assistance,”
Michigan Governor Whitmer sets up
coronavirus racial disparity task force
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Posted by NorthernDog 4/21/2020 8:34:55 AM Post Reply
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US needs to conduct 20 million coronavirus tests
per day to reopen fully, Harvard report says
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Posted by NorthernDog 4/20/2020 7:08:40 PM Post Reply
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This Is Really Happening: Montana County
Demands Citizens Wear Government-Issued
Arm Bands to Shop at Grocery Stores
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Posted by Imright 4/20/2020 11:18:19 AM Post Reply
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Testicles may make men more vulnerable
to coronavirus: study
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Posted by ladydawgfan 4/20/2020 10:36:05 AM Post Reply
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John Oliver Blasts Rush Limbaugh, Right-
Wing Misinformation About Coronavirus
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Posted by Harlowe 4/20/2020 3:28:30 PM Post Reply
A fired-up John Oliver laid into right-wing media on Sunday, excoriating Rush Limbaugh and Fox News hosts for continuing to downplay the coronavirus pandemic--and blaming them for the recent string of protests against stay-at-home orders and social distancing measures. (Snip) It wasn't just Limbaugh who had Oliver incensed on Sunday. The host also criticized Fox News hosts for continuing to downplay the number of coronavirus deaths in America (a number that has now topped 41,000), citing numerous examples from the likes of Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters, and Tucker Carlson.
Kerry on Push to Reopen: Trump Is Playing
‘Russian Roulette’ with American Lives
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Posted by ladydawgfan 4/20/2020 10:36:44 PM Post Reply
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Schumer: Paycheck Protection Program
delayed to get loans for minority groups
and rural areas
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Posted by Imright 4/20/2020 2:40:52 PM Post Reply
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Donald Trump tweets racially-charged
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Posted by Ribicon 4/20/2020 1:42:59 PM Post Reply
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Maya Hawke:
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Posted by Hermoine 4/21/2020 9:34:31 AM Post Reply
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Miami Herald Columnist: Packed Beaches
Will ‘Work Nicely to Thin The Ranks’
Of Trump And DeSantis Supporters
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Posted by Imright 4/20/2020 6:14:10 AM Post Reply
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