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A doctor and medical ethicist argues life
after 75 is not worth living

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Posted By: earlybird, 3/14/2020 12:10:57 PM

In October 2014, Ezekiel Emanuel published an essay in the Atlantic called “Why I Hope to Die at 75.” Because Emanuel is a medical doctor and chair of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of medical ethics and health policy, as well as a chief architect of Obamacare, the article stirred enormous controversy.Emanuel vowed to refuse not only heroic medical interventions once he turned 75, but also antibiotics and vaccinations. His argument: older Americans live too long in a diminished state, raising the question of, as he put it, “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.” (Snip)If you look at really smart people, there aren’t that many writing brand-new books


If you are not creating, your life is not worth living. Enjoying life is what he deems useless. Not contributing.

Zeke has turned up as one of Biden’s “health advisers”, “scientists”, whatever. Think about what that could bring.

Article dated August 2019 posted with Staff permission.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Terry_tr6 3/14/2020 12:16:55 PM (No. 346155)
any bets on what he says in 7 or 8 years? And remember, we were all told back in the 60/70's not to trust anyone over 30, hope I die before i get old, and about year 2000, that we were all going to be dead from global arming in 10, 12, 20 whatever years. yawn
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 3/14/2020 12:19:33 PM (No. 346158)
Hold on, shouldn't he be advising Joe Biden on how to die rather than on how to become the next President?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hershey 3/14/2020 12:24:53 PM (No. 346165)
Hey Zeke, why don't you go and jump in front of a speeding bus?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Northcross 3/14/2020 12:30:14 PM (No. 346172)
The progressive opinion leaders just love to play God with your life and the lives of others not deemed worthy. Using his perverted reasoning, we should also kill off anyone with an IQ under 90, since they are unlikely to contribute much to society. This man is morally sick.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JediJerry 3/14/2020 12:32:46 PM (No. 346176)
Another angle on population control to save the planet. Abortion is number one followed by making sure those 75 and older get to the graveyard since their consumption is not worth their contribution. This guy will be Joeker's Death Panel Czar.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Tanker76 3/14/2020 12:33:08 PM (No. 346177)
What a crock - I have an 83 year old friend helping me do archaeological work on my property. He has a wealth of knowledge, insight and contacts that are invaluable to our efforts. One of our most significant discoveries came thru the efforts of one of his friends.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Calico Al 3/14/2020 12:35:38 PM (No. 346180)
I just turned 89 Jan 18 and I would like to meet this fake in person. I still drive and have a part time job. I would like to tell him to go to streets of SF and relieve him self because he is full of s it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: heartsurgeon 3/14/2020 12:37:28 PM (No. 346184)
“whether our consumption is worth our contribution” This logic supports withholding medical care from more than the elderly. I believe it was called eugenics, back in the day.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: LadyHen 3/14/2020 12:37:49 PM (No. 346185)
What unscientific balderdash! Lots of 75+ folks lead productive lives. Mom and mil are both over 75. Both still live on their own with minimal help, both drive, do their own shopping, and enjoy spoiling their grandkids.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: shalimar 3/14/2020 12:39:23 PM (No. 346187)
FTA: His argument: older Americans live too long in a diminished state, raising the question of, as he put it, “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.” So tell me, Zeke, why don't you pontificate on all the people in their 20s and 30s who take so much more than they give? How about criminals, for example. Is their consumption worth their "contribution"?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 3/14/2020 12:43:39 PM (No. 346192)
It seems to me that this guy at 62 is a lot more worthless than most of the 70 yr olds I know so I wonder who gets to determine just how valuable you are. I would say the architect of Obamacare was not only a worthless doctor but a worthless person all around who apparently has no value to any of us. So I would like to volunteer to be one of the judges on the panel to decide the worth of people like this jerk.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bobn.t 3/14/2020 12:44:41 PM (No. 346193)
What an idiot. Life is still great for me. Hey dufus, You dont have to hope or pray. Go play in traffic.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: columba 3/14/2020 12:47:21 PM (No. 346195)
I am age 79, am a Catholic Orthodox Priest, hear confessions, counsel people with trouble, serve divine liturgy, program a rock radio station, write and voice podcasts, support a food pantry, crisis pregnancy center, and orphanage, raise a 6-year adopted daughter, speak English and understand some Spanish and a lot of Latin, have acquired a bit of Wisdom. have all of my hair.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: NancyD 3/14/2020 12:48:16 PM (No. 346197)
The negativity that consumes this guys mind is a lesson in liberalism. THIS should be a must read to those who want to read an article on the liberal mind works. With his perception of life, is that once you've contributed YOUR hard earned dollars to the Gov't you have no right to receive any of it back in the form of Social Security, all of that money should be spent on "the children". IF you are no longer working, you are useless to society and that living your life during retirement is nothing but a waste of time. I'd be so sad if I had a mind like that.... I want to see my kids enjoy their lives with their families, I want to spend time with grandkids and travel the world and see things that we couldn't do because of kids, work and life commitments. I hope to live a long life and enjoy every single day!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: marbles 3/14/2020 12:48:27 PM (No. 346198)
This from a man who advocated for abortion up to 4 yeas of age. Thats right , he advocating murdering 4 yr olds because they really are not self aware. This person is a disgusting human being...........and would fit in well with the nazi ethic .
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Reply 16 - Posted by: curious1 3/14/2020 12:49:28 PM (No. 346200)
They talk like they think they has some authority to have their evil notions followed. Like someone died and made them King. Every leftard suffers from this disease and all should be put down so we don't have to worry about them stabbing us in the back...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: LadyHen 3/14/2020 12:51:42 PM (No. 346201)
#13. God grant you many years, Father!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: NancyD 3/14/2020 12:51:54 PM (No. 346202)
Isn't this Rahm Emanuel's brother?!? I see the family has inherited this outlook. Too funny!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: TJ54 3/14/2020 12:55:45 PM (No. 346207)
He could lead by example
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Krause 3/14/2020 1:00:43 PM (No. 346211)
What about younger people who have a 'diminished life' and don't contribute to society much at all? And those on generational welfare?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 3/14/2020 1:01:33 PM (No. 346213)
A couple of thoughts: 1) he has a Godless soul (that I suggest he explore and remedy) and 2) he has a god soul. We must accept HIS definition of “contribution” and “meaning.” He is not God, the Creator and Sustainer of life. Notwithstanding his degrees, DNA, or superior air. One day he will submit to The One. Until then,......
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Right Time 3/14/2020 1:04:05 PM (No. 346215)
Let me know where your parents live, Zeke
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Winstonian 3/14/2020 1:07:12 PM (No. 346217)
I’m guessing Imanuel aced the ethics course E101 “How to apply concepts of “Soylent Green” in the real world. Prerequisites, review the film “Solent Green” and read The novel “Make Room! Make Room!”.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Namma 3/14/2020 1:12:02 PM (No. 346221)
Grandma Moses did her very best painting when she was 90! This guy is chair of the ethics department. Does anyone see whats wrong with this picture?
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Reply 25 - Posted by: mobyclik 3/14/2020 1:19:44 PM (No. 346226)
Then I guess he supports wiping out Quid Pro Joe and Crazy Bernie and just letting President Trump stay in office for the next 4 years+.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 3/14/2020 1:19:46 PM (No. 346227)
Quite frankly, Zeke, your choices are your choices, not mine. I owe it to my ancestors - who survived plagues, pillages, wars, etc., to live as long as I can. I am still productive. Keep out of my life, it is not yours to bargain with. IMHO, you are a quack, and deserve the lifetime Lysenko award for being a loon.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: PCMM 3/14/2020 1:20:13 PM (No. 346228)
I volunteer to help him out on his 75th birthday. With his permission, we’ll do it PPV with the proceeds going to his favorite charity.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Heraclitus 3/14/2020 1:22:33 PM (No. 346229)
Posting here is worth more in the reading than one word from Zeke. My only objection would be the recommendation to run into traffic... that's because it would involve the suffering of the driver of the vehicle, grief, guilt, horror. If Zeke is serious, then he needs to deal with his self-destructive impulses in a room by himself, or maybe sail off in a leaky boat in shark-infested waters. Spewing out his poisonous venom and possibly impacting the vulnerable, not just the elderly, but young people who are killing themselves in dreadful numbers, is unspeakably evil.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Maggie2u 3/14/2020 1:23:59 PM (No. 346232)
This should not be surprising. This is an organization that believes it's o.k. to kill babies, the most helpless and innocent among us, would not hesitate to kill the elderly who are ugly, wrinkled, stooped, cranky and need lots of medical help. They would also kill the mentally defective, anyone with a disease such as MS or Parkinson's, children born with Down syndrome, (if they were even allowed to be born). I am 72 and believe our parents will be the last generation to die naturally. I also believe that soon, there will be 'back-alley' clinics where courageous medical personnel will take care of those the State would kill in the name of what is best for society if we ever put these monsters back in charge.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: mackrand 3/14/2020 1:32:23 PM (No. 346239)
At 79 I‘m proud to say that I am part of that Global Arming. I’m also being creative by starting to write, when the muse hits me. Also something which may or may not show my daily attitude but I have 8 full cases of beer which I sample from time to time. Some folks should be seen and not heard from. Ever again!!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Mofongo 3/14/2020 1:42:44 PM (No. 346246)
“Medical ethics” has become a terrifying concept. I don’t want these people near me or my family.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: JHHolliday 3/14/2020 1:50:20 PM (No. 346252)
This is a perfect example of how the left thinks. Let's share this and pass it around. BTW, I am 77, Creepy Joe's age, still fish, drive, shop and get around fine. I am also a lot sharper mentally than he is. I plan to wait around until the Lord calls me home in spite of what some leftist, eugenics-loving Nazi thinks.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: stablemoney 3/14/2020 1:55:28 PM (No. 346254)
I have a lot of family members that have, and are living past 75. I do not want to lose any of them. There is a lot of wisdom in those 75+ heads.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: coyote 3/14/2020 1:55:33 PM (No. 346255)
I'll be 81 this summer. I'm working on my sixth book, too busy to bother with this guy.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: bighambone 3/14/2020 1:59:18 PM (No. 346260)
Emmanuel is one of Biden’s top medical advisors, what Seniors are going to vote for Biden so the Emmanuel can implement his plans to withhold medical treatment from Seniors? It should be evident to everyone by now that Seniors are very reliable voters!
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Reply 36 - Posted by: seamusm 3/14/2020 2:09:35 PM (No. 346266)
It's one thing to refuse for yourself extraordinary care at some advanced age like dialysis, chemo, or extensive surgery. But it is altogether different for society to make that decision for someone else based solely upon their age. Here in the USA, organ transplantation is often just not offered to the elderly but not simply because of age but because of complications are more common and survival is often not prolonged. As for Dr. Emanuel, let's wait and see if he'll personally believe his bull when he gets to 75. It has been said there are no atheists in foxholes. And their are probably no ethicists after 70 either.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: bad-hair 3/14/2020 2:10:48 PM (No. 346267)
Zeke you are a prime example that some lives are not worth living after 20.Come age 75 Zeke will be arguing that he's exempt because he's smarter than the deplorable "rest of us". Certain people (LGBTQWERETY) exhibit this paradigm All homosexual me have husbands. All homosexual women have wives. They have no intellectual depth so they are reduced to generating "shock value" to have people listen to their blather. Would somebody ask Mayor Butt Gig how long he thinks he should live please ?
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Reply 38 - Posted by: MainelySane 3/14/2020 2:11:01 PM (No. 346268)
Why not die now, Doc?
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Reply 39 - Posted by: MainelySane 3/14/2020 2:12:35 PM (No. 346269)
Anthony Fauci, M.D. age 79. He turns 80 on Christmas Eve!
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Reply 40 - Posted by: Agent Orange 3/14/2020 2:17:54 PM (No. 346272)
I turn 75 this month, I'm a published author and just sent off on 27th book. I rode a Harley Road King Classic for 70,000 miles before giving it to my best friend in 2016 who is 77. Today I drive a C6 Grand Sport Corvette and I take my wife to go out dancing (Rock n Roll, 40s swing and funk) several times a month. I'm an investigative journalist and I specialize in advanced military aircraft and Stealth. As an investigative journalist, I've landed on aircraft carriers, been to 400 feet deep in an SSBN, became an expert on all things Area 51. And I still go out in the desert in and around Area 51 and Tonopah Test Range to see where my tax dollars are being spent. There are more useless humans in the 18 to 30 age group that have no idea as to why they are on this planet. They can't pull their collective heads out of their cell phones to see the beauty around them. As an example, I called Waikiki home for four years. I was blown away by the total lack of awareness as they wander aimlessly down Waikiki's beautiful beaches without even knowing where they are. And, because of our younger generation being infected with the "Me' virus and all things them, they don't seem to care for anything or any body but themselves. I could go on, but what's the use. Have a Wuhan wonderful day in isolation. MSgt USAF (ret) MAGA KAG Trump/2020
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Reply 41 - Posted by: bad-hair 3/14/2020 2:22:56 PM (No. 346275)
A necessary second post to all you Ldotters in your advanced age. High five, good for you and many more Happy Birthdays. I myself am a young pup, only 70. I play piano better than I did when OI was 30 (which was PDG), a little Scott Joplin ragtime anybody ? and I'm still improving. Sooner or later it's going to begin to come apart some, but until then I do not intend to waste 1 minute worrying about it. I suspect Zeke's worried.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: beancounter 3/14/2020 2:23:01 PM (No. 346276)
I think in 10-15 years the “new normal” will be for people to continue to work until mid 70’s instead of mid 60’s, partly because social security and medicare benefits will shrink and partly because people will get bored with retirement.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: lakerman1 3/14/2020 2:35:06 PM (No. 346279)
it was the University of Pennsylvania that gave Old Jo biden a no-show faculty position worth 700,000 dollars or so, when he left his position of VP. And they didn't even bother to make up a job description for him.
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Reply 44 - Posted by: NorthernDog 3/14/2020 2:37:20 PM (No. 346281)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg turns 87 tomorrow. Why aren't liberals ushering her out the door?
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Reply 45 - Posted by: kono 3/14/2020 2:39:31 PM (No. 346283)
At least Qoheleth's contemplative journey eventually concluded that to apply oneself to work and to enjoy the fruits of one's labor has value and makes life worthwhile. Emmanuel supposedly means "God is with us." What a tragically ironic name for those two bone-headed brothers of bogosity to share.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: bgarrett 3/14/2020 2:57:02 PM (No. 346291)
Lets see what he says after hes 75
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Reply 47 - Posted by: ronniethek 3/14/2020 2:59:04 PM (No. 346294)
Satan in the flesh. Pure evil, this man.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: Janylou 3/14/2020 3:02:04 PM (No. 346296)
My mother lived to be almost 92. At 75 she could run circles around me. This guy is a pointy headed quack. Wait until he gets to be 75 and watch him change his tune.
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Reply 49 - Posted by: Axeman 3/14/2020 3:05:59 PM (No. 346299)
I see no reason for me to believe that I can't stay productive and creative well past my 100s. As long as fools like Zeke die before I do.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 3/14/2020 3:06:22 PM (No. 346300)
Another shining example of why the Left should NEVER, EVER be in charge of ANYTHING. "Doc", it's not your life and it should NEVER be your decision. We saw with BOCare that the Left told us what insurance we could have, what hospitals we could go to, and what doctors we could go to. The architects of BOCare thought we were stupid. We were to give the Left the opportunity to ruin the Country. Let's not make that mistake again, especially with the vile people that lead the dem party today.
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Reply 51 - Posted by: Older and Wiser 3/14/2020 3:21:14 PM (No. 346313)
Well bless his heart I hope it work out for him that way. At 89 I am very thankful it did not work out that way for me.
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Reply 52 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 3/14/2020 3:45:02 PM (No. 346329)
Zeck, why don't you start by example. You will get there. You are closer every day that passes.
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Reply 53 - Posted by: Chicagoan 3/14/2020 3:58:24 PM (No. 346335)
Best response to anything a Leftist says: "Good idea. You go first."
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Reply 54 - Posted by: watashiyo 3/14/2020 4:02:03 PM (No. 346341)
My friend who is 89 years old plays harmonica. He can play over 200 songs and enjoys entertaining residents at dozens of care homes.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: Wendybird 3/14/2020 4:05:24 PM (No. 346344)
I’m 76, feel great, work full time, enjoy every day, my family likes me. I’m sorry Ezekiel is having such a hard time. Try converting to conservatism. life might be better.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: Rumblehog 3/14/2020 4:20:49 PM (No. 346360)
Dr. Zeke "Angel of Death" Emmanuel has but 13 years to change his tune on the subject, and he no doubt will. True to the Demonrats mantra of control of human life from BEFORE cradle to grave, they seek total dominion over human life to decide who will live and who must die. These are sick, despicable, and evil individuals gathered to form a political cult of death, not much different from Islam. They are Islam with the state as god and their own laws as holy scripture.
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Reply 57 - Posted by: Sully 3/14/2020 4:24:14 PM (No. 346361)
"They’re riding motorcycles; they’re hiking. Which can all have value—don’t get me wrong. But if it’s the main thing in your life? Ummm, that’s not probably a meaningful life." Excuse me? Ezy Emanual gets to define whose life is meaningful? Says who, exactly? There is your problem right there. They think they are the measure of everything. They think they are God. Human lives are meaningful whether you find them "interesting" or not. I have to say this?
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Reply 58 - Posted by: fayebeck 3/14/2020 4:25:15 PM (No. 346362)
Icebergs for the elderly are out. They've melted.....
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Reply 59 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan 3/14/2020 4:44:40 PM (No. 346376)
I find it highly offensive that the headline calls Emanuel a "medical ethicist". This guy has absolutely no ethics or heart, and very little brain.
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Reply 60 - Posted by: tom7 3/14/2020 4:48:00 PM (No. 346378)
For myself, at 77, I would disagree. I find life to be very much worth living.
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Reply 61 - Posted by: Daisymay 3/14/2020 4:48:12 PM (No. 346379)
I remember when he said old people should die! Well, I hope he gets his wish if he wants to die at 75. Personally, I live in a Senior community, most in my neighborhood are 75 to 80. One guy is 89 and still plays softball and golfs. To us, 75 is young! And each year we have a Birthday we celebrate that we're still here, healthy, having fun and not at all ready to kick the Bucket. I thought Emanuel was a Quack working for Obama's Administration, and I still think that!!
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Reply 62 - Posted by: tom7 3/14/2020 4:49:52 PM (No. 346381)
I could imagine that life is not worth living for the Emmanuel brothers - life-long evil tends to do that to a person.
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Reply 63 - Posted by: agrunt 3/14/2020 4:56:47 PM (No. 346385)
Well, I just turned 75 and I could not disagree more. I will go no further than to say that I enjoy and my kids still need me.
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Reply 64 - Posted by: kono 3/14/2020 6:54:40 PM (No. 346490)
raising the question of, as he put it, “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.” The basic worth of human life is orders of magnitude greater than the practical value of each person's contribution. Are the elderly consuming just material resources? Or is the compassion drawn forth from others not also consumed disproportionately by the elderly and infirm? Is anything a more powerful motivator of compassion than the personal encounter with someone who is suffering and in need of help? I would contend that compassion and selflessness, authentic love and mercy, are the MOST valuable things we can find in this life. And suffering is powerful fertilizer for the harvest of mercy. But what would Zeke know about any of that...
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Reply 65 - Posted by: red1066 3/14/2020 6:59:57 PM (No. 346492)
Well #4, it's projected that 15% of the population has an IQ of 87 or lower, and that there aren't many jobs that people with an IQ that low can do. Also, I worked with someone who was over 85, and he was forced out by the company because of it. Now the company won't say so, but those of us that worked with him know better.
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Reply 66 - Posted by: DVC 3/14/2020 7:33:40 PM (No. 346530)
When he turns 75, I'll offer to help....... This is one really hideous person, someone that the world will be much better when he is gone.
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Reply 67 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 3/15/2020 4:17:12 AM (No. 346722)
Dr Zeke, mind your own business and leave the rest of us alone. Where is your buddy Tom Daschle who was of the same opinion and helped you create ZippyCare? Seems like the brothers Emanuel are bitter and want to take it out on US.
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Reply 68 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 3/15/2020 6:47:43 AM (No. 346753)
Whatever else he is, with such prescriptions he's certainly no "medical ethicist."
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Reply 69 - Posted by: franq 3/15/2020 7:50:29 AM (No. 346781)
The devil's mouthpiece. I'd hate to be in Zeke's shoes. May I point out that most of the now elderly have "contributed" their entire lives, and may be considered entitled to retirement? Or would that esoteric concept be lost on an "ethicist"? Proclaiming to be wise, they became fools....
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Reply 70 - Posted by: paral04 3/15/2020 8:59:24 AM (No. 346866)
He better be mentioning that to the DNC. Look at their presidential contenders.
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Reply 71 - Posted by: Ebenezer 3/15/2020 9:12:55 AM (No. 346882)
this is appalling. Read about the "T-4" euthanasia program in Nazi Germany. Hitler would be proud of Mr. Emanuel.
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Reply 72 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack 3/15/2020 9:59:16 AM (No. 346944)
If Zeke were an honest man he would lead by example!
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Reply 73 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 3/16/2020 8:00:02 PM (No. 348415)
When it is acceptable (and lauded) to kill unborn babies in the womb...or even outside it after birth...and sell their body parts, then there is no threshold left to be crossed. I'm 66! However, bring your lunch because it's going to be an ALL DAY SUCKER!!! I'm also a Deplorable and Bitter Clinger who has training from the best of the best! "Every Blade Of Grass"!!!
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While the media continues parroting Chinese Communist Party (CCP) propaganda in the face of the Wuhan virus, the Trump administration is firing back. In response to the outrageous charge from a Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson that the U.S. Army might have been behind the transmission of the Chinese coronavirus to Wuhan, the State Department Friday summoned the Chinese ambassador to the United States. CBS News reports that Ambassador Cui Tiankai met with Deputy Secretary for East Asia David Stillwell, wherein Stillwell corrected the record with what CBS’s sources described as “a very stern representation of the facts.” (Snip) State Department officials said the purpose of the diplomatic dressing down
Red China gave Italy money and a virus 6 replies
Posted by earlybird 3/16/2020 10:51:40 AM Post Reply
Italy is second only to Red China in corona virus deaths, despite Rome being 5,382 miles from Wuhan. Follow the money. The virus did. One year ago, BBC reported, "Italy joins China's New Silk Road project." The project was Red China bailing out Italy financially when the European Union would not. German bankers could not. Red China with a billion-dollar-a-day trade surplus from the USA could. Uganda and Tanzania are among the other nations that have become clients of Red China.(Snip)"At the heart of concerns is that the BRI is seen as a way for China to spread its geopolitical influence — an acute concern for a Europe increasingly uncertain of its place
American life in practical standstill amid
coronavirus pandemic
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Posted by earlybird 3/15/2020 1:07:38 PM Post Reply
The surge of coronavirus cases throughout the United States and around the world has brought countries to a practical standstill. While countries like Italy, Spain and China have declared complete lockdowns in an effort to curb the spread of COVID-19, life in the United States also has dramatically changed in just a week. From work to entertainment to even worship, several aspects of American life have been reordered as health officials encourage the public to carry out "social distancing" to prevent the spread of the infection.“The less public gatherings we have now the better. It’s a new virus. We don’t have immunity to it. We don’t have a vaccine
Canada Ratifies USMCA Trade Agreement… 4 replies
Posted by earlybird 3/14/2020 8:53:10 PM Post Reply
Canada completes the North American cycle with their ratification of the USMCA to replace NAFTA. Mexico and the U.S. ratified the new trade agreement last year and January respectively. The Canadian parliament did so yesterday.CANADA – Canada on Friday formally approved the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), taking the last legislative step to implementation of the deal to replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The trade deal, ratified by the Mexican legislature last June and by Congress in January, was formally ratified by the Canadian Senate Friday, and shortly thereafter received royal assent, the Canadian governor general’s approval.
White House: Donald Trump Tests
Negative for Coronavirus
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Posted by earlybird 3/14/2020 8:15:27 PM Post Reply
President Donald Trump has tested negative for the coronavirus, the White House announced on Saturday evening. “Last night after an in-depth discussion with the President regarding COVID-19 testing, he elected to proceed. This evening I received confirmation that the test is negative,” White House physician Dr. Sean Conley said in a statement released via White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham. “One week after having dinner with the Brazilian delegation in Mar-a-Lago, the President remains symptom-free. I have been in daily contact with the CDC and White House Coronavirus Task Force, and we are encouraging implementation of all their best practices for exposure reduction and transmission mitigation.”
Watch Joe Biden Forget What Year It Is
And Then Walk Away During Live
Video Stream
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Posted by earlybird 3/14/2020 6:08:43 PM Post Reply
Yikes. It’s moments like this that have more and more people understandably concerned about the mental well-being of the Democrat front-runner for president. And note too how his handlers quickly replace the image of confused Joe Biden shuffling out of frame with a campaign logo image during what was a live video stream meant to show Mr. Biden discussing concerns with voters. Trying to keep these Biden gaffes somewhat contained/hidden has become a 24/7 operation for the Biden campaign. In a bizarre, meandering livestream put on by Joe Biden's campaign today, he forgets what year it is and when, if he doesn't lose, he would be in office.
A doctor and medical ethicist argues life
after 75 is not worth living
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Posted by earlybird 3/14/2020 12:10:57 PM Post Reply
In October 2014, Ezekiel Emanuel published an essay in the Atlantic called “Why I Hope to Die at 75.” Because Emanuel is a medical doctor and chair of the University of Pennsylvania’s department of medical ethics and health policy, as well as a chief architect of Obamacare, the article stirred enormous controversy.Emanuel vowed to refuse not only heroic medical interventions once he turned 75, but also antibiotics and vaccinations. His argument: older Americans live too long in a diminished state, raising the question of, as he put it, “whether our consumption is worth our contribution.” (Snip)If you look at really smart people, there aren’t that many writing brand-new books
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Is this panic over
coronavirus justified, or not?
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Posted by MissMolly 3/17/2020 5:05:26 AM Post Reply
A friend tweeted from Ireland (in time for St. Patrick’s Day), blaming President Trump for the major decline in the value of stocks. This same friend credited Barack Obama’s economic policies when the Dow Jones Industrial Averages approached 30,000. This — and more — is part of our political, economic and medical divide with mixed messages coming from supposed professionals, amateurs and people who don’t know what they are talking about. According to, “panic” is “a sudden overwhelming fear, with or without cause, that produces hysterical or irrational behavior, and that often spreads quickly through a group of persons or animals.”
Sen. Romney proposes $1,000 handout for
U.S. adults in coronavirus stimulus
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Posted by Ribicon 3/16/2020 2:24:00 PM Post Reply
Republican Sen. Mitt Romney proposed Monday giving a $1,000 handout to every American adult in an attempt to help the U.S. economy weather the coronavirus which is devastating markets. The money is intended to “help fill the gaps” for Americans who are starting to have issues with their paychecks and bills. The senator sees it as an additional step to the House-passed coronavirus bill that includes free testing, paid sick leave and solidifies unemployment benefits. “We also urgently need to build on this legislation with additional action to help families and small businesses meet their short-term financial obligations, ease the financial burden on
All nonessential stores to be shut down across Pennsylvania
due to coronavirus
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Posted by quincy2 3/16/2020 2:53:03 PM Post Reply
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf has ordered the closing of all nonessential stores in the state effective at midnight due to the coronavirus pandemic...Restaurants and bars, except for take-out service, were also ordered to close for the next two weeks. Wolf made the announcement at a Monday afternoon news conference. The closures will be in effect for two weeks. Restaurants and bars, except for take-out service, were also ordered to close for the next two weeks. Facilities that can remain open include: Grocery stores Hospitals Medical facilities
Vice-president Stacey Abrams would make
the US a real democracy for the first time
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Posted by NorthernDog 3/17/2020 12:34:24 AM Post Reply
Democratic debates in times of coronavirus make for even less interesting television than during normal times, whatever that means in the Trump era. In Sunday night’s debate, Bernie Sanders had a double task. For the believers, to make a last pitch that he is the better candidate (which, in terms of the presidency, he clearly is). For the realists, his task was to push the inevitable nominee, Joe Biden, more to the left. He probably achieved neither, as Biden stole the show, by announcing (cleverly) that he will pick a female vice-presidential candidate, a progressive weak point of Sanders (who
Top Democrat Andrew Gillum says he is
entering rehab after he was found in a
South Beach hotel room with an escort
who had overdosed on meth
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Posted by zephyrgirl 3/16/2020 9:17:37 AM Post Reply
Former Florida candidate for governor Andrew Gillum disclosed Sunday that he is entering a rehabilitation facility, saying he had fallen into a depression and alcohol abuse after losing his bid for the state's highest post. The Democrat's statement came days after Gillum was named in a South Florida police report Friday that said he was 'inebriated' and initially unresponsive in a hotel room along with two male companions, Travis Dyson, 30, and Aldo Mejias, 56, where authorities found baggies of suspected crystal methamphetamine.
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan demands staffers wear latex gloves
and follow a strict hygiene protocol, as
she tells friends Harry feels 'helpless and
is concerned about Queen and Prince Charles'
falling ill with COVID-19
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Posted by zephyrgirl 3/17/2020 3:10:33 PM Post Reply
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are self-isolating in Canada, as Meghan confides in friends that Harry feels 'helpless' and is 'concerned' about the Queen and his father Prince Charles catching coronavirus, a close friend exclusively told 'Meghan said they are grateful, especially Harry, that they could spend time with his family before all this insanity began,' the insider explained. 'Meghan said [Harry] has been in contact with the both his father and grandmother. He urged them to stay safe and to take extra precautions.'
‘Americans Need Cash Now’—Donald Trump
Wants to Send Checks to Households Immediately
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Posted by Imright 3/17/2020 1:35:59 PM Post Reply
President Donald Trump said at the White House Tuesday he wanted the federal government to send direct payments to Americans suffering economically from the coronavirus as part of a larger rescue package. “We’re going big,” Trump said, adding, “We want to go big, go solid.” The proposal was detailed by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Tuesday during a press briefing at the White House.“We’re looking at sending checks to Americans immediately,” Mnuchin said, adding,
Democrats’ Impeachment Lawyer Tests
Positive For Coronavirus, Blames Trump
For ‘Gaslighting’ America
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Posted by Imright 3/16/2020 5:44:16 AM Post Reply
Democratic impeachment lawyer Daniel Goldman announced Sunday that he’s tested positive for coronavirus — and immediately blamed President Donald Trump for “gaslighting” America.Goldman explained his situation through a series of tweets, explaining the difficulty that he had experienced even getting access to a test and suggesting that the Trump administration was at fault for too slow a response in providing tests and spreading false information. (Tweet) Goldman immediately pivoted from sharing his news to criticizing the administration’s lack of preparation with regard to testing —
A Day at the Coronavirus Supermarket That
Communist Bernie Would Have Loved
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Posted by MissMolly 3/16/2020 4:37:12 AM Post Reply
Have you ever had an experience alone that you wished you could share with someone? For example, that happened to me on the coldest day ever in Cincinnati during the Great Blizzard of 1994. I was clerking that year for the most brilliant and gifted judge in the United States federal courts, the Hon. Danny J. Boggs of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, and it was my turn to be in Cincinnati for the week’s appellate panels. Part One — Some Rambling (So Skip to Part Two If It Bores You) Judge Boggs’s chambers are based in Louisville, Kentucky.
Jennifer Rubin’s death wish for Republicans
is factually wrong -and the maps prove it
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Posted by Magnante 3/17/2020 6:37:16 AM Post Reply
Once upon a time, Jennifer Rubin was an intelligent woman. Things started to go downhill when she went to work for the Washington Post, but what really flipped the switch in her brain was seeing Donald Trump become president. Not only did she lose perspective, but she also lost intelligence, self-restraint, and decency. Her latest flight of NeverTrump nastiness has her speculate about possible Republican deaths during a time of coronavirus. Her speculation not only reveals an even further degradation of mind and soul, but she's got things entirely bass-ackwards wrong – and a couple of maps prove it.
We Are in This Crisis because of the
Decisions of the Chinese Government
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Posted by MissMolly 3/17/2020 4:58:02 AM Post Reply
As a country, we’ve got our hands full right now. But while we’re sitting in various forms of self-quarantine, we — and a lot of other people around the world — will have a lot of time to read about the Chinese government destroying samples and suppressing information about the coronavirus in December: Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed. A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak,
Woman licks plane toilet seat
for ‘coronavirus challenge’
28 replies
Posted by Ribicon 3/16/2020 9:52:24 PM Post Reply
A woman has been slammed on social media for an alleged “coronavirus challenge” video that has since gone viral. Ava Louise, a twice-Dr. Phil guest and accused “clout-chaser” on social media, has recently gone viral for a bizarre stunt that is getting widely criticized during the global coronavirus pandemic, which is responsible for 68 deaths and at least 3,700 positive cases in the U.S. alone. In the video, which was originally shared to TikTok, the 22-year-old aspiring influencer from Miami is seen licking a toilet seat, allegedly while in a plane bathroom.
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