Renowned presidential historian Doris Kearns
Goodwin finally takes on George Washington
Washington Post,
by
Lillian Cunningham
Original Article
Posted By: abuela10,
2/17/2020 9:54:16 AM
On a rainy evening at Mount Vernon, Doris Kearns Goodwin tiptoed around a puddle reflecting light from a colonial lantern and stepped into a golf cart. It shuttled her down a gravel path to the premiere of “Washington,” a miniseries she produced for the History Channel that previewed last week at George Washington’s estate. It is airing on television over Presidents’ Day weekend.
Goodwin is a celebrity in the field of presidential historians. Her tome “Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln” became the basis for the Oscar-winning film “Lincoln,” and her biography
I watched some of it last night, until they started interviewing Bill Clinton. Changed the channel.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
hotcorner 2/17/2020 10:01:33 AM (No. 320985)
Why is Bill Clinton in this first show as a commenter that aired last night - to salvage his name after the Epstein and Hilary crimes? She is a partisan historian, biased and the show is reflecting it.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Scottyboy 2/17/2020 10:02:44 AM (No. 320991)
Nothing really new in this production that anyone who studied Washington to any extent already would know.
What really frosted my cookies was using the draft dodging scoundrel Bill Clinton as a commentator. Washington would have had a guy who lied his way out of military service and then went to a foreign country to protest his homeland HANGED......which is EXACTLY what Clinton did.
Then there was a reference about Washington being similar to 0bama because they were both raised by their mothers, of course failing to point out that Washington’s father died whereas 0bana’s father was a drunken pseudo-intellectual bum who abandoned his kids.
Cut me a break, Doris.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
HPmatt 2/17/2020 10:10:18 AM (No. 321006)
Really don't need a liberal plaigarist 'helping out' here.
Plenty of great books on GW - Joseph Ellis, Ron Chernow, David McCullough and of course the series by Douglas Southall Freeman - out of print but you can find on reserve at most public libraries (in red states and cities).
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
LadyVet 2/17/2020 10:11:56 AM (No. 321010)
She is so old, she could have slept with LBJ.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 2/17/2020 10:37:11 AM (No. 321053)
Renwoned? She is a bold face plagiarist. Only a full blown liberal can get caught plagiarizing and be called renowned and trusted. Anything she publishes or says is a lie.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
ssholland 2/17/2020 10:41:51 AM (No. 321060)
Kearns is known for plagiarism. See here:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/06/internationaleducationnews.humanities
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To # 5 she may not have slept with him but she did worship at his feet in the years before he died and thinks that everything he did was just wonderful. In an interview she spews all he did with welfare and civil rights and medicare and all those great society programs which we now know were great failures and just took time to eat at our foundations as a society of free men, she is a leftist historian so I take everything she writes with a very large grain if not a shaker full of salt.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
panther361 2/17/2020 10:53:34 AM (No. 321083)
I have not seen any of the presentation yet. I learned some time ago to record all parts and watch later when time allows. Any parts soiled by the "ne'er do wells" can be skipped. Keeps my internal pressures a bit more even.
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First of all, Bill Clinton is NOT a historian. His comments were more along the lines of comedy relief. Bill does not belong in a discussion of George Washington. He may have been elected to his chair, but that's it. The liberal bias in the show was very easy to see. Comparing Obama to George, what a bias! Come on Doris, you can do better than that! Also, there was too much made about slavery. As usual, the liberals want to paint everyone in the 1700s as a racist based on 21st century values. The problem here is the public gets it. The public puts George and his brethren in the right frame. George is the Father of his Country. He is the General of all the Armies. Remember, Congress promoted George to be of higher rank than any other General or person in the United States until the end of time! Celebrate the life and sacrifice of George Washington. Don't dwell in the cesspool of liberal bias.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
HammerDax56 2/17/2020 11:00:24 AM (No. 321095)
Why do plagiarists on the Left get away with it?
Let’s ask Biden.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Donna M 2/17/2020 11:06:14 AM (No. 321105)
Goodwin is an inside joke among historians.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DaddyO 2/17/2020 11:08:51 AM (No. 321108)
"Doris, we're looking to run a miniseries on George Washington. Probably about 500 pages of detailed research into his life history. People have done this before, some have taken years to complete their biographies. How long do you think it would take you to do?"
"Give me a few seconds.. okay done."
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Delilah 2/17/2020 11:13:14 AM (No. 321111)
Now I'm glad I watched the Rescue Dog Show on Hallmark instead. It was a fun show. I especially liked the little dogs with wheels for back legs. They went faster than the whole dogs. The show's second half is on tonight for any dog lovers reading this.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
dtrumpet2 2/17/2020 11:14:43 AM (No. 321113)
One should never trust anything written by Goodwind. Add Jon Meacham to that group of so-called historians who should not be trusted.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 2/17/2020 11:42:30 AM (No. 321138)
DKG’s only historical interest is in herself.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
NYbob 2/17/2020 11:57:42 AM (No. 321151)
Yeah, then was just like now, right? When George Washington discovered the British had infiltrated his elite unit charged with protecting him, his 'lifeguards' or the equivalent of today's Secret Service, he HUNG them. Making sure a crowd of 20,000 witnessed the event. 20,000 in Colonial times was a gigantic crowd. He also led a force of 13,000 troops out of Philadelphia to put down the Whiskey Rebellion in western PA. When the leaders were arrested before the main force got there, he returned to Philly, but told the commanding officer to march them by foot from Berlin, PA to Philly with swords drawn and if they tried to escape, 'behead them.'
Goofy liberal 'historians' like Goodwin dare to compare GW to the scum of today. Keeping the above facts in mind, imagine what George would have done to either Clinton or BO. To equate them is evil insanity.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
MDConservative 2/17/2020 12:03:03 PM (No. 321157)
History is what one makes of it. As #3 noted, there's really nothing new here, no bombshells. I watched and, except for the Clinton no-value-added nonsense (boy, he is looking and sounding elderly these days), have no particular objections to the facts presented in this first episode.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Avikingman 2/17/2020 12:03:20 PM (No. 321158)
Turned it on, with apprehension because Jeff Daniels - D, "Dumb and Dumber" was narrating, and a producer was D. Kearns, L - Leftist History Rewriter.
Lasted just over 5 minutes, before shut down. As former posters have pointed out there are much better biographies of President Washington. Btw, thanks poster for Douglas Southall Freeman recommendation.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Periwinkel 2/17/2020 12:24:09 PM (No. 321172)
Doris Kearns Goodwin, renowned, presidential historian AND plagiarist...there I fixed it.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 2/17/2020 12:32:15 PM (No. 321179)
No historian with an ounce of integrity should give credence to anything written by Doris Kearns Plagiarizer.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Gruntmedic 2/17/2020 12:39:41 PM (No. 321193)
Did someone write it for her.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
ZeldaFitzg 2/17/2020 12:45:25 PM (No. 321201)
I am DVR-ing it. Started watching last night but quickly lost interest. Amazon Prime has Newt Gingrich's "The First American," which is quite well done.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
udanja99 2/17/2020 1:50:56 PM (No. 321262)
Goodwin is a known plagiarist and fraud. Back in the 90’s she was the speaker at my 20 year high school class reunion banquet. When she was introduced at the podium, all those at their tables who were facing away turned their chairs to face her. I was the only one in the room who sat through her talk with my back turned.
Needless to say, I am not watching this shredding of history.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
kono 2/17/2020 2:01:27 PM (No. 321276)
I suspect the appropriate adjective for Doris Goodwin is not "renowned", but "notorious".
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 2/17/2020 2:51:24 PM (No. 321318)
Didn't she have a plagiarism scandal a couple or three decades ago regarding one of her books? Saw the series listed last night, but if they are letting Bubba be involved, then no thanks.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 2/17/2020 2:55:06 PM (No. 321324)
One more thought. I actually learned more about the early days of Washington by watching a show regarding The Spencer estate in England than I would from a partisan like Kearns. It seems that in the history of the Spencer holdings, Washington and his family were tenants of the Spencers. The Spencer home even has a trunk from the Washington family as one of its treasured antiques. And yes, it is THAT Spencer. Diana and her family have ties with many of our founders.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
judy 2/17/2020 7:43:31 PM (No. 321702)
Doris, you’re missing a Cocktail party at Sally Quinn’s house!!!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Penney 2/17/2020 9:05:16 PM (No. 321723)
Everyone involved in this production seems to be a lefty with a horribly biased history revisionist agenda, so it isn't worth wasting the time to watch. They should not be trying to teach such bogus propaganda. Shame on the dems' networks for trashing American history instead of presenting the truth! Who is in charge of such productions, ...Putin?
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