Post New Article

John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump

Original Article

Posted By: Hermoine, 2/13/2020 10:18:53 AM

MORRISTOWN, N.J.—Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council aide and impeachment witness President Donald Trump fired Friday, was just doing his job, former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told students and guests at a Drew University event here Wednesday night. Over a 75-minute speech and Q&A session, Kelly laid out, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s words and actions regarding North Korea, illegal immigration, military discipline, Ukraine, and the news media.

Comments:

Take this for what it's worth.

Post Reply

Reply 1 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 2/13/2020 10:23:47 AM (No. 317093)
Well sir. Your services are no longer needed. Enjoy retirement.
44 people like this.

Reply 2 - Posted by: chance_232 2/13/2020 10:24:12 AM (No. 317094)
Hmmmmmm ....... now we know why you no longer work in the White House.
45 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: john56 2/13/2020 10:30:52 AM (No. 317099)
Cripes, all these guys think that they were the first people that Donald Trump ever fired? That's the way he rolls. Get used to it and get over it. From 30,000 feet, I see working for Donald Trump as a high-risk, high-reward position. If you can run at the speed of Trump, you'll do well. If you can't, you'll know about it pretty quickly. Like they say, if you can't play with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
36 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: starboard 2/13/2020 10:30:52 AM (No. 317100)
Could Kelly be Anonymous?
25 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: rockeysroomie 2/13/2020 10:34:46 AM (No. 317105)
#4-Conway is a suspect too.
13 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 2/13/2020 10:35:54 AM (No. 317106)
Another swamper.
17 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: HotRod 2/13/2020 10:42:24 AM (No. 317113)
Another in the series of democrat soap operas ''As the Swamp Drains'' when swamp critters watch each other sucking air, on the decreasing number of shallow wet spots...
14 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: Troutgreen 2/13/2020 10:45:25 AM (No. 317116)
Recent events have challenged my previously unquestioning admiration for high-ranking, long-serving military men. Many leverage their service to get cushy appointments to think tanks and media outlets. They write tell-all books critical of their CinC and tell us how they would have done things. But that Bad Orange Man didn't listen. So they were justified in undermining and flat-out disobeying their elected civilian boss with the help of like-minded Deep Staters. And they cry when they get fired. And I REALLY don't like it when one of them transitions from being a General to being a huckster for mortgages for veterans and is splayed all over Fox news 24/7. Sorry...in a bad mood this morning. Re
37 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: obdurate 2/13/2020 10:53:04 AM (No. 317128)
Never trust anyone over one star, above that they are all political animals and dangerous.
24 people like this.

Reply 10 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 2/13/2020 10:59:27 AM (No. 317140)
Wasn't Kelly one of the officials (like Tillerson) who decided it was his job to "educate" Trump on how the world works? Their arrogance and condescension doomed them in Trump's world. Trump isn't some stupid politician who has never run anything and has been told what to do by "handlers" for his entire career He rightly resents people with fewer accomplishments who think they know more than he does.
32 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: GO3 2/13/2020 10:59:53 AM (No. 317141)
...or when lower ranking ex-military are shills for cheap sunglasses and frying pans.
12 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry 2/13/2020 11:00:53 AM (No. 317143)
John, if you want to have the power and authority of the President, then run for the office...... and WIN!
15 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 2/13/2020 11:05:40 AM (No. 317153)
Oh hush little man.
13 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: Periwinkel 2/13/2020 11:12:43 AM (No. 317160)
Where DID the President find some of these people? I love him dearly, but I think he is way, way too impressed with military people. Before you clutch your pearls, I was married to an Army Colonel now retired for 34 years. Just like all large organizations there are some real wingnuts serving our country.
26 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: judy 2/13/2020 11:31:25 AM (No. 317180)
The leaks appeared to stop when Kelly left the WH??? One thing for sure Kelly, Comey, Romney, Bolton, George Conway, Kasich, Scaramucci, Cohen can't handle rejection or the words You're Fired? The people that Trump fired that did not trash him when they left should be rehired.
11 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 2/13/2020 11:35:31 AM (No. 317186)
John, you;re NOT the President, you never were the President, and you never will be. The Boss makes the rules in foreign policy, the military, and you are just a private citizen who used to be able to work in the Administration.
12 people like this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird 2/13/2020 11:40:55 AM (No. 317192)
Kelly was another whom, I believe, was promoted to PDJT by Condi Rice (along with Mattis and McMaster). He was doomed to fail at DHS because he didn’t agree with PDJT’s illegal immigration policies, didn’t believe the wall was important, and so forth. He was a disaster at CoStaff, constantly seeming to contradict PDJT. His little speech was just more of the same. He should be a Democrat.
18 people like this.

Reply 18 - Posted by: earlybird 2/13/2020 11:42:23 AM (No. 317196)
Vindman with stars.
15 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: donnaclaire 2/13/2020 11:49:35 AM (No. 317206)
He seemed a bit spooky to me - before he was prominent in the Trump Administration. Stern, sour, dead serious - one who'd fit in well in a Bela Lugosi movie. I hope he has moments of joy and serenity, but have never seen any evidence of it. If one doesn't make a name for themselves while working for Trump, they know they'll get plenty of attention and admiration after they leave - if they have anything negative to say.
4 people like this.

Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 2/13/2020 12:02:08 PM (No. 317222)
I never did trust Kelly. I thought he was one of those "cooler heads" doing everything he could to politely obstruct, cajole, misdirect and redirect the President. That is NOT what we or the President needs. Good riddance of you, Mr. Kelly.
11 people like this.

Reply 21 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 2/13/2020 12:10:16 PM (No. 317236)
Another government functionary who has started believing his own BS. Amazing how many staff people think they and their ideas should be running this Country.
8 people like this.

Reply 22 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 2/13/2020 12:16:04 PM (No. 317246)
#8 - Minor correction: Tom Lynch is a retired rear admiral. Still a flag officer, though.
4 people like this.

Reply 23 - Posted by: Daisymay 2/13/2020 12:21:03 PM (No. 317257)
Have to hand it to The President. He can pick out a Phony a mile away. He knew, before anyone else even suspected, Kelly was not a Team Player. Same with Rex T. Glad he gave them the Door when he did, before they could cause him more trouble than they already did!
7 people like this.

Reply 24 - Posted by: save America 2/13/2020 12:23:01 PM (No. 317260)
What do they have on this guy to cause him to lose his mind?Could he on the list of dirty politicians that paid off their victims with taxpayer money?Remember the list.You can bet Pelosi has the list.
4 people like this.

Reply 25 - Posted by: Starboard_side 2/13/2020 12:30:43 PM (No. 317273)
Kelly was brought on for Homeland Security, and was a convenient option for Chief of Staff when Trump needed on quickly. Kelly likely knew early-on, CoS was not a position for him. As far as LTC Vindman, he seems more likely to have been the lookout man for the deals in Ukraine, which he essentially testified to, than providing National Security advice to his direct superior, the POTUS.
3 people like this.

Reply 26 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 2/13/2020 12:39:03 PM (No. 317284)
F off ingrate. Trump gave you a job and you couldn't do it. No one cares what you think.
6 people like this.

Reply 27 - Posted by: JediJerry 2/13/2020 1:16:19 PM (No. 317341)
Another Trump-hating Deep State backstabbing lying saboteur goes swirling down the drain. Don't let the door hit ya!
3 people like this.

Reply 28 - Posted by: davew 2/13/2020 1:29:45 PM (No. 317359)
Vindman did not go to his superior, Tim Morrison, with his complaint. He went around the chain of command and jeopardized national security by triggering an impeachment hoax based on a policy difference with his Commander in Chief. Palace politics will always be a part of any administration but what's remarkable is that Trump eventually prevails because he is the greater man than any of the swamp creatures that he has to endure. If he ever loses the confidence of the people in the country that understand and support him he will be an easy target for the coup plotters but with patriots at his back they can't touch him.
11 people like this.

Reply 29 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin 2/13/2020 1:34:51 PM (No. 317366)
What John Kelly (he served in Vietnam!) thinks or talks about is of no concern to me.
3 people like this.

Reply 30 - Posted by: ronniethek 2/13/2020 1:45:58 PM (No. 317380)
Low class/no class scumb-g.
4 people like this.

Reply 31 - Posted by: The Remnants 2/13/2020 2:18:50 PM (No. 317408)
Never read The Atlantic. Too much to read without spending time with people who hate plain people or The President.
4 people like this.

Reply 32 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 2/13/2020 2:27:09 PM (No. 317413)
Once upon a time he seemed like a stand up guy, but sadly it turns out he was just another swamp critter. Good riddance.
4 people like this.

Reply 33 - Posted by: InsaneSanity2 2/13/2020 2:35:33 PM (No. 317420)
I think a lot of these jackwads believed that they could come in and run their own agenda because they thought Trump was naïve and was going to be a pushover. Thank God, that was not the case.
6 people like this.

Reply 34 - Posted by: MISteve 2/13/2020 4:04:45 PM (No. 317501)
#28's got it right: Vindman went outside of the chain of command. That is not "just doing his job"; just the opposite. Why isn't Vindman up on charges for doing so?
2 people like this.

Reply 35 - Posted by: XCenturion 2/13/2020 11:59:31 PM (No. 317910)
No wonder Trump showed John Kelly the door. Another "never Trumper" exposed.
1 person likes this.

Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "Hermoine"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Most Recent Articles posted by Hermoine"
What’s the COVID-19 end game? 7 replies
Posted by Hermoine 3/17/2020 9:53:28 AM Post Reply
So, here we are. Pretty much nobody’s going to school on Monday, thousands are working from home, stores are struggling to stock their shelves and health officials are scrambling to respond to an unknown number of patients who will be taken ill with COVID-19. Unprecedented actions taken since Wednesday to halt the spread of the coronavirus, from the total shutdown of K-12 school districts to significant curtailment of public gatherings, will surely have significant social and economic costs.
John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump 35 replies
Posted by Hermoine 2/13/2020 10:18:53 AM Post Reply
MORRISTOWN, N.J.—Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council aide and impeachment witness President Donald Trump fired Friday, was just doing his job, former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told students and guests at a Drew University event here Wednesday night. Over a 75-minute speech and Q&A session, Kelly laid out, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s words and actions regarding North Korea, illegal immigration, military discipline, Ukraine, and the news media.
White House violated the law by
freezing Ukraine aid, GAO says
46 replies
Posted by Hermoine 1/16/2020 10:16:42 AM Post Reply
The White House budget office violated the law when it froze U.S. military aid to Ukraine, the Government Accountability Office concluded in a new report. “Faithful execution of the law does not permit the president to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law,” the GAO wrote in an eight-page report. Several witnesses who testified before House impeachment investigators said President Donald Trump ordered the hold on the critical military assistance.
"There will be dead Americans"
as a result of Iran general
being killed, ex-CIA deputy director says
37 replies
Posted by Hermoine 1/4/2020 1:23:33 PM Post Reply
The targeted killing of Qassem Soleimani, one of Iran's top military leaders, has escalated tensions between the U.S. and Iran, with Iran vowing revenge. CBS News senior national security contributor, and former acting and deputy CIA director Michael Morell told "CBS This Morning" the drone strike on Soleimani will lead to "dead civilian Americans." "Soleimani was an evil genius, he had a lot of American blood on his hands," Morell said. "The world is a better place without him. The problem is that comes at a very high cost. Number one, there will be dead Americans, dead civilian Americans, as a result of this.
Trump is not a lawyer - Ruth Bader Ginsburg 33 replies
Posted by Hermoine 12/17/2019 5:10:38 PM Post Reply
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has responded to Donald Trump's call for the top US court to stop impeachment. "The president is not a lawyer," she told the BBC in an exclusive interview, adding: "He's not law trained." In a wide-ranging conversation, she also said poor women were victims of restrictive abortion access. The US president is expected to be impeached by the House of Representatives on Wednesday.
‘Corroboration Zero’: An Inspector General’s
Report Reveals the Steele Dossier
Was Always a Joke
8 replies
Posted by Hermoine 12/12/2019 9:38:37 AM Post Reply
The Guardian headline reads: “DOJ Internal watchdog report clears FBI of illegal surveillance of Trump adviser.” If the report released Monday by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz constitutes a “clearing” of the FBI, never clear me of anything. Holy God, what a clown show the Trump-Russia investigation was. Like the much-ballyhooed report by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the Horowitz report is a Rorschach test, in which partisans will find what they want to find.
US diplomat: Trump linked Ukraine aid to demand for probe 11 replies
Posted by Hermoine 10/22/2019 8:30:33 PM Post Reply
WASHINGTON (AP) — A top U.S. diplomat testified Tuesday that President Donald Trump was holding back military aid for Ukraine unless the country agreed to investigate Democrats and a company linked to Joe Biden’s family, providing lawmakers with a detailed new account of the quid pro quo central to the impeachment probe. In a lengthy opening statement to House investigators obtained The Associated Press, William Taylor described Trump’s demand that “everything” President Volodymyr Zelenskiy wanted...
Man convicted for killing woman
in front of her children
7 replies
Posted by Hermoine 7/18/2019 11:06:56 AM Post Reply
A man who served decades in prison for stabbing his wife 14 times in front of her daughter was convicted Wednesday in a nearly identical crime — stabbing a woman at least 11 times while her twin children watched. Albert Flick, 77, who was previously deemed too old to be a threat by a judge, was convicted in the 2018 death of Kimberly Dobbie. Jurors deliberated less than an hour before reaching its guilty verdict.
The Sad Final Days of a
Very Funny Man: Inside Comedian
Brody Stevens' Tragic Death
12 replies
Posted by Hermoine 6/20/2019 3:46:46 PM Post Reply
For A-listers like Zach Galifianakis and Sarah Silverman, Stevens wasn’t just a friend, he was a comic savant, one of the few acts they would drop everything to watch — leaving them to wonder: Why did he take his own life just as his career was heating up? Howard Kremer hadn't heard from his friend and fellow comedian Brody Stevens for a couple of days.
World’s tiniest surviving baby
weighed just 8.6 ounces when she
was born in San Diego
2 replies
Posted by Hermoine 5/30/2019 3:23:01 PM Post Reply
SAN DIEGO, CALIF. — The world’s tiniest surviving baby, weighing just 8.6 ounces when she was born in December, went home this month as a healthy 5-pound infant. The baby, nicknamed Saybie by medical staffers at Sharp Mary Birch Hospital in San Diego, was born there at just over 23 weeks’ gestation. Her mother had developed preeclampsia, and doctors decided to perform an emergency cesarean section, according to hospital officials.
Blurred lines: A pregnant man’s tragedy tests gender notions 47 replies
Posted by Hermoine 5/16/2019 9:42:10 AM Post Reply
When the man arrived at the hospital with severe abdominal pains, a nurse didn’t consider it an emergency, noting that he was obese and had stopped taking blood pressure medicines. In reality, he was pregnant — a transgender man in labor that was about to end in a stillbirth. The tragic case, described in Wednesday’s New England Journal of Medicine, points to larger issues about assigning labels or making assumptions
Stonehenge: DNA reveals origin of builders 7 replies
Posted by Hermoine 4/17/2019 9:37:40 AM Post Reply
The ancestors of the people who built Stonehenge travelled west across the Mediterranean before reaching Britain, a study has shown. Researchers compared DNA extracted from Neolithic human remains found across Britain with that of people alive at the same time in Europe. The Neolithic inhabitants were descended from populations originating in Anatolia (modern Turkey) that moved to Iberia before heading north. They reached Britain in about 4,000BC.
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Is this panic over
coronavirus justified, or not?
50 replies
Posted by MissMolly 3/17/2020 5:05:26 AM Post Reply
A friend tweeted from Ireland (in time for St. Patrick’s Day), blaming President Trump for the major decline in the value of stocks. This same friend credited Barack Obama’s economic policies when the Dow Jones Industrial Averages approached 30,000. This — and more — is part of our political, economic and medical divide with mixed messages coming from supposed professionals, amateurs and people who don’t know what they are talking about. According to Dictionary.com, “panic” is “a sudden overwhelming fear, with or without cause, that produces hysterical or irrational behavior, and that often spreads quickly through a group of persons or animals.”
Vice-president Stacey Abrams would make
the US a real democracy for the first time
41 replies
Posted by NorthernDog 3/17/2020 12:34:24 AM Post Reply
Democratic debates in times of coronavirus make for even less interesting television than during normal times, whatever that means in the Trump era. In Sunday night’s debate, Bernie Sanders had a double task. For the believers, to make a last pitch that he is the better candidate (which, in terms of the presidency, he clearly is). For the realists, his task was to push the inevitable nominee, Joe Biden, more to the left. He probably achieved neither, as Biden stole the show, by announcing (cleverly) that he will pick a female vice-presidential candidate, a progressive weak point of Sanders (who
EXCLUSIVE: Meghan demands staffers wear latex gloves
and follow a strict hygiene protocol, as
she tells friends Harry feels 'helpless and
is concerned about Queen and Prince Charles'
falling ill with COVID-19
40 replies
Posted by zephyrgirl 3/17/2020 3:10:33 PM Post Reply
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are self-isolating in Canada, as Meghan confides in friends that Harry feels 'helpless' and is 'concerned' about the Queen and his father Prince Charles catching coronavirus, a close friend exclusively told DailyMail.com. 'Meghan said they are grateful, especially Harry, that they could spend time with his family before all this insanity began,' the insider explained. 'Meghan said [Harry] has been in contact with the both his father and grandmother. He urged them to stay safe and to take extra precautions.'
‘Americans Need Cash Now’—Donald Trump
Wants to Send Checks to Households Immediately
39 replies
Posted by Imright 3/17/2020 1:35:59 PM Post Reply
President Donald Trump said at the White House Tuesday he wanted the federal government to send direct payments to Americans suffering economically from the coronavirus as part of a larger rescue package. “We’re going big,” Trump said, adding, “We want to go big, go solid.” The proposal was detailed by Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Tuesday during a press briefing at the White House.“We’re looking at sending checks to Americans immediately,” Mnuchin said, adding,
Jennifer Rubin’s death wish for Republicans
is factually wrong -and the maps prove it
30 replies
Posted by Magnante 3/17/2020 6:37:16 AM Post Reply
Once upon a time, Jennifer Rubin was an intelligent woman. Things started to go downhill when she went to work for the Washington Post, but what really flipped the switch in her brain was seeing Donald Trump become president. Not only did she lose perspective, but she also lost intelligence, self-restraint, and decency. Her latest flight of NeverTrump nastiness has her speculate about possible Republican deaths during a time of coronavirus. Her speculation not only reveals an even further degradation of mind and soul, but she's got things entirely bass-ackwards wrong – and a couple of maps prove it.
We Are in This Crisis because of the
Decisions of the Chinese Government
28 replies
Posted by MissMolly 3/17/2020 4:58:02 AM Post Reply
As a country, we’ve got our hands full right now. But while we’re sitting in various forms of self-quarantine, we — and a lot of other people around the world — will have a lot of time to read about the Chinese government destroying samples and suppressing information about the coronavirus in December: Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed. A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak,
Fox News gives showboat Andrew Cuomo
airtime to pretend he’s POTUS
25 replies
Posted by Imright 3/17/2020 11:14:30 AM Post Reply
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo sparked a backlash for his grandstanding criticism of the federal government’s response to the coronavirus crisis. The Democrat governor called out the “chaos” of Washington’s handling of the pandemic, essentially calling for the country to turn from its founding principles by urging coordinated action on a national level.(Video) “You look at the countries who have handled this, I don’t care if it’s China or South Korea, if it’s Italy. They were all handled by national leadership,” Cuomo said in a press conference on Monday. “This is a national problem. It can not be done in a piecemeal method. You need federal parameters
Why Can’t Liberals Do Arithmetic? 25 replies
Posted by MissMolly 3/17/2020 4:54:46 AM Post Reply
Who can forget the wonderful moment on MSNBC when Brian Williams and a guest from the New York Times Editorial Board assured us that Michael Bloomberg’s $500 million campaign spending worked out to $1 million for each one of the 327 million people in the United States? That was mind-numbingly stupid, but Bernie Sanders’ press secretary has equaled it, curiously with another 500 million mistake:(Snip for tweet) There are not 500 million Americans, let alone 500 million who go bankrupt each year, let alone 500 million who go bankrupt on account of medical expenses. It is hard to understand where Ms. Gray got her 500 million figure. The actual number
CNN’s Dana Bash Praises President Trump’s
Leadership on Coronavirus, ‘He is
the Kind of Leader People Need and
Yearn For in Times of Crisis’ (Video)
23 replies
Posted by Imright 3/17/2020 5:27:46 PM Post Reply
CNN’s Dana Bash on Tuesday praised President Trump’s leadership on the Coronavirus. President Trump gave a press briefing from the White House on Tuesday to address his administration’s ongoing efforts to calm the Coronavirus panic and bring financial relief to Americans.The Trump admin is looking at sending Americans emergency Coronavirus checks within the next two weeks. Dana Bash was impressed with President Trump’s leadership…hell must have frozen over! “He is being the kind of leader…that people need and want and yearn for in times of crisis
China to revoke credentials of American
journalists from the New York Times,
Washington Post and Wall Street Journal
22 replies
Posted by LittleHoodedMonk 3/17/2020 3:02:26 PM Post Reply
China says it will revoke the credentials of Americans at three U.S. newspapers in response to new U.S. restrictions on Chinese media. In a news release posted online, the Foreign Ministry said early Wednesday that China demands American journalists working for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post whose credentials are due to expire before the end of 2020 to hand back their press cards within 10 days. The Chinese government says they won’t be allowed to keep working as journalists in mainland China, Hong Kong or Macao.
Iran warns 'MILLIONS' of its citizens could
die from coronavirus if the public ignore
restrictions, as 85,000 prisoners are freed
from jails and deaths spike by 135 to 988
20 replies
Posted by LittleHoodedMonk 3/17/2020 10:16:38 AM Post Reply
Iran has issued its most dire warning about coronavirus, suggesting 'millions' could die in the Islamic Republic if the public keeps ignoring health guidance. A state television journalist who is also a medical doctor gave the warning after Shiite faithful pushed their way into the courtyards of two major shrines that had just been closed over fears of the virus. The country said today it has temporarily freed around 85,000 prisoners including political detainees in a bid to stop the spread of coronavirus. It comes as deaths in the Islamic Republic spike by 135 – a 13% rise. The coronavirus has killed 135 more people in Iran,
Bernie Sanders proposes $2,000 per
month check to every household
19 replies
Posted by Ribicon 3/17/2020 8:53:19 PM Post Reply
Sen. Bernard Sanders said Tuesday the federal government should consider giving every household $2,000 per month to help them deal with the financial fallout from the coronavirus. Mr. Sanders outlined a broad bailout package for Americans, saying unemployment compensation should be expanded to cover everyone who loses a job and to cover 100% of an individual’s salary up to $75,000. He said he will be presenting his package of proposals to Senate leaders this week. The plan calls for a moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, and for the suspension of mortgage loan payments for primary residences. It calls for rental assistance to be provided
Post New Article