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John Kelly Finally Lets Loose on Trump

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Posted By: Hermoine, 2/13/2020 10:18:53 AM

MORRISTOWN, N.J.—Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, the former National Security Council aide and impeachment witness President Donald Trump fired Friday, was just doing his job, former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly told students and guests at a Drew University event here Wednesday night. Over a 75-minute speech and Q&A session, Kelly laid out, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s words and actions regarding North Korea, illegal immigration, military discipline, Ukraine, and the news media.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs 2/13/2020 10:23:47 AM (No. 317093)
Well sir. Your services are no longer needed. Enjoy retirement.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: chance_232 2/13/2020 10:24:12 AM (No. 317094)
Hmmmmmm ....... now we know why you no longer work in the White House.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: john56 2/13/2020 10:30:52 AM (No. 317099)
Cripes, all these guys think that they were the first people that Donald Trump ever fired? That's the way he rolls. Get used to it and get over it. From 30,000 feet, I see working for Donald Trump as a high-risk, high-reward position. If you can run at the speed of Trump, you'll do well. If you can't, you'll know about it pretty quickly. Like they say, if you can't play with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: starboard 2/13/2020 10:30:52 AM (No. 317100)
Could Kelly be Anonymous?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: rockeysroomie 2/13/2020 10:34:46 AM (No. 317105)
#4-Conway is a suspect too.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 2/13/2020 10:35:54 AM (No. 317106)
Another swamper.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: HotRod 2/13/2020 10:42:24 AM (No. 317113)
Another in the series of democrat soap operas ''As the Swamp Drains'' when swamp critters watch each other sucking air, on the decreasing number of shallow wet spots...
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Troutgreen 2/13/2020 10:45:25 AM (No. 317116)
Recent events have challenged my previously unquestioning admiration for high-ranking, long-serving military men. Many leverage their service to get cushy appointments to think tanks and media outlets. They write tell-all books critical of their CinC and tell us how they would have done things. But that Bad Orange Man didn't listen. So they were justified in undermining and flat-out disobeying their elected civilian boss with the help of like-minded Deep Staters. And they cry when they get fired. And I REALLY don't like it when one of them transitions from being a General to being a huckster for mortgages for veterans and is splayed all over Fox news 24/7. Sorry...in a bad mood this morning. Re
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Reply 9 - Posted by: obdurate 2/13/2020 10:53:04 AM (No. 317128)
Never trust anyone over one star, above that they are all political animals and dangerous.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 2/13/2020 10:59:27 AM (No. 317140)
Wasn't Kelly one of the officials (like Tillerson) who decided it was his job to "educate" Trump on how the world works? Their arrogance and condescension doomed them in Trump's world. Trump isn't some stupid politician who has never run anything and has been told what to do by "handlers" for his entire career He rightly resents people with fewer accomplishments who think they know more than he does.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: GO3 2/13/2020 10:59:53 AM (No. 317141)
...or when lower ranking ex-military are shills for cheap sunglasses and frying pans.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry 2/13/2020 11:00:53 AM (No. 317143)
John, if you want to have the power and authority of the President, then run for the office...... and WIN!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Toby Ten Bears 2/13/2020 11:05:40 AM (No. 317153)
Oh hush little man.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Periwinkel 2/13/2020 11:12:43 AM (No. 317160)
Where DID the President find some of these people? I love him dearly, but I think he is way, way too impressed with military people. Before you clutch your pearls, I was married to an Army Colonel now retired for 34 years. Just like all large organizations there are some real wingnuts serving our country.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: judy 2/13/2020 11:31:25 AM (No. 317180)
The leaks appeared to stop when Kelly left the WH??? One thing for sure Kelly, Comey, Romney, Bolton, George Conway, Kasich, Scaramucci, Cohen can't handle rejection or the words You're Fired? The people that Trump fired that did not trash him when they left should be rehired.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 2/13/2020 11:35:31 AM (No. 317186)
John, you;re NOT the President, you never were the President, and you never will be. The Boss makes the rules in foreign policy, the military, and you are just a private citizen who used to be able to work in the Administration.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird 2/13/2020 11:40:55 AM (No. 317192)
Kelly was another whom, I believe, was promoted to PDJT by Condi Rice (along with Mattis and McMaster). He was doomed to fail at DHS because he didn’t agree with PDJT’s illegal immigration policies, didn’t believe the wall was important, and so forth. He was a disaster at CoStaff, constantly seeming to contradict PDJT. His little speech was just more of the same. He should be a Democrat.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: earlybird 2/13/2020 11:42:23 AM (No. 317196)
Vindman with stars.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: donnaclaire 2/13/2020 11:49:35 AM (No. 317206)
He seemed a bit spooky to me - before he was prominent in the Trump Administration. Stern, sour, dead serious - one who'd fit in well in a Bela Lugosi movie. I hope he has moments of joy and serenity, but have never seen any evidence of it. If one doesn't make a name for themselves while working for Trump, they know they'll get plenty of attention and admiration after they leave - if they have anything negative to say.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: DVC 2/13/2020 12:02:08 PM (No. 317222)
I never did trust Kelly. I thought he was one of those "cooler heads" doing everything he could to politely obstruct, cajole, misdirect and redirect the President. That is NOT what we or the President needs. Good riddance of you, Mr. Kelly.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 2/13/2020 12:10:16 PM (No. 317236)
Another government functionary who has started believing his own BS. Amazing how many staff people think they and their ideas should be running this Country.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter 2/13/2020 12:16:04 PM (No. 317246)
#8 - Minor correction: Tom Lynch is a retired rear admiral. Still a flag officer, though.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Daisymay 2/13/2020 12:21:03 PM (No. 317257)
Have to hand it to The President. He can pick out a Phony a mile away. He knew, before anyone else even suspected, Kelly was not a Team Player. Same with Rex T. Glad he gave them the Door when he did, before they could cause him more trouble than they already did!
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Reply 24 - Posted by: save America 2/13/2020 12:23:01 PM (No. 317260)
What do they have on this guy to cause him to lose his mind?Could he on the list of dirty politicians that paid off their victims with taxpayer money?Remember the list.You can bet Pelosi has the list.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Starboard_side 2/13/2020 12:30:43 PM (No. 317273)
Kelly was brought on for Homeland Security, and was a convenient option for Chief of Staff when Trump needed on quickly. Kelly likely knew early-on, CoS was not a position for him. As far as LTC Vindman, he seems more likely to have been the lookout man for the deals in Ukraine, which he essentially testified to, than providing National Security advice to his direct superior, the POTUS.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 2/13/2020 12:39:03 PM (No. 317284)
F off ingrate. Trump gave you a job and you couldn't do it. No one cares what you think.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: JediJerry 2/13/2020 1:16:19 PM (No. 317341)
Another Trump-hating Deep State backstabbing lying saboteur goes swirling down the drain. Don't let the door hit ya!
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Reply 28 - Posted by: davew 2/13/2020 1:29:45 PM (No. 317359)
Vindman did not go to his superior, Tim Morrison, with his complaint. He went around the chain of command and jeopardized national security by triggering an impeachment hoax based on a policy difference with his Commander in Chief. Palace politics will always be a part of any administration but what's remarkable is that Trump eventually prevails because he is the greater man than any of the swamp creatures that he has to endure. If he ever loses the confidence of the people in the country that understand and support him he will be an easy target for the coup plotters but with patriots at his back they can't touch him.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin 2/13/2020 1:34:51 PM (No. 317366)
What John Kelly (he served in Vietnam!) thinks or talks about is of no concern to me.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: ronniethek 2/13/2020 1:45:58 PM (No. 317380)
Low class/no class scumb-g.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: The Remnants 2/13/2020 2:18:50 PM (No. 317408)
Never read The Atlantic. Too much to read without spending time with people who hate plain people or The President.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 2/13/2020 2:27:09 PM (No. 317413)
Once upon a time he seemed like a stand up guy, but sadly it turns out he was just another swamp critter. Good riddance.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: InsaneSanity2 2/13/2020 2:35:33 PM (No. 317420)
I think a lot of these jackwads believed that they could come in and run their own agenda because they thought Trump was naïve and was going to be a pushover. Thank God, that was not the case.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: MISteve 2/13/2020 4:04:45 PM (No. 317501)
#28's got it right: Vindman went outside of the chain of command. That is not "just doing his job"; just the opposite. Why isn't Vindman up on charges for doing so?
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Reply 35 - Posted by: XCenturion 2/13/2020 11:59:31 PM (No. 317910)
No wonder Trump showed John Kelly the door. Another "never Trumper" exposed.
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