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Breaking News: Senate votes to limit Donald
Trump's powers to wage war on Iran after
eight Republicans defy him to side
with Democrats

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Posted By: Imright, 2/13/2020 9:40:46 PM

The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday limiting President Donald Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran. Eight Republicans joined with Democrats to pass the resolution by a 55-45 vote. The rebels were Lamar Alexander; Bill Cassidy; Susan Collins; Mike Lee; Jerry Moran; Lisa Murkowski; Rand Paul; and Todd Young. The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: voxpopuli 2/13/2020 9:48:03 PM (No. 317817)
Lamar Alexander; Bill Cassidy; Susan Collins; Mike Lee; Jerry Moran; Lisa Murkowski; Rand Paul; and Todd Young. knock yourselves out.. WE'RE gonna knock you out next election
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Turninggrey 2/13/2020 9:52:30 PM (No. 317821)
Traitors.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: bpl40 2/13/2020 9:54:01 PM (No. 317823)
Without Presidential approval, it isn't worth the paper it is written on. Eight Republicans just primaries themselves. PDT has over 90% backing.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rotten in Denmark 2/13/2020 9:56:19 PM (No. 317827)
You’ll never see a Democrat majority siding with a Republican minority against a Democrat President. Absolutely disgusting.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 2/13/2020 9:56:46 PM (No. 317828)
Gimmie a V! Gimmie an E! Gimmie a T! Gimmie an O! What's that spell? VETO!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 2/13/2020 9:57:34 PM (No. 317829)
Veto expected and no supermajority to overcome it. Lee is a fool, and so is Cassidy. Joining other fools known for this kind of nonsense. Notice who’s missing?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DanvilleBill 2/13/2020 9:59:26 PM (No. 317831)
The DESPICABLE eight. How I wish we could flush the RINO's and Libertarians that think our Constitution is a suicide pact.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney 2/13/2020 10:00:18 PM (No. 317832)
These Senators are making it difficult for Trump to do his job. The Senators should keep their mouth shuts. Barr and McConnell should agree with this as they scolded Trump for daring to speak.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BarryNo 2/13/2020 10:00:36 PM (No. 317833)
Unconstitutional
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Reply 10 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 2/13/2020 10:02:06 PM (No. 317834)
#1 now we know their names. Trump doesn't have to declare war to Iran. Iran will self implode by itself with sanctions and a revolution from within.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: judy 2/13/2020 10:02:09 PM (No. 317835)
8 fake republicans sided with radical Senator Tim Kaine???? Romney's face has not been seen since he voted against Trump. Lee & Romney take turns going against Trump. Utah can do better.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: chumley 2/13/2020 10:09:32 PM (No. 317842)
I still think it is a good idea to limit the powers of government any way we can. We have been fighting never ending wars for most of this nation's history, yet we have been attacked very few times and war has rarely been declared by congress. It is far too easy for the president, any president, to just go out and start another one. How long have we been in the middle east? 30 years? Isn't that long enough for a war? It only took four years to defeat the Axis. It took about four years to lose in Korea and maybe 15 to lose in Viet Nam. Just shut it all down. Defense contractors and their bribe accepting political buddies can go get honest jobs.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: JediJerry 2/13/2020 10:12:46 PM (No. 317848)
Rebels? I would call them something else. I think Trump will veto it and i don’t think their is a super majority to override.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: NYbob 2/13/2020 10:13:56 PM (No. 317849)
Once you buy a Senator, they stay bought. Here is an sort of old article from PolitiFact that claims just because someone in the US Government took money from a group with Iran in it's name as campaign contributions, doesn't mean it is a bribe. Besides they claim, both sides took the Iran PAC money. So what? It's wrong and playing word games is the go to argument for every rat. If you need to take money from foreign interests, you need to structure a better campaign. Foreigners must marvel at how easy it is to buy the laws, regulations and favors they want from craven US politicians. Rand Paul and ex senator 'stole his seat' franken were two who took the money- https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/01/blog-posting/internet-posts-say-three-democratic-senators-took-/
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Reply 15 - Posted by: snakeoil 2/13/2020 10:21:09 PM (No. 317854)
So if Iran bombs Pearl Harbor PT can even place an embargo on Persian Rugs?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: XCenturion 2/13/2020 10:29:12 PM (No. 317861)
Veto!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: pilot222 2/13/2020 10:38:28 PM (No. 317865)
This is not the time to pass this while we are in a war with Iran. I have to believe that 70% of these politicians are on the take. Trump is winning and these corrupt politicians will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Sandpiper 2/13/2020 10:39:20 PM (No. 317867)
So what is it with the senators from Utah? Loyalty means nothing I guess.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: formerNYer 2/13/2020 10:41:07 PM (No. 317869)
Lamar looking to curry favor with the Libs to get a media job cause he's not running in 2020, as a resident of TN I'll be glad he's gone.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Pearson365 2/13/2020 10:52:52 PM (No. 317876)
Bill should be called “We apologize to the Ayatollah for taking out his favorite killer and maimer of American troops, General Soleimani, and promise to keep Trump from ever doing it again.” Bill does not mean anything because President Trump does not have any desire to go to war with Iran. The President will defend American military whenever Iran kills American soldiers or threatens American embassies as Soleimani did and would continue to do if he wasn’t droned outside of Bagdah Int’l Airport. But our President has no intention of invading Iran. Note that Obama ignored the current War Powers Act requiring a 90 day notification of Congress when he went to war with Libya. Obama knew Act had no teeth and that the Democrats in Congress would acquiescence to whatever Obama desired.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: red1066 2/13/2020 11:18:21 PM (No. 317889)
I wasn't aware Trump was planning an attack on Iran. I'm sure the Iran Mullahs are happy with this vote. Now they can resume their terrorist activities and their swift boat cat and mouse games with the U.S. Navy in the Gulf.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/13/2020 11:39:00 PM (No. 317899)
We need all eight of 'em for the judicial nominations, so just veto and move on. No sense in getting bent out of shape. We are never going to have a completely solid cast of characters, but if they're with us on the big stuff (Kavanaugh, impeachment) we'll be OK.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: bighambone 2/13/2020 11:46:02 PM (No. 317901)
The Senate are going to look like fools if the Ayatollahs misinterpret what they just did as meaning that President Trump is now impotent to strike back at them, and Iran takes it upon itself to launch a military strike against US forces and kills and wounds US troops in the Middle East. There was really no reason for such a resolution since Trump has shown that he is not a warmonger, does not want a war with Iran, and really wants to get as many US troops out of the Middle East as is politically possible. If this resolution ever becomes a bill passed by the entire Congress that lands on his desk, Trump to uphold his constitutional duties will veto the measure. What this all amounts to is another liberal Democrat effort to harass Trump, and those eight Republican Senators fell for that, believing that they were also protecting themselves from some left wing constituency groups. Pretty sad as the Democrat Senators would never dared to do that to Barack Obama.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: SALady 2/13/2020 11:52:01 PM (No. 317906)
If the Iranians set off a nuke in Los Angeles, and killed 10 million Americans, The Demon-Rats would still oppose any military response as long as President Trump ordered it!!! As long as the Demon-Rats are this insane and evil, and hate their president, Donald Trump, more than they care about this country, I am not for giving them any power over the president!!!!!! Veto away President Trump!!! You have my full support!!!!!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: DVC 2/14/2020 12:17:45 AM (No. 317927)
I will be calling my idiot Senator Moran (Moron seems more like it, pretty often) to tell him how thoroughly disappointed I am at his stupid vote.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: JediJerry 2/14/2020 12:31:48 AM (No. 317935)
These same rebels would have helped crucify Jesus. Lee would have been pounding spikes through his feet and Paul and Murkowski would be driving spikes through his wrists. Colins and Alexander would have made the crown of thorns and Kaine would have speared him in the side. I hope they are proud of themselves.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: milwaukeeroad 2/14/2020 12:43:46 AM (No. 317941)
But, but, what about Bolivia, Canada, and Belgium? Jamaica, Kiribati, France and Hungary? Another separate bill for each country? What lunacy!
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Omen55 2/14/2020 12:55:57 AM (No. 317951)
67 or Veto.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: andyboy 2/14/2020 4:26:35 AM (No. 317989)
Where was Mitt Romney on the list of 8 Republicans? Or is he now officially considered a Democrat?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: DCGIRL 2/14/2020 5:49:13 AM (No. 318016)
VETO. I do not believe they have enough votes to override a Veto.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: franq 2/14/2020 6:03:51 AM (No. 318023)
I am in agreement with #12, wars are getting more and more futile, but the dangers to our country are getting greater and greater. Cyber attacks, financial "jiggering", germ warfare, terrorist incidents... and that doesn't even include the lawless restrictions our own government is trying to place on us. After Trump, then what?
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Reply 32 - Posted by: George R. 2/14/2020 6:51:54 AM (No. 318052)
Good damn these America-hating a**hats! Primary anyone?
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Gruntmedic 2/14/2020 7:10:06 AM (No. 318067)
Trump dosen't want a war, but should be able to wack any bad guy he wants. F those backstabbers.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: msjena 2/14/2020 8:32:42 AM (No. 318130)
Trump will veto. More time-wasting by the Senate.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: privateer 2/14/2020 9:41:46 AM (No. 318223)
Eight rotten RepubTinCans.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: heartlandconservative 2/14/2020 12:58:10 PM (No. 318460)
The ignorance of our history and laws is surely reflected by some of the posts on this site. The President does not have the Constitutional authority to wage war without a Declaration of War passed by the Congress. Article 1 sec. 8 gives authority to declare war to Congress. Those who voted in favor, did so constitutionally.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: 49 Ford 2/14/2020 4:17:16 PM (No. 318661)
#36, President Trump has no desire to wage war against Iran. Taking out a terrorist who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans just doesn't fit that bill.
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