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Posted By: DVC, 2/11/2020 2:24:04 PM

A day after a team of World Health Organization (WHO) medical experts arrived in China to help investigate the deadly coronavirus outbreak, the health agency’s director said the virus poses “a very grave threat for the rest of the world.” Over 1,000 people in China have died after contracting the virus, which has sickened over 43,000 others globally. Just under 400 of those cases have been confirmed in countries outside of China. “With 99 percent of cases in China, this remains very much an emergency for that country, but one that holds a very grave threat for the rest of the world,” WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said


OK, let's take them at their word. NO person from China permitted to enter the USA from ANY other location. NONE. If you have been in China in the last 60 days, you stay where you are, do NOT enter the USA.
That would be a good start.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: hammondb3 2/11/2020 2:28:26 PM (No. 315152)
For those who want to follow the disease, assuming China is releasing real numbers... This is a frequently updated map updated by Johns Hopkins. 13 U.S. cases so far, There were 12 for about 3 days prior to the addition of one more yesterday.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 2/11/2020 2:30:08 PM (No. 315154)
Reports are that the 1918 "Spanish Flu" which killed some 50 million people worldwide had about a 2% fatality rate. The coronavirus seems to have that level or higher, and is apparently easily transmitted, even when the carrier is not yet showing symptoms. Let's hope that the ChiComs get a handle on this, and our public health folks aren't going to be all about convenience and political correctness in this matter. If the ChiComs have shut down multiple cities and many factories, it is probably because the REAL numbers of dead are far higher than they are admitting. Communists' stock in trade is covering up bad news, it is their one real expertise, because they always have so much bad news to cover up. We can be nearly certain that this virus has spread much farther (more infected people) and has killed many more people than the ChiComs are admitting to. So, instead of the admitted 1,000 dead, is it 10,000 dead or 100,000 dead at this point? There are already reports of burning bodies instead of burying them in normal one person graves. Is this because they have overwhelmed their gravedigging capacity by a huge factor, 10X or 100X?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: DVC 2/11/2020 2:30:59 PM (No. 315157)
#1, "assuming China is releasing real numbers". Hah! That would be a first.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: MMC 2/11/2020 2:35:26 PM (No. 315165)
So, how concerned should we be?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: ramona 2/11/2020 3:01:04 PM (No. 315191)
A colleague of mine is from China. Her parents live on the 28th floor of a high rise. Since elevators are a prime location for transmission, they cannot leave the apartment. The disease is spreading, according to her, in small rural villages, too, and she said it can be asymptomatic for up to 24 days. I thought it was from food, but apparently that isn't certain at all. We do need to pray for a solution to be found quickly. Ramona (the Pest)
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Enoch Powell 2/11/2020 3:08:26 PM (No. 315197)
But what happens to the Chinese who are pregnant and planned to have their anchor babies here? My heart bleeds... NOT!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All 2/11/2020 3:15:37 PM (No. 315205)
It is difficult to get too concerned. Is this serious? We don't know. We have been warned of dangerous potential pandemics many times in the past that turned out to be overblown duds. Will this be real one? Or is the boy crying "Wolf!" again?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: JubilationTCornpone 2/11/2020 3:48:10 PM (No. 315223)
But.....we were recently told this was no worse than a typical flu. So which is it?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: DVC 2/11/2020 4:18:12 PM (No. 315234)
#7, to put the "ordinary flu" into perspective, auto accidents kill about 35-37,000 people every year in the USA. Murders with guns kills about 14-15,000 people per year. The left always adds gun suicides to these numbers to inflate the totals, this is just murders, accidents, etc., not suicides. In the USA, the CDC reports that about 56,000 people die of the "ordinary flu" (which comes from China, and each new version is caused by Chinese farmers feeding chicken manure to hogs) in an average year. So - the "ordinary flu" (an annual "gift" from China) is a bigger risk than all auto accidents and all gun murders COMBINED, and this new coronavirus flu is projected (maybe inaccurately) to be a good bit worse than the (IMO already pretty bad) "ordinary flu". If this flu is, for example twice as deadly as the ordinary flu, than we lose 112,000 people/yr. But could it be 10X worse? Perhaps, but it is too soon to tell, especially with the ChiComs covering up the truth as Communists always do, reflexively. Maybe it is no worse than "ordinary flu".....but if it is addedon top of the "ordinary flu", we could lose well over 100,000 this year due to Chinese medieval living and farming conditions. Rhetorical question: If the Chinese killed 56,000 people with a small nuclear weapon set off in NYC, what would our response be? How is killing 56,000 people every year with "unintended" bioweapons (called "ordinary flu") actually any different? If the Chinese farmers would stop feeding chicken droppings to their hogs, a very large portion of those people would be alive.....but nobody bothers to even call them on it. And we let the infected people come over here continuously, so that they spread this new "ordinary flu" to Americans.... resulting in 56,000 deaths each year. Just quarantining ALL travelers from China for a couple of weeks would save those lives, but that would be "inconvenient", so better to let them die. For convenience.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: franq 2/11/2020 5:19:01 PM (No. 315290)
With respect to esteemed poster, the 1918 flu (which killed some of my ancestors) took place during a less medically and technologically advanced time. The media will hype any crisis tenfold. We'll see.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Wendybird 2/11/2020 5:23:08 PM (No. 315299)
Most influenza deaths are a result of secondary bacterial infection usually in lung tissue injured by the flu virus. The 1918 flu epidemic caused fifty million deaths, most of those could have been prevented by use of antibacterial antibiotics, which had not yet been invented. Even sulfonamides and penicillin were just discovered and hard to come by during the second world war. Does anyone know if the Corona virus deaths are caused mainly by secondary bacterial infection? If so, the potential epidemic is not nearly as frightening as it would be without antibacterial antibiotics. If any readers have special knowledge of this, I’d like to hear it. Thanks.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 2/11/2020 5:33:21 PM (No. 315308)
#10, and #11, good points....but those 56,000 US deaths every year are with all the modern medicine we have at our current disposal. Whatever the actual mechanism, these are 56,000 deaths that we currently cannot stop. Why imagine that there is some "miracle cure" for this new, seemingly more virulent and more deadly virus? Why would we be better at stopping it than the "ordinary flu"? I am not trying to hype this, just looking at the facts. IMO, we are really under appreciating the 'ordinary flu' now, so why expect that our public health system will be somehow magically enabled to stop this latest virus if it gets loose? We can hope it is like SARS and MERS, both which petered out on their own, not because of much that our public health folks actually did. There is a good chance that it will just fizzle, but every week where China refuses to let outsiders in, and keeps whole cities and factories closed, while apparently covering up the facts makes me more skeptical. I cannot tell you how much I hope that I am entirely wrong about this. We have "a vaccine" for the 'ordinary flu', but still 56,000 people die each year in our country.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: worried 2/11/2020 5:35:13 PM (No. 315309)
Just when I finally got over worrying about Ebola, now this!
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rubinski 2/11/2020 5:50:19 PM (No. 315323)
I’m reading everything I can about the corona virus. Because of the long latency, the virus will spread far and wide, but it may be that it’s less communicable to non-Asians, who have fewer ACE-2 receptors in their lungs. Like SARS and MERS, the virus attaches to the ACE-2 receptor in the lungs. Asians, males, and smokers have more ACE-2 receptors than non-Asians, nonsmokers and females. The mortality rate is probably close to 25% in China.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: franq 2/11/2020 5:52:01 PM (No. 315325)
I appreciate poster's concerns. For me, it raises the spectre (or scepter, as AOC put it) of germ warfare. May the Lord watch over us.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: TexaTucky 2/11/2020 6:24:18 PM (No. 315362)
Dang, and I just recently recovered from that Y2K bug.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 2/11/2020 6:43:32 PM (No. 315382)
No Shiite Sherlock. People have been saying this for weeks but the boats keep on floating and the planes keep on flying. Even with boats quarantined in a harbor they must have daily onloading of supplies and offloading of trash. Maybe some sharp scientist will discover the possible contamination in trash and laundry in a couple of months.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Wendybird 2/11/2020 7:37:54 PM (No. 315426)
re:DVC points. The influenza vaccine has been remarkably ineffective, partly because the people developing vaccine can’t predict the future flu strains and mutations, thus the antigens aren’t in the vaccine, and partly because many of us, including myself don’t get the vaccine because of intimate experience (denied by the experts, real as well as self proclaimed,) of adverse reaction. Also, there is advice from our medical experts to not use an antibiotic for “the flu”. Any physician who does is scorned by the experts, and patients notice that, until they are on their death beds. These same experts, you can bet, will be using an antibiotic themselves if they get “the flu”. As well as those experts scornful of using a mild anxiolytic to help sleep, while using same themselves. So, screw most of them.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Jethro bo 2/11/2020 7:57:47 PM (No. 315457)
I was somewhat concerned about this virus until the World Health Organization experts issued a 'very grave threat' mantra. If the Who thinks is bad, it has to be nothing. WHO is the only organization I can think of that would tell the world bubonic plague is a nothing burger and swine flu virus will wipe out humans in weeks. WHO has never been right but always poltically correct.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: EQKimball 2/11/2020 9:43:25 PM (No. 315554)
Should it hit the thousands of homeless living on the streets here, God help us all.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 2/12/2020 2:38:19 AM (No. 315709)
Notice the man spraying does not have gloves on ? Aside from the virus, if they are closing factories, that will have to hit their economy. What will happen when countries relying on their products receive none because manufacturing has stopped? If the virus is so easily spread among humans, will it be in food products shipped out? What about American food companies bought by the Chinese and their employees and employee's relatives? Sushi anyone ?
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