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Two tribes aren’t recognized federally. Yet
members won $500 million in minority contracts

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Posted By: MissMolly, 1/1/2020 4:54:51 AM

Companies set up by members of a self-described and state-recognized Creek Indian tribe in Alabama have received more than $240 million in federal minority-business contracts, despite a determination by the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs that there is no credible evidence the group has Native American ancestry, a Los Angeles Times investigation has found. Federal contracts worth an additional $273 million have gone to two companies run by a member of a different Native American group in Alabama with no federal recognition as a tribe.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: valinva 1/1/2020 5:32:58 AM (No. 275762)
I have a better idea. How about we stop issuing Federal contracts based on minority status and issue them based on competence and the best price? So many instances of Contracts being given to a company because the guy who really runs the company is married to a minority who is on the books as an owner or the owner really is a minority who is in reality incompetent and only got the contract because they are a minority.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: slab 1/1/2020 5:54:23 AM (No. 275768)
Fauxcahontas could have been a wealthy capitalist.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: F15 Gork 1/1/2020 6:28:06 AM (No. 275770)
I guess if Liz Warren had played her cards right she could be running a casino now instead of being scalped by PDJT.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Chuzzles 1/1/2020 8:12:44 AM (No. 275796)
Considering what the Left is pushing regarding gender right now, I find this concern most amusing. And hypocritical too. IMO, it is not up to the Feds to decide if your ethnicity exists. If these folks can do the job, and on budget and time, good for them. That is the goal. As a prior poster said, we need to stop with the minority only contracts. If your business wants to play with the big dogs, then you need to step up to the plate. Your ethnicity should not be deciding if you are qualified or not. Time to get rid of ALL minority targeted programs in this nation. Give everyone a shot at the prize, and may the best qualified win.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Right Time 1/1/2020 8:40:18 AM (No. 275812)
Elizabeth Warren, call your accountant
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Daisymay 1/1/2020 8:41:06 AM (No. 275813)
When I read articles like this one, I always wonder who benefited when that Contract was given out. One has to think someone in Congress is padding their pocket by granting it! There is always money passed under the table somewhere in the deal!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: PCMM 1/1/2020 8:50:28 AM (No. 275822)
The most racist entity on Earth in the US Federal Government. The protected classes have been ripping this nation apart for many years. I’ve worked closely with members of protected classes for three decades and they’ll be rewarded with more authority, responsibilities and pay despite never learning to communicate on a professional level or developing the tech skills required for the 21st century. Everyone seems to recognize this yet simply accept it as the norm.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 1/1/2020 9:00:55 AM (No. 275829)
Did they get the jobs done right and under budget? Unlike the contract that Mooch gave to her college girlfriend to build a crashing website that sometimes took people into Obamacare but the ones who could not get in were better off. My company was once pressured to award a contract to SEIC, which had minority status and government backing. The problem was they were the highest priced and had the worst reputation for failures. No thanks.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: greggojo 1/1/2020 9:07:00 AM (No. 275833)
There is so much fraud in connection with the awarding of government contracts due to federal mandates regarding minority owned businesses. To be non-racist and non-sexist America should abolish all of the mandates. Oddly enough James Webb (former D Senator from Va., the one who won his seat thanks to the Washington Post's attacks on Rep. George Allen, for accidentally using a word that in a language almost no American speaks or understands, has racial overtones) anyway, Webb wrote an excellent opinion piece in which he carefully detailed the outrageous federal laws (thank you Democrats) which force our government to discriminate against white American males in favor of anyone who was born elsewhere, including Iran, etc. It was an eye opener. Of course this absurdity stands right up there with the massive Medicare fraud, the Medicaid fraud, the Student Loan fraud, and my personal favorite, the Black Farmer's relief act, (thank you Barack Obama & friends) which awarded money to any Black American who might have had an uncle or someone, who owned a farm, maybe, once. No proof was required for gaining the funds. Billions were dispersed, the lawyers had a field day.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: HotRod 1/1/2020 10:05:20 AM (No. 275892)
It could be called reparations. The question is: When does it stop? The politicians have turned the reservations into money laundering operations, with the help and cooperation of the Indian tribes. The reservations serve no other purpose in America. The Indians are Americans and treaties should never be forever.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: mobyclik 1/1/2020 10:16:12 AM (No. 275905)
Minorities want equal treatment and equal opportunities...except for this garbage. ''Gimme the money, poor, poor me.''
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Grounded 1/1/2020 10:21:05 AM (No. 275910)
I have worked on a number of Indian Reservations and worked for a number of legitimate Native American owned firms. If those people in the picture from Alabama are Indians, then I'm the Pope. The whole MBE contracting process is a total sham. There are so many straw men and women heading up minority business enterprises that the entire program has become perverted.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ROLFNader 1/1/2020 10:49:58 AM (No. 275929)
Welcome to our new casino, Senator. Let me show you to your own , monogrammed slot machine in our private VIP lounge.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Oldenoughtoknowbetter 1/1/2020 12:08:27 PM (No. 275983)
Is Hunter Biden now wearing feathers like Pocahontas? Sounds like he could be involved.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: lakerman1 1/1/2020 1:43:39 PM (No. 276041)
To help you people to gain a broad view of the issue, I suggest you go to the legal notices in your local newspaper. You will find detailed specifications for minority and female set asides on various projects. You will be surprised at the extent of the set asides, and there is even a provision in federal road/bridge construction, 'encouraging' contractors with zero experience' to bid! See that bridge over yonder? How cool would it be if it was the first effort by a minority contractor?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Grounded 1/2/2020 5:02:13 PM (No. 276732)
Years ago I was working on a road project that required the in situ construction of a rather large concrete box drainage structure with tapered wingwalls. The subcontractor selected to build the thing had never done one before, flatwork being his forte, and was only chosen because he helped satisfy MBE hiring quotas. The state DOT has serials detailing how these boxes are built, but the plansheets had been repro'ed so many times that the tables were just a big blur. Not a problem for an experienced concrete contractors as they had done so many of these things that they could build them in their sleep. With the MBE hire we had to hold his hand and literally set his forms.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: DVC 1/3/2020 2:10:02 AM (No. 277098)
They aren't tribes, they are scams.
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