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The Rise of Skywalker Is So Bad
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Posted By: DaddyO, 12/18/2019 5:23:56 AM

As they prepare for their final battle against the galaxy’s forces of evil, the characters in The Rise of Skywalker remind each other several times that if this doesn’t work, everything that’s come before—everything they’ve fought for, everything they’ve been through—will all count for nothing. You could say the same of the movie itself. We can debate the importance of final chapters, whether they really have, or should have, the power to elevate or invalidate everything that came before them—and though the ninth episode in this generation-spanning story has been advertised with the promise that “The Saga Will End,” that’s a promise that has been made and broken before.


In case you have a life and haven't been following the background, a "small but extremely vocal minority" (aka the 'fandom' menace) was not happy with the Last Jedi. They were called them misogynistic right wingers (and worse). Now it turns out they have been listening after all. So they bring out some previously thought dead characters from previous movies, which caused the fandom menace to call the 9th installment of Star Wars "Plan 9 From Outer Space". And Mr. Adams is not happy about it.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jalo1951 12/18/2019 5:39:14 AM (No. 265503)
I enjoyed the first, original Star Wars. And that's it. I saw the next two movies which didn't endear me to the series. But when Jar Jar Binks showed up that was it. Jar Jar jumped the shark and I have not looked back. Obviously millions upon millions of people love all things Star Wars which is fine but I personally don't get it. We'll see what the paying public thinks about the latest installment.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: George R. 12/18/2019 6:24:02 AM (No. 265522)
The first first installment was spectacular.... continually downhill ever since. There is a need for "A New Hope".
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Reply 3 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk 12/18/2019 6:33:58 AM (No. 265534)
I started watching "Silent Witness" years ago because the British have a better way of fleshing out realistic characters than here. Lo and behold, there is Daisy Ridley, nude and about to be autopsied (I found out later after she joined the "Star Wars" franchise). I digress. Daisy seems to have no filter when it comes to spouting off about "conservative" leaders, especially as this film is about to be released. "Star Wars star Daisy Ridley: 'Every sane person' has an 'issue with Trump' FTA: "Star of the upcoming film Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Daisy Ridley asserted that "everyone has an issue with Trump — every sane person anyway." Speaking with The Guardian in an interview published over the weekend, the English actress took aim at both President Trump and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson. When asked if she finds it difficult to speak out about politics given that the Star Wars franchise is owned by family-friendly Disney, Ridley said, "No. I don’t feel I have to edit what I say — the things that make me angry are the things that make everyone angry." Last week proved her wrong with the crushing defeat of the socialist Labour Party in England. 2020 will do the same. Still need a reason NOT to support this movie?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog 12/18/2019 6:41:53 AM (No. 265539)
PC Sci-Fi is both an oxymoron and a dead end. Why are those living a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away behaving as if they're on earth in the 21st century and adhering to all the silly little made-up 'rules' that suck the life out
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sully 12/18/2019 6:47:07 AM (No. 265542)
Franchise needs to be put out of its misery like a wookie with rabies. JJ Abrams is a media assassin who ends every story arc with the theme: "nothing means anything." Or as Yoda would say: "Nothing does anything mean." Pitiful.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mekkkk 12/18/2019 6:47:24 AM (No. 265543)
All of these prequels and sequels should have never happened...
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DynomiteThings 12/18/2019 6:58:43 AM (No. 265548)
I'm with you, #1. I don't get the obsession people, especially adults, have with the franchise. I have a friend who loves it so much that he spent $1500 on a custom-made Storm Troopers costume. When you drop that much money on a costume, you're required to love every iteration of the movie, me thinks.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Muguy 12/18/2019 7:14:48 AM (No. 265567)
Disney's screwing with George Lucas' creation has not been satisfying. Many have faulted Lucas for the "pre-quels" which had to be made to set up the action and plot lines of the orignal movie Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. The original films had human interest rather than aimless dramatic action in front of green and blue screens which was seriously lacking the the last disaster "The Last Jedi". As a fan of the last 42 years, there is much to atone for, and many plot and character arcs that need to be tied up for closure. There has been a tremendous lot of discontentment with the last episode, and a cataclysmic 'disturbance' in The Force of fans approval of the handling of something like this franchise. The Disney meddling would appear to be more about MARKETING and MONEY than in faithfully making the fans happy. Rise of Skywalker toys appeared months ago at discounted prices! After investing over four decades in this enterprise, I'm hoping this final episode will not RUIN the experience like Rian Johnson did with the last one. Many think his out of character film was 'groundbreaking' because if defied the conventional, but it instead INFURIATED the faithful and loyal fans. The first movie was seen MULTIPLE times and had what the movie industry calls "legs". When they came out on video, they were watched multiple times and often seemed fresh after multiple viewings. Please, let this one be good for the fans and let those who want to be 'woke' by trashing the traditional lore be disappointed this time.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 12/18/2019 7:24:46 AM (No. 265575)
The "Star Wars" franchise should have been killed after the original.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: F15 Gork 12/18/2019 7:33:31 AM (No. 265582)
The first one back in the late 70’s was outstanding. The next two were tolerable. Everything since then has been a bad cartoon.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Chuzzles 12/18/2019 7:40:15 AM (No. 265587)
If they really want to make the SW fans happy, release the original three on Disc rather than continuing the Leftist petulance of George Lucas. At the moment, the only way to get the original three from back in the 70's, early 80's is on video. Who even has VCR's right now? I figure they are just humoring us with making the DVD players.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: NorthernDog 12/18/2019 7:51:16 AM (No. 265598)
I liked A New Hope and The Empire Strikes back. The rest you can keep. I think some of the fanatics forget that it's all fiction.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: walcb 12/18/2019 7:57:43 AM (No. 265603)
I lost interest in the series when they tried to make me believe that a mentally handicapped being (Jar Jar) was capable of navigating a vessel in interstellar space. He/it was only a character created to sell cute fuzzy figures by Disney.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Lawsy0 12/18/2019 8:13:11 AM (No. 265624)
Suck since Disney it did. (But you've gotta love ''fandom menace'') And to think, when the original came out my husband and I went to see if first before we took our son because we had heard it was too intense for children. Sheesh. Kids are the only ones who understood it.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: BeatleJeff 12/18/2019 8:29:18 AM (No. 265650)
Truth be told, I saw the first three Star Wars films in the theaters back when I teenager. I haven't seen one since, so the odds of me going to see this one are just about nil.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: felixcat 12/18/2019 8:34:44 AM (No. 265657)
Sick of and bored with all the Marvel series of movies, The Star Wars never ending garbage, etc. I am treating myself to Clint Eastwood's Richard Jewell this weekend.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: ho72 12/18/2019 8:42:02 AM (No. 265667)
After the first three movies, they should've turned the franchise into a daytime tv soap. Would have been much cheaper to produce and would've reached the same number of fans.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Jennie C. 12/18/2019 8:49:17 AM (No. 265676)
I like Jar-Jar!!!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 12/18/2019 9:21:55 AM (No. 265712)
The first Star Wars, like the first Jaws, had the kind of impact that keeps you clutching the armrests and you don't even dare go out for another popcorn for fear that you will miss a few minutes of the movie. Once that intensity is realized it can never be experienced again. Hollywood lost that level of impact about thirty years ago when originality went out the window and real actors stopped being born.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: bigfatslob 12/18/2019 9:51:16 AM (No. 265757)
As a young adult in the early seventies I can proudly say I've never seen Star Wars or any sequels that followed. Just like I never watched Murder She Wrote, Little House on the Prairie or Andy of Mayberry, never. I could name many more but bad movies and sitcoms don't attract my interest. I could care less if Rise of Skywalker (who ever that is) bombs it won't affect my daily life.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Aubreyesque 12/18/2019 10:11:11 AM (No. 265776)
Some adults - adults who understand culture - know that fiction is Story that contain cultural values that are passed down from generation to generation. Star Wars came out at a time when the Left was making serious inroads into breaking down American cultural values. Star Wars is Story that inspired a generation of kids living in the nihilistic pall of the aftermath of Vietnam. You “adults” can sneer all you want but The Fandom Menace recognized the cynical nihilism of Disneys acquisition of Lucasfilm and Igers/ Kennedys “subversion of expectations” for what it is: a deconstruction and invalidation of Story. And “Adults” who usually claim to care about cultural values should worry instead of sneer. But you Ldotter “adults” do You, ok? I mean its not as if you have any hope anyway...right?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: HHFi2 12/18/2019 10:47:49 AM (No. 265829)
Like other commenters here, I'm old enough to have seen the first "Star Wars" when it came out in theaters (I was a freshman in college.) I remember coming out of it, saying, "That was really cool!" then never giving it another thought until "Empire" came out. By then I was married to a "Star Wars" fan, so I had to take her. It was good, but a little dark for my taste. By the third one, with the merchandisable teddy bears and the plot recycled from #1, I thought, "This is okay, but it's running on fumes." "Phantom Menace" was the last one I paid to see (my reaction to that was "World's most expensive episode of 'Big Bad Beetleborgs.'") Luckily, by the time the Hayden Christensen ones came out, I was divorced (not related to "Star Wars") and caught them on free library DVDs, fast-forwarding through the atrocious dialogue, wooden acting and pointless CGI, which meant I watched each of them in about 15 minutes. That was my jumping off point. I haven't seen one since, and judging from the reviews and the exponential growth in suckiness of the ones I have seen, I doubt I've missed much. I seriously don't understand why anyone, especially adults, would build their lives around these dumb movies. At least "Star Trek" has some interesting ideas embedded in it.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: NotaBene 12/18/2019 11:29:08 AM (No. 265857)
I understood very little of this article.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Videodrone 12/18/2019 11:49:23 AM (No. 265881)
In the mid '70's I had access to "remaindered" paperbacks (the corner where the price was - was cut off and marked as "not sold") one of which was George Lucas's original Star Wars - didn't get around to reading it until a few moves later and was sick for several days and remember marveling at the "plot arc" then went to a Joseph Campbell lecture...
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Reply 25 - Posted by: SALady 12/18/2019 12:07:25 PM (No. 265893)
I really liked the first two movies in this series. Good story lines of good versus evil. However, starting with the 3rd movie, with those stupid teddy bears ("Ewoks" I think they were called), it was clear all the movies from that point were solely for marketing toys. Ever since I saw that one back in the 1980's, none of them have interested me in the least. Just politically correct boring storylines. I tried watching one of the later ones, and I was so happy to leave a theater, and really want that 2 hours of my life back that I totally wasted. They just need to let this die. When the good guys defeated the bad guys in the 3rd movie -- with the help of the marketable teddy bears of course -- that is where it should have died!!!!!
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Reply 26 - Posted by: crashnburn 12/18/2019 1:10:37 PM (No. 265941)
Have to admit, I've seen all of the Star Wars movies, except Rise of Skywalker, and thanks for the warnings. I did think the previous three were a little too politically correct, but never joined the Fandom Menace!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: GO3 12/18/2019 1:33:50 PM (No. 265961)
The original trilogy, episodes IV to VI were good stories. The prequels, episodes I to III were political defenses of Bill Clinton's crimes and bashing Bush's War on Terror. The sequels, episodes VII to IX were promoting women in the military while showing a male storm trooper who was incompetent, a coward, and a liar. I think the spinoffs, Rogue 1 and Solo, were far better movies.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: DVC 12/18/2019 1:46:31 PM (No. 265972)
Sad to say, I'll probably not even bother with this one. The diversity crowd is getting pretty oppressive, it would seem. I saw a short trailer the other night on TV, it appears as if no white people made it into the future. Hollywierd is a sinkhole, everything falling into it being destroyed by their leftist vortex.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: coldoc 12/18/2019 2:02:43 PM (No. 265981)
Jar-jar is eminently qualified for speaker of the house.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: akudaq 12/18/2019 3:39:21 PM (No. 266014)
#5 "Mean anything, nothing does." works also, ha. They lost me after the first three a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. I preferred the original Star Trek and it's even-numbered movies.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 12/18/2019 4:31:49 PM (No. 266035)
As a kid who was obsessed with Star Wars back in the 1970s, a few comments: 1. "Rouge One" was excellent. It flows seamlessly into "A New Hope". And it cured some of the mysteries -- like how a massive complex spaceship like the Death Star would have such a silly flaw. (The reason being the flaw was clever sabotage.) It is close to being "Empire Strikes Back" (the best of the movies) good. 2. The second half of the "third" (sixth) movie (showing the creation of Darth Vader) was excellent and truly dark. The rest of 1-3 (four to six) were truly terrible. 3. The Han Solo stand alone movie was very good, excepting for an annoying SJW robot (played for silliness). 4. The new Mandalorian is excellent. Very much in the spirit of spaghetti westerns. 5. Episodes 7 and 8 were very, very bad. Disney proceeded to take a giant dump on my childhood. 6. Because the Mandalorian is so good, I will see the movie on Sunday.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: snakeoil 12/18/2019 5:06:17 PM (No. 266050)
Can't remember the last time I saw a movie in a theater. Wait for DVD or cable. No lines. No worrying about your car while you are watching the movie. No having to sit in chairs that are filthy and walk on floors as sticky as the La Brea Tar Pits. No having to sit near people talking out loud. When I was young there were people called ushers who would show you to a seat and if someone talked or lit a cigarette they would shine a light in your face and ask you to leave. A few years ago the Must See Movie was Avatar. It finally showed up free on my cable package. Boring beyond belief. Only thing I miss about movies in theaters is the popcorn.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: red1066 12/18/2019 6:08:09 PM (No. 266106)
Another movie franchise that should have been one and done.
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With His F*** You Letter To Pelosi Inside!
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Posted by DynomiteThings 12/21/2019 8:07:52 AM Post Reply
The White House on Wednesday dispatched some staffers to head up the Capitol. They brought with them beautiful cards with hand-drawn calligraphy on them. They looked like Christmas cards. But inside the envelopes addressed to lawmakers were copies of President Trump’s brutal letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
New Zealand collects over 50,000
guns in buyback program
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Posted by mc squared 12/21/2019 11:21:21 AM Post Reply
New Zealand is going assault weapon free. Authorities in the country say more than 50,000 firearms have been handed over to the police after a nationwide gun buyback program. The initiative began after a massacre at two mosques in Christchurch which left 51 dead in March. An additional 2,700 guns were modified to make compliant with new regulations and 5,000 firearms of all types were also collected as part of a no-questions-asked amnesty. All told, the government has spent roughly $66 million on the effort.
Don’t Count On Romney 25 replies
Posted by tisHimself 12/22/2019 7:22:50 AM Post Reply
David Ignatius must be kidding: Who might deliver us from this national train wreck? Who could restore a sense of balance to the Senate trial so that, whatever its outcome, it doesn’t feed Trump’s false narrative of victimization and populist rage? There’s one obvious answer: Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee and custodian of what remains of his party’s moral and political balance. Counting on Mitt Romney for political courage and moral leadership is always a bad bet. Romney has a very safe seat in Utah, so in theory he could afford to take risks, but taking political risks is exactly what Romney never does.
Will Washington media expose the liars
who spun the Trump-Russia hoax?
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Posted by StormCnter 12/21/2019 7:13:21 AM Post Reply
When will the Washington media correct the record and publicly burn their sources in the Obama FBI, the intelligence community and the political class who lied to them for years about that now-discredited Trump-Russia hoax? That hoax served as pretext for President Barack Obama’s FBI and CIA and others to investigate, and spy upon, the presidential campaign of a rival. As if by design, the now discredited Trump-Russia story consumed President Donald Trump’s White House and our politics for three years. And from the fetid cauldron of lies and spin grew the wholly partisan Democratic impeachment of the president
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