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Reality check: Drive for rapid ‘net zero’
emissions a guaranteed loser

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Posted By: MissMolly, 12/9/2019 4:24:23 AM

The UN climate summit is underway in Madrid, and activists are sounding their usual calls for world leaders to achieve carbon neutrality as fast as possible. It’s a fool’s errand. From California to France to Chile, environmentalists laud leaders for already making the promise, and sometimes even passing legislation, to stop putting more greenhouse gases into the air than they take out. Democratic presidential hopefuls are adding their voices to the chorus.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 12/9/2019 9:35:40 AM (No. 256939)
"New Zealand is considering spending at least $5 trillion to ­deliver a physically unmeasurable impact by the end of the century. The math is comparable for most economies" This is insanity. And while Lomborg asserts that climate issues are real, I don't think they are as threatening as the Alarmists say. None of their models work and their doomsday predictions are NOT following their narratives. At a minimum, there is great uncertainty about the future of climate. So should we throw our economies into reverse for unclear and uncertain threats and effectively non existent benefits? I will reiterate Lomborg's "physically unmeasurable impact". This means we CANNOT accurately measure changes to global climate that are that small. We could do all that is demanded and there would be NO WAY to know if we were "successful". It would certainly have no observable impact. This is a perfect liberal solution, throwing money (and power) at an undefinable problem with no measurable solution. Why, you could spend immense amounts of money and cede enormous power and cripple civilization to NO noticeable "climate" change. Absolutely perfect. The liberal answer would be, of course, to spend more and cede more power. Lomborg suggests a "sensible middle ground must be found that could include policies like a low and rising carbon tax". Yet, if the ALL IN solution will yield NO noticeable results, WHAT would be the purpose of half measures. Half of not noticable is still not noticable. It would be a feel good compromise to no effect. "the best way to fix climate change is innovation that lowers the price of clean energy below that of fossil fuels" Sure, and that is already slowly happening but not with "green" energy like solar and wind. Those are unreliable, limited, and dead end solutions. There is no possible way to scale them to the levels needed to replace fossil fuels. It's not that it would be hard to do, it is IMPOSSIBLE to do. Nuclear power is the only technology that might have a chance of replacing fossil fuels but we know how the activists feel about THAT. R&D is always good and some new solutions may emerge. However, for an energy demanding and NEEDING world, fossil fuels are the only realistic source for the near term.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: cor-vet 12/9/2019 9:57:11 AM (No. 256963)
How did they all get to Madrid?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hisself 12/9/2019 10:15:59 AM (No. 256989)
"Climate change is a real problem. It is man-made, and it will have negative consequences." I quit reading as soon as I saw this lie!
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 12/9/2019 11:31:02 AM (No. 257102)
Carbon dioxide in our atmosphere is a good thing. Green plants must have it, and if it increases, green plants can grow more rapidly. Not a pollutant, a plant growth enhancer. Greenhouses add it to their atmosphere to increase growth. And at 4/100ths of one percent in the atmosphere ("horrifically" up from 3.5/100ths of one percent in a century!) it is a very, very, VERY small factor in the planetary greenhouse effect. Water vapor is 25 times as efficient a greenhouse gas, and is in the atmosphere in hundreds of times the concentration of carbon dioxide. The whole thing is an unscientific political scam. But you already knew that.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JimBob 12/10/2019 12:50:45 AM (No. 257621)
Listen to the words of former United Nations climate official Ottmar Edenhofer: "One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015. So what is the goal of environmental policy? "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy," said Edenhofer. My source for the above quotes: https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/
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