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Posted By: MissMolly, 11/25/2019 4:34:28 AM

’ll take the opportunity up front to double down on this post from Friday. I’d bet my life savings plus several internal organs that Pelosi will have 218 to impeach. That’s based on the simple reality that failing to do so at this point would cost Democrats more politically than proceeding with impeachment would. Voters who hate Trump would be furious and voters who like Trump wouldn’t give Pelosi and Schiff an ounce of credit for standing down in the end. The president would gloat about it every day unto eternity. Pelosi, long respected by both sides for her ability to whip votes, would be humiliated utterly.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: OBX Pete 11/25/2019 6:05:59 AM (No. 244750)
Pelosi doesn't have the guts to tell Schiff and his like to take a hike with his phony impeachment try so maybe there are enough sane dims in the house to stop it. They should kick Schiff out of the house while they are at it !!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: BillW. 11/25/2019 6:09:45 AM (No. 244755)
Good. They're getting nervous about our president getting his just deserts in the Senate. Serves their lying as*ses right. --Vets for Trump2020
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Johneboy2 11/25/2019 6:11:39 AM (No. 244757)
Interesting take on the upcoming impeachment vote. There are 31 "Trump District" congress weasels, who are not feeling good about voting for impeachment. They need 218 to vote for impeachment, so if all of the 31 squishies vote no, Pelosi and Schiff are hugely humiliated. But even if they cover 218, say 225 or so, they are still humiliated because that number will be lower than the vote to open the enquiry. The president's take will logically be, look, their kangaroo court lost them support after the testimony was given. Assuming no Republican votes for impeachment, he can say there was a bi-partisan vote against it.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/25/2019 6:37:42 AM (No. 244770)
Pelosi already said she and the dims are willing to lose control of the House even if they can't remove Trump. Trump set the trap and now Pelousi and her thugs have no place to go but out the door.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 11/25/2019 6:38:27 AM (No. 244772)
It would be fun to see Schiff under oath at a Senate trial. I imagine he is stupid enough to perjure himself under oath and might actually have to pay for this self indulgent clown show.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: walcb 11/25/2019 6:39:39 AM (No. 244773)
I think most (not all) of the purple Dims are toast no matter how they vote.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Venturer 11/25/2019 6:41:40 AM (No. 244774)
They have backed themselves into a corner. They have to complete the farce or become irrelevant.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bazi 11/25/2019 7:08:39 AM (No. 244800)
While everyone's focused on impeachment, what's going on behind the scenes with voter fraud? With google, Facebook, Amazon and Twitter all in commie cyber cahoots, it makes me nervous.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: PChristopher 11/25/2019 7:40:50 AM (No. 244843)
While reading this, I started thinking that the next State of the Union speech is going to be a really good one no matter how it goes down!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: mifla 11/25/2019 7:41:17 AM (No. 244845)
Pelosi should have followed her political instincts and stopped impeachment before it started.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: cThree 11/25/2019 8:21:39 AM (No. 244877)
Maybe Democrats nationwide are realizing that the California Democrats—Pelosi & Schiff—who are transforming their coastal paradise into an open latrine, would do the same for them. In a similar note, how has Bernie Sanders fared since AOC started making goo-goo eyes at him?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: bpl40 11/25/2019 8:33:51 AM (No. 244890)
Democrats know as well as anyone that their Corporate Media sponsored 'polls' lie as they are intended to. Add to that the pathetic state of the front runner candidates to oppose the President. There might be a strategy to save the House, which requires recapturing as many of the 31 purple Democrat seats as possible. In the end what actually will impeachment achieve? IMO, they are going for censure. Of course there will be the sudden epiphany that voters and their rights are supreme.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Strike3 11/25/2019 8:48:55 AM (No. 244909)
I believe it's already too late for them. The cold feet should have started affecting those who already knew this was a scam two months ago before they let Schiff bring in Joe Maguire and the interview was a bust for them. Each secret meeting since then has been a laughable waste of time and the "whistleblower" is a ghost. The old saying still holds true, when you set out to kill the king you had better succeed.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: janjan 11/25/2019 8:50:04 AM (No. 244911)
#4 Pelosi might say she is willing to lose the House but this is a lie. There will not be an impeachment vote. First of all Pelosi will not bring it to a vote unless she can get enough votes without vulnerable candidates, second, there is no way they can allow a Senate trial. Way too risky. The Republicans will be out for revenge and they will get it. The Democrats thought they could do enough damage to Trump to turn the 2020 election. Epic fail. Now they need a graceful way out.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Kafka2 11/25/2019 9:00:17 AM (No. 244922)
I would love it if The House Democrats failed to produce a majority on a vote for impeachment, That would be the "Bock Buster" of all "Bock Busters."
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Reply 16 - Posted by: starboard 11/25/2019 9:36:21 AM (No. 244968)
Pelosi lures (quid pro quo) her caucus with dinero for their campaign if they vote a certain way. In the case with these newbies congressmen, they will be finito if they vote impeachment. If they decide to vote their conscience against impeachment, they could survive. Anyone who votes impeachment will be branding themselves for the rest of the career, especially when the Dunham report hits the fan.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: VietVet68 11/25/2019 9:57:41 AM (No. 244996)
The question is ...how do the democrats save face is they don't impeach? They need to come up with something so their left wing base doesn't freak out and stay home in 2020. If they impeach the senate trial will expose everything they've been trying to hide, think Bidens and Obama regime corruption. My guess is they may try for censure, for what that's worth but either way they blew this big time. Trump, the orange buffoon as they like to say, has boxed them into a corner leaving them only lose-lose situations in order to extricate themselves. I though for a second I shed a tear for the democrats but it was just from laughing so hard at them.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 11/25/2019 10:01:04 AM (No. 245005)
It's so hard to tell what's really going on in Washington. There are two competing narratives going on, and its doubtful either of them are really true. Time will tell. The left needs Republican support for impeachment. They also need the support of the general public. Hard to tell, but it looks like the left has neither. What's the price for a Senator or Representative to sacrifice their career in Washington to impeach Trump? its probably too high to be met. It is doubtful that enough big-money people are on board with impeachment as well. The big-money types get richer when the American economy is roaring on all 12 cylinders. The left would reduce the American economy to a lawnmower engine, and big-money doesn't want that.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: IAmButASimpleCaveman 11/25/2019 10:08:53 AM (No. 245013)
"cold feet"??? hardly, they simply are out to secure future security in some form in return for following pelosi's lead on votes for impeachment counter to their electorates wishes. nothing worthy of profiles in courage here.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: gone2pot 11/25/2019 10:23:19 AM (No. 245032)
I think if the Marxists can get through to John Roberts with whatever they have on him ala Obamacare, then they'll all vote to impeach in the House, even the Trump districts. However, if Trump is allowed to call Eric Ciaramella, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Schiff and all those involved in the Ukraine corruption AND he is allowed to enter all the documentation proving his case against THEM without Roberts interfering via the Senate Marxists' objections, they might not impeach in the House. The Marxists and the GOP cannot and will not risk being exposed by a trial where facts, data, truth, criminals' own words recordings show the American people that the entire government is NOT a representative republic based on the Constitution and that all Marxists and most Republicans are involved. Ms Graham is probably assuring all the criminal senators (probably about 98 of them) that he won't allow certain evidence in the impeachment trial and will have to assure them that Roberts will follow suit. If Roberts follows Ms Graham, Trump will not be removed by the Senate but will not be allowed to lay out his defense either. Marxists are depending on that and they'll no doubt get it and still be happy knowing that Trump was impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate. So, bottom line, Trump WILL be impeached by the House with most Trump districts voting to impeach and will be acquitted by the Senate. Also, the Senate trial will be lickety split fast and Mitch will make sure it is so that his "buuuhhhh-buh-buuuuuhhhhh bipartisan colleagues" won't be harmed being off the campaign trail for too long.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: chefrandy 11/25/2019 10:25:16 AM (No. 245034)
And yet, for the greater glory of the Democrat party, they will gleefully follow their leaders right off the cliff just like the good lemmings they are. We can only hope that in that parade into the abyss they manage to get their media cheerleaders to follow suit.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: little guy 11/25/2019 10:43:30 AM (No. 245060)
Here's the real problem for the Dems. They gambled that their farce hearings would get the public to rise up and clamor for Trump's head. That didn't happen and they can't risk Shiff-heads staff getting subpoenas or Hunter Biden being called, so they will now pivot & turn around and say: "We absolutely DON'T want to impeach President Trump!! Oh no ---- because his trial will be a monkey show held in the crooked and rigged Senate where all his cronies are! Our "facts" are out there for all to see that he's a crook, just like Nixon, but we won't give the filthy Senate the pleasure of letting their criminal friend get off scot-free --- so we've decided to pass a censure vote instead. Now America knows that WE stand for justice --- and the Senate doesn't". The House censure vote, of course, will go from calling Trump a liar, to a child molester, to being Putin's puppet and even cheating at cards and kicking puppies and drowning kittens. It will pass.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: 4Justice 11/25/2019 11:19:58 AM (No. 245115)
#8, you have EVERY reason to be nervous. The Dems have been manipulating redistricting rules, changing voting laws (like allowing ballot harvesting and sending all ballots by mail for absentee voting) and engaging in all sorts of other shenanigans disenfranchising thousands of voters and helping non-citizens and minors to vote. They subverted the entire election process in California in order to create a monopoly on power in the state. While there are more Democrats than Republicans in California now, there is no honest reason there should be almost no representation of the GOP here now. It was a coup, and the Democrats are now using the same tactics in other states to take them all over one at a time until they have complete control over the entire country. This is why we need to stop them. We need to require IDs, allow absentee mail-in ballots only when absolutely necessary (e.g., people too infirmed or disabled), stop motor-voter registration, clean the rolls of deceased and voters that moved, supervise redistricting processes, have watchdogs over each election district to ensure ballots are properly handled, etc.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: TXLakeRat 11/25/2019 11:20:53 AM (No. 245122)
I continue to feel there will be no vote on impeachment. Further, I now predict if one is called for, more than a couple Dims will not just vote no, they will first switch parties. It's not just the humiliation of a losing vote, its the fear of a winning vote. They realize that a full fledged trial in the Senate will expose those voting "yeah" on a whole host of issues, and it will be done when they will all prefer to be out on the campaign trail. Meanwhile their campaign opponents will be on the campaign trail armed with a ton of damaging materials. There will NOT be a vote! (Sadly.)
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Reply 25 - Posted by: MEMcL 11/25/2019 11:25:55 AM (No. 245129)
In San Diego/Orange County, Democrat Michael Levin is in his first term, and I certainly hope that he is not re-elected. He seemed like one of the more reasonable Dems when he campaigned, but has only followed Pelosi and voted party-line. He tries to keep a low profile, but his acquiescence to the Do-Nothing Democrats is just as deadly as people like Pelosi and Schiff. There are many of us who will be more pro-active in this election to try to defeat him.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Strike3 11/25/2019 11:36:51 AM (No. 245147)
Coming from the anti-America WaPo this news has ten times the impact. Their primary purpose for existence is to cover for the democrats. What's happening?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: jacksin5 11/25/2019 11:39:33 AM (No. 245159)
The Dims don't have enough to bring impeachment to the Senate at this time. They will regroup over the Thanksgiving holiday, and try to add something, maybe Trump's tax returns, to continue the witch-hunt till X-Mas. Remember, it's not about Impeachment, it's about how many lies and slurs they can feed to the MSM for distribution to the unknowing.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: JediJerry 11/25/2019 11:44:03 AM (No. 245171)
They have two options. Lunch Mob mentality and vote to impeach where it will go to the senate for severely damaging witness testimony and eventual acquittal. Or common sense can prevail and let it die in the house. Either way it will be another big win win win for Trump. The democrats are screwed either way. Pick your choice and make your bets. And the biggest losers are..... drum roll ....... Pignasty Stretch Pelosi and Pencilneck Bugeyes Schiifty Schiff!!! Congratulations!!!
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Reply 29 - Posted by: udanja99 11/25/2019 12:44:32 PM (No. 245255)
I’ve said this before but it bears repeating - I’d bet that there are a bunch of dems in the House who would just love to ring the necks of Pelousy and Schiffhead for putting them in this position. As to those two - karma is biting them on their arses for their arrogance and hatred.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: BigTimeTrumper 11/25/2019 4:31:13 PM (No. 245455)
Allahpundit is like a broken clock....right twice a day....When Barrack calls Peelosi and tells her to shut it down.... he wants no part of the Senate subpoenaing "witnesses" under oath.....including Shifty Schniff ...multiple Ukrainian Burisma folks...Barrack himself... and the fake "Whistler"...Peelosi will fold like a cheap suit...jump on her taxpayer funded plane....and guzzle a case of vodka on her flight ban to San Fran...there cannot be a Senate trial...too many crooks would be exposed....McCain...Rubio...Grahamnasty?...were they all over there also...or just Traitor Mac?
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Reply 31 - Posted by: pjcomix 11/25/2019 6:38:12 PM (No. 245515)
Shampeachment schiffting away.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Smart11344 11/26/2019 12:15:02 PM (No. 246221)
Is it possible that some democrats are starting to think about the outcome of what they are doing?
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Hatred makes you crazy. There is perhaps no surer example of this principle than Never Trump stalwart Bill Kristol. Early Monday morning, he tweeted that another four years of Donald Trump would be more dangerous for free markets than four years of Elizabeth Warren as president. Not that Warren is anywhere near his first pick... "I very much prefer Biden or Buttigieg or Bloomberg or Klobuchar to Warren. But the idea that one term of Warren would pose anything like the threat of a second term for Trump to the basic norms and institutions of our liberal democracy, including to free markets, is laughable," Kristol insisted.
Transgenderism and the Olympics 27 replies
Posted by Magnante 11/26/2019 6:01:23 AM Post Reply
Next year’s Tokyo Summer Olympics may spell the swift death of the transgender movement as a dominant politically-correct touchstone. Biological men, self-identifying as women, are poised to make a clean sweep of the Women’s Olympics, triggering a very public debate on this third-rail subject. That firestorm, pitting pro-women feminists against extreme pro-transgender progressives, will begin July 24th, just as the Presidential sweepstakes moves into its sprint to the finish line. The International Olympic Committee -- the IOC -- recently admitted they couldn’t come up with fair guidelines governing how and when transgender women can compete as women
President Trump’s fate: The case
for censure over impeachment
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Posted by MissMolly 11/26/2019 12:57:18 PM Post Reply
On July 25, 2019, President Donald Trump picked up the phone in the White House residence and attempted to shake down a foreign leader. Trump’s language was elliptical and soft, not direct and threatening, but his intentions were clear: He wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to “do us a favor.” That was Trump’s entree to his improper, indecent requests that Zelenskiy’s government undertake two investigations that would benefit Trump politically. Trump didn’t explain his motives, which of course were self-serving. First, he asked Zelenskiy to “find out what happened” with Ukraine’s supposed meddling, alongside Russia, in the 2016 U.S. election. Then there was Trump’s “other thing”: his desire that Ukraine “look into”
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