Secretary of Navy says Trump’s
tweet is not a formal order
Associated Press,
by
Rob Gillies
Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk,
11/23/2019 7:47:33 PM
The secretary of the U.S. Navy said Saturday he doesn't consider a tweet by President Donald Trump an order and would need a formal order to stop a review of a sailor who could lose his status as a Navy Seal.
"I need a formal order to act," Navy Secretary Richard Spencer said, and referred to the tweet. "I don't interpret them as a formal order."
Trump insisted last Thursday the Navy "will NOT be taking away Warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher's Trident Pin," inserting himself into an ongoing legal review of the sailor's ability to hold onto the pin that designates him a SEAL.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/23/2019 7:57:28 PM (No. 243666)
A Presidential pardon is a FORMAL order, Mr. Secretary of the Navy.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
dirtyjersey 11/23/2019 7:59:42 PM (No. 243668)
Insubordination. He should be demoted to lieutenant, then fired.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
MissMann 11/23/2019 8:09:03 PM (No. 243681)
He was good enough to be a SEAL at a lower rank, but now that his rank has been restored, all of a sudden he is ineligible? Uh-huh. Time to clean house, Mr. President.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
chance_232 11/23/2019 8:17:35 PM (No. 243687)
The Secretary of the Navy can, in fact, intervene . Intervention at that level may be rare or even unprecedented, but it doesn't require a presidential order.
My guess.... SecNav doesnt want to buck his admirals who for whatever reason are hell bent to make an enlisted mans life miserable. I don't know if they are Obama holdovers or just don't like losing face. Regardless, the President needs to make clear who IS the Commander In Chief and remind them who works for whom.
Back in early 2009 I had a conversation with someone, who would know, that a very real concern that the new Obama administration had was of an open revolt by the military. I see that they resolved the concern by neutering the upper ranks and installing sycophant's.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
EQKimball 11/23/2019 8:28:58 PM (No. 243695)
SECNAV is a civilian. He should comply or resign.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NYbob 11/23/2019 8:34:23 PM (No. 243700)
#4.They should have been concerned. Even 20 years earlier the obvious fraud never would have stood. Fortunately for America's enemies there wasn't ONE high profile politician, government official or law enforcement person willing to put it all on the line and challenge the blatant Selective Service Registration form forgery or the bogus certificate of birth. NO other person would have been able to conceal their foreign student status, foreign travel and foreign supporter, as in the Saudi Prince who got BO into Harvard.
Any investigation half as expensive or serious as Mueller's would have turned up quite a network of seditious traitors going back to BO grandparents and the Chicago criminal element. ALL of us are still in danger from these evil forces. Until someone cracks open the cabal, the whole country is at risk of losing every freedom we take for granted.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
glcinpdx 11/23/2019 8:36:08 PM (No. 243702)
Time for an "Operation Bottom Blow" in the Pentagon, start with the Navy.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
inspectorudy 11/23/2019 8:44:43 PM (No. 243711)
I just read that the SecNav said this totally false. He and Admiral Green did not say that the order from Trump was not a direct order and that they never threatened to resign. Look at the source of this garbage. AP! They are the ones who helped the FBI get Manafort.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 11/23/2019 8:47:46 PM (No. 243713)
So. next Trump picks up a phone and tells the SecNav that he either fixes this or gets another job.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/23/2019 8:48:59 PM (No. 243715)
Re #8, that’s good. But it would have been helpful to all if you had posted a link to that report.
Re #5, that’s absolutely right.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
panther361 11/23/2019 9:00:46 PM (No. 243727)
You start pulling these clowns retirement and you'll see a neck snapping about face.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
snowbear 11/23/2019 9:09:55 PM (No. 243735)
Was there something unclear in my Twitter, Mr. Secretary?
Let me try this again a different way. YOU'RE FIRED!!
Donald J. Trump
HMFIC
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DVC 11/23/2019 10:11:28 PM (No. 243772)
Appaarently, more AssPress Fake News.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 11/23/2019 10:50:49 PM (No. 243802)
POTUS could fart an order and you'd better interpret it the best you can and follow it, arsehole.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
bighambone 11/23/2019 10:54:37 PM (No. 243803)
I bet you ten bucks that PresidentTrump knows how to settle this dispute and if Trump has to do that, there are going to be two people who are not going to be very happy.
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Mr. Secretary must not be a military type. Any suggestion, request for info from the senior officer in the room,
especially a flag or general officer, is treated as a direct order with immediate if not sooner compliance. If it is the Commander in Chief, that means yesterday.
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So, the President makes his feelings made known in a Tweet, and the Sec Def of the Navy doesn't take it as a sign to stop the proceedings? Before, it was reported that Navy brass are ready to "retire or be fired" over this. Are we parsing words now to show that YOU need an official document? That can be done, as well as one requesting your resignation.