Why Elizabeth Warren's new
two-step healthcare proposal
is going to blow up in her face
Washington Examiner,
by
Philip Klein
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
11/16/2019 5:15:49 AM
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has been stalling in polls, announced a two-step plan Friday aimed at escaping from the healthcare trap she has gotten herself in. But in reality, the new proposal is likely to blow up in her face.
To this point in her presidential campaign, Warren has allied with Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont to stake out an extreme position by insisting that anything short of a $34 trillion overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system, which would require kicking 180 million people off of private insurance, was insufficient. In doing so, she has railed against plans from other candidates, including former Vice President Joe Biden
Reply 1 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 11/16/2019 6:10:38 AM (No. 236447)
What Warren is exposing is her Achilles Heel. People will say that she presents her ideas well and with confidence. She may even believe what she is saying. The problem is, as you start looking at the details, you realize they are either missing or made up of fairy dust. This is not unlike BO who "spoke" well and with certitude and had definite ideas if what he wanted to accomplish but clearly had NO IDEA of how to make it work.The difference between the two is that BO believed in the ideology to the point that he had faith it could all be worked out. Warren comes off as a policy wonk who has "thought it through" to a solution. However, neither really understands what they are doing.
The liberal failure is to put their faith in government solutions of complex problems. Conservatism realizes that individuals find the best solutions for themselves. Each company picks a group of plans for their employees, targeted to keep costs low for the company and employee while keeping standards of care up. The employee then picks the specific plan that works best for them. MOST employees find that the insurance they get works reasonably well for them. If not, the company is directly accessible to hear complaints. Best of all, the cost is largely paid out of the company's revenue; the employee's labor covers the bill and is therefore self sustaining. Also, BTW, most of employer sponsored plans also cover pre existing conditions.
The solution that works is: Get a job and use the insurance provided. Warren wants to tear apart a system that works for perhaps 90% of working age adults and replace it with a system that is in use in many places and comes with lowered standards of care, lack of innovation, and long waits (sometimes fatal) for needed care. Worse, it is to be managed by a massive, fossilized, distant, unresponsive bureaucracy.
Let's keep the current, working, system and work to improve the situation for the 10% of people who need something better.
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If this did magically happen for Warren the R's would campaign on it in the following mid-terms, then whimper in the corner with some lame excuse as to why they can't overturn anything. We've seen that movie before.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Strike3 11/16/2019 7:44:25 AM (No. 236480)
The author calls Warren's plan "unrealistic." He is being incredibly nice to her. The woman is a lying loon and doesn't have a clue what it takes to manage healthcare. Taxing the billionaires will not come close to paying for it and it can't possibly be implemented in her timeframe without falling on its face like Obolacare did.
Healthcare rules are complex and it will take years of negotiations and government squabbling.
Not even mentioned is the necessary years of computer programming effort. All insurance and healthcare software is complex and the bugs that will be introduced into a radical change like she proposes would kill the system even if it could be financed. I just spent a year along with a team of sixteen people making fairly minor changes for a major healthcare insurer. A complete rewrite would take upwards of five years. Her timetable is the biggest lie.
The American people don't want this disruption and they don't want nonworking people to receive free healthcare. I doubt that the percentage polled as being in favor of her presidency understands any of this, they just hear the word, "Free."
Cost cutting is necessary across the board to make private insurance available and affordable but the government will end up cutting the income of doctors, who are already unhappy with what Medicare pays. Congress would have to vote on relaxing restrictions and give up having their fingers in the pie - that won't happen.
Has anybody asked her the obvious question, "will congress and all federal employees be required to give up their free private insurance?" That question alone will get her booed off the stage.
She could simplify the whole process by hiring some Native American Shamans and supplying them with dried bones, peyote and a supply of buffalo and wolf blood. It was good enough for her ancestors, wasn't it?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 11/16/2019 8:20:55 AM (No. 236506)
Very thoughtful comments, #1. It all makes sense to me and I agree.
However, the dims and the deep state are interested in only one thing - power and control over every facet of our lives. A deep state that desires to provide a centrally planned economic system and social order for us all - except for themselves of course. While our federal government is drowning in debt and a fiscal solvency crisis looms.
The American economy continues to hum right along thanks to $1 Trillion annual deficit spending and the Treasury Department is still convincing other foreign nations to continue buying our Treasuries to keep us afloat. Even if congress could operate with a balanced budget today, it would take 30 to 40 years re-pay them aside from the interest payments being made. And amazingly enough, inflation somehow remains in check. In 2013 according to usdebtclock.org, the national debt was $16 billion and if you were to stack $1 bills into the air, it would stretch over 1 million miles. Today, the stack of dollar bills stretches to 1.5 million miles. And oh, by the way, depending on which source one believes, there are $122 Trillion in unfunded liabilities on the federal government's books. These are programs passed into law for us citizens for which there is no money to pay for them.
And now we have Lizzie Warren saying no problemo taking on another 34 Trillion in debt to finance the largest ponzi scheme in our nation's history. While she may have thought through her basic ideas on centralized health care, I really doubt she considered the financial crisis that is about to blow up in our faces BEFORE a program like hers were to even get off the ground. Whew.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
StormCnter 11/16/2019 8:25:27 AM (No. 236511)
An op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this morning excoriates Mrs. Warren's tax plans, stating a theoretical example in which an investor of sixty dollars could end up with an 158% tax on his sixty dollars.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/16/2019 8:54:53 AM (No. 236551)
I am just wondering why Warren is selecting my healthcare plan instead of me. I prefer to get a menu and order my own lunches.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 11/16/2019 9:09:24 AM (No. 236558)
It is important to remember that Lizzy's life experiences have nothing whatsoever in common with the lives of normals. When she needs something, it's there. She is a VIP.
To support Warren's plan, any work-a-job-raise-a-family-pay-your-bills American must somehow forget the lessons of everyday life. The life-lesson of normals teaches that there is an inverse relation between the size and scope of the company/entity you must deal with and the degree of importance that company/entity assigns you. Try wading through a utility or communication company or state/national entity's customer service with a billing or service question. Their idea of improving service is to have you speak with an automated entity that someone has convinced them is the pinnacle of customer service, that must be dealt with and outsmarted before finally reaching a human being, who will likely transfer you elsewhere anyway. The lesson? Smaller is better!
Warren's 'Medicare for All' (MA) scheme will increase the layers of feckless bureaucratic insulation far beyond anything we've yet seen. If put in place, Rand's famous meme "Who is John Galt?" will be replaced by "Who is MA?"!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
edgar 11/16/2019 9:20:47 AM (No. 236570)
This is a different approach to communism. Her plan will make all Americans' a slave to the healthcare system. Most, if not all of our money will be used for healthcare. Not good for the economy, innovation or freedom.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 11/16/2019 9:21:54 AM (No. 236571)
Ruh roh. The $16 billion above should be $16 Trillion.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
HotRod 11/16/2019 9:28:30 AM (No. 236579)
Anything the government does is expensive, wasteful, and ripe for fraud. We must tolerate all that for the things that only government can do, but health care isn't one of them!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Franz 11/16/2019 9:40:52 AM (No. 236593)
While most politicians and all Democrats love spending other people's money, Sen. Elizabeth Warren's $34 trillion plan to overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system is pure fantasy. Unless the money fairy rides up on a unicorn with the money, its not possible.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
starboard 11/16/2019 10:33:30 AM (No. 236640)
Warren to me has proved she's totally ignorant of economics and is nothing more than a self absorbed politician of the worse kind trying hoodwink the American people.
She's stalled in the polls because she's reached her apex of supporters which are other angry victim-minded, Leftist women. That's it. An intelligent person, whether man of woman will not vote for her. Plus she a proven liar and acts like a lunatic with her screeching voice. Basically, she's not an attractive package. However all that said, I hope she gets the nomination.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 11/16/2019 11:20:33 AM (No. 236687)
Liz Warren has a two step healthcare plan? Let me guess:
1. First you get sick.
2..Then you die.
It will still cost 50 trillion dollars.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Wendybird 11/16/2019 11:42:14 AM (No. 236700)
Another way to save tax payer money. Require all physicians and nurses to have alterations to look like Ms. Warren and wave their arms about like windmills while babbling nonsense. Then nobody would dare to get sick.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 11/16/2019 12:46:48 PM (No. 236752)
Princess Many Wampum has had other stuff blow up; the beer fridge, the peace pipe, the Harvard gig, and now her Bad Medicine. She is in bad need of her Happy Hunting Ground!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
RedWhite&Blue2 11/16/2019 1:38:54 PM (No. 236787)
Bla bla bla
Squaw speak with forked tongue
Heap big liar
What else is new?
You’ll NEVER unseat my President!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
whyyeseyec 11/16/2019 2:38:35 PM (No. 236829)
Just the cost of a govt healthcare bureaucracy to implement and operate a one size fits all system is enough to make society scream run and in the opposite direction - and that's before the first patient even gets an aspirin or band aid.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
IdSpud 11/16/2019 7:05:51 PM (No. 237008)
Remember the Gipper said the scariest thing in the world is to hear, "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help." Let me choose my own health care, if you don't mind.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Trigger2 11/17/2019 1:58:36 AM (No. 237180)
Vote for Communism or vote for freedom. That's the bottom line choice in 2020.
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