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School Districts Push A Return To Busing,
Despite Their Own Data Suggesting It
Won’t Reduce The ‘Achievement Gap’

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Posted By: mc squared, 11/4/2019 11:00:21 AM

Multiple school districts across the country are considering busing-style programs to distribute impoverished students equally, but data suggest that such proposals would not reduce an achievement gap between poor students and their wealthier schoolmates, analyses by the Daily Caller News Foundation and others found. Demographic-based redistricting seeks to spread poverty equally among all schools. In Fairfax County, Virginia, that would mean every middle school would have 35% of students in poverty. But a DCNF analysis found that the Fairfax school that currently most closely mirrors that rate has the worst test scores in the entire county for non-impoverished students, and nearly the worst scores for impoverished students.

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We are far more divided now than we were then, despite Vietnam. This won't go well when they start moving children around again but based on the bank accounts of their parents.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 11/4/2019 11:10:31 AM (No. 226838)
Just can't resist making the same stupid mistake over and over again.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Highlander 11/4/2019 11:16:41 AM (No. 226846)
Bringing in trouble-makers from “da hood” and busing white children the other direction is guaranteed to fail as before. Of course, when did that inconvenient fact stop libs?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Northcross 11/4/2019 11:21:01 AM (No. 226850)
In other words, those who show no intelligence and who make no effort to succeed will fail at a majority white school or a majority black school.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 11/4/2019 11:37:14 AM (No. 226869)
If you are a black kid and your parents don't care if you attend school or not, whether you do your homework or not, sitting next to a white kid isn't going to change anything for you, but will mess up the education for the white kid. If you are a black kid whose parents make sure you attend classes and do your homework, and push you for good grades, you will succeed. Just that simple. Rotten, uncaring parents make for poor students.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: seamusm 11/4/2019 11:46:54 AM (No. 226885)
As harsh as this appears it would be better to bus them to other homes with a father present.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird 11/4/2019 12:11:43 PM (No. 226910)
You cannot make kids want to learn. They do or they don’t. If their parents are uneducated or disinterested, the kids have a more uphill task, but it is not impossible. Two of the smartest kids I knew had parents who were both stone deaf from birth and did not speak. There was no verbal communication between parents and their children in the home. Our Hispanic periodic housekeeper speaks very little English, but her daughter has completed college and speaks and writes beautiful English. It is about what you value. Busing never accomplished anything but making a bunch of SJWs feel smug and self-satisfied, at which point they turned their attention to other subjects...
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Reply 7 - Posted by: cor-vet 11/4/2019 12:11:58 PM (No. 226911)
I think all of these elite lawmakers need to do this, and let us see by example, how well it suits their children and how it works out!
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Starboard_side 11/4/2019 12:16:53 PM (No. 226914)
First of all, stop the insanity of moving children, they are children, from their elementary school to a middle school, which is essentially a black hole for education. You don't push children from one school to another, which will only be 2-3 years, which that school has limited ability to assess what those children know, and don't know, and unable to hold any back if they aren't up to grade. Therefore, they are simply passed along, and then end up in high school further behind. Create the K-8 schools, and if you want to have a separate section of the K-8 school designated for "junior" high, or middle school, that is fine. The likelihood is your parents will know most of the teachers in the K-8 school, and your teachers will know you even in the 7 or 8 grade. Possibly a check on certain behaviors? Then, the teachers union should demand a return of discipline and respect for teachers. They have the political power to effect these changes that would improve their working conditions. Far too many work in hostile work environments that would not be tolerated in other industries or professions.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: JimJr 11/4/2019 12:57:27 PM (No. 226950)
#4, True. But for the kids who want to learn, they need classrooms without thugs.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: jalo1951 11/4/2019 12:59:59 PM (No. 226951)
It starts in the home. A few years ago I had a black student who was an absolute delight. He was a big reader and he was returning some books right before Christmas break. We talked together about books we both had read and recommended books to each other. I ask him if he was down to get a few books to read over Christmas break He told me no. He never took his books home. His family made fun of him for reading and getting good grades. This is what we are up against. Kids who want to do well but get no help or support from home. Parents who send their kids to school for the free food, the free babysitting service, A trip to the school nurse if they do not feel well. Moving a discipline problem from one school to another. accomplishes nothing. You could have Einstein teaching a course but if the student does not want to engage in his own education it will make no difference what school he is sitting in. Students are no longer held back and there are no consequences for poor or no performance. You try to tell them that there is no glory in being uneducated, unable to take care of yourself and they let you know you are wrong. In one class we were teaching research skills using careers as the catalyst. There was one girl who was simply not going to do the assignment. Trying to get into her head hoping to point her in a direction she might be interested in she calmly told me she would quit school at 16 and have a baby. That way she would get a check. And if she had a baby every two years she would get a bigger check. That's her future. Sending her to a mostly white, more affluent school would not change her attitude toward life. This is what she sees at home.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 11/4/2019 3:11:11 PM (No. 227058)
What about the carbon footprint?
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Catherine 11/4/2019 4:33:00 PM (No. 227102)
Baton Rouge, LA had a busing plan that virtually destroyed their schools. People moved away in droves. The judge enforcing it, John Parker, kept it in tact for fifty years. Yes, fifty years. He said he lost friends over it but never stopped it. That is until he retired. Then he stopped it. Wonder what incentive he had to keep it going all that time then stop it when he left the job. I bet I know. I bet we all do. It was outrageous then and it's outrageous now. In Baton Rouge it forced kindergartners to get on a bus at 6 a.m, ride an hour and a half to a school in the ghetto, then ride the same bus back in the afternoon. Most of us moved to small communities just outside Baton Rouge. The same will happen here if they go through with it.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rumblehog 11/4/2019 4:59:13 PM (No. 227126)
No concerns raised about Global Warming??
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Reply 14 - Posted by: preciosodrogas 11/4/2019 6:08:19 PM (No. 227179)
Interesting. I do see a spot where the comparison breaks down. In the race busing there is some basis in reality. It was a failed program but exposure to other groups got a useful conversation going. Poverty is an entirely different matter ... unless the goal is to take the country into socialism. With race busing kids of different races did see the world from different points of view. Poverty would have to go far beyond race. In race the kids only had to adjust their attitude and only had to deal with during school hours. Poverty runs much deeper. I fully agree that this is not likely to work but here's the thing. Our public school system is in shambles. As a nation we are more prosperous, our teachers are "better educated" with many having advanced degrees. The teachers get a reasonable salary and good benefits. The kids have more "tools" and all the latest of everything about education. The schools have more extracurricular activities: swimming, tennis, golf, etc. The schools get a huge bite of the taxes. Yet they are in shambles. Our kids are doing poorly. The money is mismanaged to a degree beyond comprehension. Something is out of wack. The educational system seems to have produced better students with far less in years passed. I don't know the answer, but all I seem to hear is how the buildings are crumbling, and that more money is the answer. I don't think so. In Colorado the county schools were in horrible shape. They had an army of phds. The last go-around the schools said they desperately needed $30 mil to build a state of the art high school ... and that if the proposal didn't float then the wanted at least $11 mill for bonuses and raises. The same thing was happening in other districts. They employed very expensive PR firm to "sell It" Those guys got paid and the school were deeper in the hole.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 11/5/2019 12:24:26 AM (No. 227387)
Not so fast. Those in low income areas with caring parents have their kids transferred to charter schools. It's like they are getting a private school education. What do they need busing for? To fleece taxpayers?
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