Frustrated users back agency
move to allow dishwashers
that clean and dry in an hour
Washington Examiner,
by
Abby Smith
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
10/20/2019 5:21:54 AM
Consumers outraged about slow dishwashers are staunchly backing an Energy Department move, over industry objections, to create a new category of products that feature a one-hour washing cycle.
Individual consumers have flooded the public comment docket in support of the Energy Department proposal, which grants a petition made by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a free-market think tank. The agency proposal would establish a separate product class for dishwashers that clean and dry dishes within one hour, an action that would exclude those appliances from current energy and water conservation standards until separate rules are crafted.
The Energy Department could finalize the proposal as soon as next year.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
franq 10/20/2019 6:48:45 AM (No. 212346)
And they want it done for minimum wage, by golly.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Daisymay 10/20/2019 7:07:33 AM (No. 212350)
Not only do I want a dishwasher that doesn't take 2 hours and 55 minutes to clean, I want my washing maching not to take 40 minutes to do a load. And while we're at it, I would bet a lot of folks want their incandescent light bulbs back (I would put myself in that category, but I still have a lifetime supply of them). I think Bush was to blame for the Light Bulbs, but Obama can take the Honor for being the Idjit who okayed the water conservation rules on Appliances! If a NEW company makes a one hour dishwasher or washing machine that cleans, they will put the other companies out of business!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
JMJ724 10/20/2019 7:12:58 AM (No. 212353)
Seems reasonable to me.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/20/2019 7:43:49 AM (No. 212371)
Is anyone going to address the problem of ineffective detergent??
22 people like this.
Yes. A shorter wash and dry cycle plus detergent that gets the stains out of coffee cups.
Jut like in the olden days.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
StormCnter 10/20/2019 8:34:07 AM (No. 212410)
I have a twenty year old Maytag dishwasher that never disappoints me. The dishes sparkle without exception. I'm scared to death of the day I'll have to replace it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
hoosierblue 10/20/2019 8:55:33 AM (No. 212435)
Correct, #6. Stick with the old machines if you can get them. New washing machines are a disaster also. Our old machine had to be replaced and did I have a surprise when shopping for one. I found that many do not have agitators and the one that do, to patronize the old school people like me, don't really agitate, they just kind of move a little. They don't let you adjust the water level, it is automatic after the load is weighed by the machine. When it is then filled, the water barley come up to the top of the clothes. Then the machine drains and refills the water during the cycle. The valves they use caused hammer knock in my pipes as they shut off so fast and this happens several times during the cycle. I had to put water arresters on the hot and cold lines to stop it. The lid locks down when the machine runs so that I can't commit suicide by crawling in it during the wash. Wonderful, but it also stops me from checking to see if I added enough soap. I have serious doubts about the cleanliness of our clothes that were washed.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
foxglove 10/20/2019 9:31:50 AM (No. 212481)
The object the exercise is to get the items clean not just wet whether it be clothing or dishes. My front load washing machine is very quiet and does a great job of tying the sleeves of my T-shirts in knots. I also think there is not a savings of energy when I have to run the self-cleaning feature which nearly takes four hours with super heated water which the machine does.
For clean dishes the Cascade Platinum pods work well.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
beancounter 10/20/2019 9:56:29 AM (No. 212509)
Question: Why do we need a government agency regulating dishwashers?
Answer: We don’t.
22 people like this.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 10/20/2019 10:01:36 AM (No. 212513)
Just bought a new clothes washer a few months ago, and I will never go back to the impeller style model. Trust me folks when I say that 35-40 minutes for the heaviest load is nothing compared to my old impeller style machine. Took up to an hour and a half, and clothes came out more wrinkled and dingy to boot. I will not go back to a water saver washing machine. Give me the agitator model every time. As to dishwashers, my current machine is about 15 years old and it takes maybe 45 minutes. I dread getting a new machine next year. I don't want a two hour cycle. That is beyond ridiculous IMO. Dishwashers have always been considered users of less water than doing them by hand. More sanitary as well.
6 people like this.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
DEW JR 78 10/20/2019 10:05:21 AM (No. 212520)
Don't know what all this complaining about long dishwasher cycles is about. We have a machine, about two or three years old, don't know if I'm allowed to use the brand name here, but it's a Bosch, that has a 30 minute cycle which is just one button you select. That is all we ever use and the everything we put in the machine comes out perfectly clean. We researched for a dishwasher that had a 30 minute cycle and have been very pleased with it. Hope the government doesn't butt in and screw it up, like it does to most things.
Don Ware
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
JL80863 10/20/2019 10:07:59 AM (No. 212528)
Return to the previous technology. Any additional energy use can easily be offset by not watching fake news. There, problem solved.
9 people like this.
Reply 13 - Posted by:
southernboy 10/20/2019 10:57:15 AM (No. 212568)
The most energy efficient dishwasher would be one that didn't work, therefore take no energy! The most efficient toilet, waterwise, is one that won't flush. We're almost there. in both cases.
3 people like this.
Reply 14 - Posted by:
proximo 10/20/2019 11:20:53 AM (No. 212592)
I upgraded last Fall from a 2000 era GE dishwasher and clothes washer/dryer to current model Whirlpool and absolutely love them. The dishwasher has a one hour option but I just use the normal wash cycle with extra dry time. It takes about two hours but everything is clean and spotless dry when I open the door and it uses a hell of a lot less water. The clothes washer is the non-impeller style with automatic level sensing. It takes 20-30 minutes to do a basic wash cycle and the spin cycle leaves the clothes nearly dry so the dryer doesn't have to run long at all to get them completely dry. Very, very, pleased.
2 people like this.
Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 10/20/2019 11:55:58 AM (No. 212628)
Back to the future? Old model dishwashers did this when I was a teen, 50 years ago.
But since then, the evil Energy Department has steadily made ALL THINGS work more poorly and cost more.
These are "Green Appliances", and they are like all other "green" things - ultra expensive and do their intended job far more poorly and ineffectively than the NORMAL appliances and things.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
mean Gene 10/20/2019 12:15:48 PM (No. 212651)
During the Obama years my old dishwasher broke.
I bought a New Zealand one and imported it to my address.
Then I had a handyman install it.
53 minutes for either top or bottom drawer to completely clean the dishes, pots and pans.
Fisher & Paykell if you want to look into it.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 10/20/2019 12:25:00 PM (No. 212659)
Close down the Department of Energy. Just fire all the people and close the doors. End it.
No good comes from it.
Oh, and transfer the nuclear weapons portion to the Dept of Defense, this is useful. Put the NNSA
under DoD.
5 people like this.
Reply 18 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/20/2019 5:50:10 PM (No. 212835)
Have a believed Insinkerator of uncertain vintage that I smile at and give a pat so it keeps on going… About a half hour to do a load of dishes using Normal and No Heat Dry. Our water is hot, so after the first spinner dry, the heat in the unit dries whatever is left. I leave the door ajar a bit. I do dishes very early in the AM while reading at Lucianne, so no inconvenience to anyone...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 10/21/2019 2:30:49 AM (No. 213120)
Best wishes on your "smile and pat" approach, hope it keeps working for a long time. Sure can't hurt.
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