This city in Idaho is why L.A. can’t legally
clear its streets of homeless encampments
Los Angeles Times,
by
Maria L. La Ganga
Original Article
Posted By: earlybird,
10/15/2019 11:29:30 AM
BOISE, Idaho — The homeless men and women who live in Idaho’s largest city are well-nigh invisible.(Snip)Yet, it is this midsize city with its relatively manageable homeless population that is setting the enforcement standards for its much bigger counterparts in the West.
Boise Mayor David Bieter is attempting to challenge a landmark federal court ruling that prohibits cities from ticketing or arresting homeless people for sleeping or camping on public property if there are no shelter beds available as an alternative. The city and county of Los Angeles, along with several local governments in California and elsewhere, have filed court documents supporting Bieter’s bid.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/15/2019 11:43:23 AM (No. 208010)
Strange headline. Maybe my reading comprehension is off this morning…
Santa Barbara cleared much of its downtown of homeless encampments and living rough vagrants years ago. Very active businesses that brought pedestrians and night time activity to the Lower State area that was for long Santa Barbara’s Skid Row played their part. The homeless didn’t want to be where it was so busy, and for so many hours of the day and night. The mayor also cleared them off the public courthouse grounds and entryway. Periodic sweeps cleared tent camps that erupted across from East Beach. Whether the effect has lasted, I don’t know. We haven’t been back for quite a while.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 10/15/2019 12:11:04 PM (No. 208034)
Something I missed in the Constitution about the necessity to have shelter beds available at all times?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 10/15/2019 12:30:47 PM (No. 208046)
Some places can ban sleeping on the streets, last month under a newly approved ordinance Imperial Beach, Ca expanded regulations against camping and sleeping in parks and other public spaces to include streets and sidewalks.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
joew9 10/15/2019 12:45:06 PM (No. 208056)
Simply defy the court ruling.
The court doesn't have a police force. The FBI is not going to do anything as long as Trump is President. Get it cleaned up before he is replaced. Once they are gone, it will take a while to put them back.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
PlayItAgain 10/15/2019 1:03:45 PM (No. 208073)
Pay no attention to those homeless on our streets! Look at Boise!
That silly Ninth Circuit. They caused all this. We'd have no problems if it weren't for them.
I'm encouraged the the LA Times is at least acknowledging that there is a "problem" with the homeless in their city. It must finally be affecting the voting public.
This article is all over the place.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
GO3 10/15/2019 1:41:41 PM (No. 208100)
Weird article. Boise is a blue city, in a blue county, in a red state. The dem mayor and his constituents just figured out their enlightened view of the homeless ain't so enlightened and now want the rules to change to get these guys of the streets and out of the parks. So, the LA Times is just showing an example of why LA, which enthusiastically adopted similar policies, can point to little ole Boise and say, "look, it sucks there, too!"
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
worried 10/15/2019 2:06:50 PM (No. 208121)
Are there no vacant malls, factories or other buildings that could be used to shelter the homeless? Or don't they want to be away from places where they can panhandle or feed their drug habits? Any closed prisons that could hold families, or similar facilities? Or would a former prison be beneath their dignity? I'm sure there are answers to most of the homeless problem, but then again, I remember that woman in New York city who slept over a grate outside a store. She was offered a job, but preferred to go back to the grate. How many are like her?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
KTWO 10/15/2019 2:16:21 PM (No. 208129)
Agree. A strange headline.
A newspaper article could and should have clearly explained the issue, its status, and the players w/o all that nonsense - utter nonsense - about Boise stopping Los Angeles and others from dealing with the homeless.
Even so, the article is about as unbiased as the LAT ever prints in the 21st Century. Although toward the end it dissolves into the usual spin.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 10/15/2019 2:45:33 PM (No. 208148)
For the mentally ill or drug addicts, there should be mental institutions. For the bums, run them out of the city limits if they won't stay in the shelters which are available. LIterally -beggars can't be choosers.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/15/2019 2:58:58 PM (No. 208158)
The headline in today’s print LAT:
“Boise is testing homeless ruling. L.A. is watching - City’s legal fight could set bar for camp enforcement"
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/15/2019 3:03:21 PM (No. 208162)
As mentioned in this and other articles, shelters are not just a permanent place for all of the homeless to go. The shelters too have rules and limits. Rules about sobriety; limits on the time the person can stay, limits on what they can bring with them.
Many of the homeless find the shelters to be too restrictive of what they perceive to be their freedom. So they prefer to live rough. Their choice. Deal with that, LA and Boise.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
udanja99 10/15/2019 6:45:07 PM (No. 208326)
I’m just back from a 5 day business trip to Seattle. Everything you read about their homeless issues is true - I saw a lot of it. I even saw tent cities on the shoulders and in the medians of Interstate 5. Residents complain but the leftist city government ignores them.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LoneVoice 10/15/2019 8:11:51 PM (No. 208380)
Darn that red state, Idaho. They're the one's causing Los Angeles to have its homeless problems. If Los Angeles really wanted to end this stupid ruling by the 9th Circuit they'd send lawyers to back up the city of Boise's legal fight.
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