Bill Barr: ‘In the Framers’ View, Free
Government Was Only Suitable and
Sustainable for a Religious People’
Cybercast News Service,
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
10/14/2019 5:55:26 PM
Attorney General Bill Barr spoke at the University of Notre Dame Law School on Friday, saying that the Framers of the U.S. Constitution believed that a “free government was only suitable and sustainable for a religious people.”“In a free republic, those restraints could not be handed down from above by philosopher kings,” Barr said. “Instead, social order must flow up from the people themselves, freely obeying the dictates of inwardly possessed and commonly shared moral values.“And to control willful human beings with an infinite capacity to rationalize, those moral values must rest on authority independent of men’s wills,” he said. “They must flow from the transcendent Supreme Being.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Gnana1 10/14/2019 6:05:49 PM (No. 207403)
WOW! So true. We need to hear and be reminded of this daily! Unfortunately, we not being edified by the pastors and priests from the pulpits. We are adrift. Like ashes floating in the wind.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Avanti1 10/14/2019 6:19:28 PM (No. 207414)
Barr said "“In short, in the Framers’ view, free government was only suitable and sustainable for a religious people, a people who recognized that there was a transcendent moral order antecedent to both the state and to manmade laws and had discipline to control themselves according to those controlling principles."
I read him to equate religion and morality, with the emphasis on morality whether or not it is associated with specific religious beliefs.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
winmag 10/14/2019 6:26:43 PM (No. 207424)
I hope he's ready to punish law breakers in keeping with good moral order.
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JunkYardDog 10/14/2019 6:35:28 PM (No. 207435)
Barr would make a good Pope! Better than the fool in the Vatican now, at least. The Left is destroying religion-they feel we should be worshiping the gvt (i.e. THEM) and not God.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 10/14/2019 6:49:53 PM (No. 207447)
If I were Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page and about 2 dozen other criminals in or formerly in the upper levels of the DoJ, FBI and CIA, this would make my blood curdle.
I believe AG Barr is sending a message. I sincerely hope that this presages some HARD times for these traitorous coup plotters.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 10/14/2019 7:04:23 PM (No. 207460)
It requires a MORAL people with some semblance of ETHICS.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
PESSIMIST 10/14/2019 7:40:38 PM (No. 207499)
Perhaps no one is Scalia, and those comparisons are silly in any event, but this guy Barr is surely in Scalia's constitutionalist tradition. The single best Trump appointee. In fact, he'd be a good Supreme Court pick down the road.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 10/14/2019 8:05:11 PM (No. 207517)
Possibly, #8. But actions speak louder than words. If he puts about 10 or 20 top FBI, CIA and DoJ folks in prison for a decade or two each, then maybe you are right.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
JoElla Bee 10/14/2019 8:19:41 PM (No. 207534)
Basically Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”
Even a cursory reading of the writing of our Framers reveals the precepts and principles of God and His Word to be foundational. Things began to change rather rapidly in the opposite direction following President Eisenhower ‘s decision regarding the space race, after Sputnik.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Enoch Powell 10/14/2019 8:39:25 PM (No. 207542)
Huh. So right. Just say it baby! The fruits are meeelllllttttiiiinnnngggg!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Krause 10/14/2019 9:32:25 PM (No. 207570)
Some of the framers, Jefferson was one, said that our form of representative government would work only if the citizens were moral and educated. We’re in trouble!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
JoElla Bee 10/14/2019 10:25:25 PM (No. 207600)
Explaining #11 for those who have forgotten, or do not know —-
(1950) - The National Science Foundation was funded by the Federal Government. (Involving the government in the topic of man’s origins).
(1957) - Russians successfully launched Sputnik.
(1959) - Advisors to President Eisenhower advised teaching evolution rather than creation in order to produce “better “ scientists in America.
Eisenhower asked Congress for $1 billion to fund the National Defense Education Act to revamp the way we teach human origins to be like others in the world. (1959 was also the 100th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s book, The Origin of the Species.
(1962) - Engels v, Vitale - Court finds school prayer unconstitutional.
(1963) - Madalyn Murray O’Hare , Abington Township School District v. Murray found Bible reading in schools unconstitutional.
(1968) - Epperson v. Arkansas invalidated an Arkansas statute that prohibited the teaching of human evolution in the public schools.
(1969) - No Fault Divorce Law passed. (Tearing down a nation begins by tearing down the home. This law surely made it easier!)
“Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state.” - Adolf Hitler
What a person believes about his origin will ultimately affect his belief concerning destiny, purpose of life, and behavior.
It’s estimated that it takes around four years from requesting the money to getting material into textbooks. Injected the godless theory of evolution in 1959 and by 1963 prayer and Bible reading were ruled unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.
Look around. We are living proof that we do indeed reap what we sow.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 10/15/2019 6:44:47 AM (No. 207704)
BTW----Buddhists are atheists.....that is to say....they do not worship Buddah or anyone but simply take Buddah's advice on how to make life better and less painful.
A good and ethical foundation may not require a devil and a savior.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
ZeldaFitzg 10/15/2019 10:48:25 AM (No. 207959)
Thanks for posting this. The American political philosophy (as expressed in our founding documents) does depend on the abundance from God and the fear of God. Bear in mind, that they were speaking of a religious people, not necessarily a "churchy" people in the traditional sense. Jefferson was certainly not churchy. Washington would sometimes attend church in Alexandria, but he would leave during the slight pause before communion. (I have read that Washington always stood to pray in church, even if others did not.) A good and recent book on this is "The Faith of the Founding Fathers" by David L. Holmes." [I wish we had italics.] We visited Washington's church in Alexandria several years ago; I understand that now, however, some plaque in his honor has been removed because he was the dreaded slaveholder (who freed his own slaves in his will, and arranged to free Martha's dower slaves upon her death).
Those in the far frontier (the western extremes of the colonies) were still considered religious, even though they were flexible in their practice. They might, for example, be married by a JP if the circuit rider wasn't expected for another six weeks (or not at all). They might rarely have church services on the frontier, and some visiting observers did complain, but in general they could have been considered a religious people. Where we examine this, we do find a god-fearing people or at least a god-conscious people, although they also may be a questioning people.
YMMV on this, as always.
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