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Donald Trump Drives Home Urgency to End
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Posted By: Imright, 10/13/2019 6:25:07 AM

President Donald Trump spoke at length about the sense of urgency to move troops out of the Middle East on Saturday, defending his decision not to defend the Kurds from Turkish aggression in Syria.“These wars, they never end,” Trump said. “And we have to bring our great soldiers back from the never-ending wars.”The president spoke to his supporters at a Value Voter Summit in Washington, DC, acknowledging the difficulty of the ongoing conflict in Syria.Trump argued that the contested area in Syria was only about 22 miles of borderland in Turkey, and that the Kurds had been fighting the conflict for years.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: George R. 10/13/2019 6:46:49 AM (No. 206005)
How is he gonna respond to the questions regarding his complicity, after the complete annihilation of the Kurds?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: worried 10/13/2019 7:07:09 AM (No. 206011)
#1, would you rather our young people be killed or maimed than some Kurds? Which has been happening right along for years, with no change in the policies in the Mideast.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: George R. 10/13/2019 7:25:28 AM (No. 206019)
"Worried" Where do you stand on annihilation?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bur Oak 10/13/2019 7:51:38 AM (No. 206025)
The USA is not the world's policeman and department of justice.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: lakerman1 10/13/2019 8:28:25 AM (No. 206061)
I agree that the unending wars must be ended. The problem is that there is no good point at which to end participation. The president is acting rationally, and his opponents, D or R, are not. That means there has to be an all out, worldwide war on filthy islamofascist terrorist pigs, probably using nuclear weapons, or a pullback of troops to the U.S., with the acceptance/recognition of some level of filthy islamofascist terrorism. (A state of living much like Israel.) Since no country is willing to nuke Mecca, a requirement for worldwide war on terrorism, I suspect we will continue to body search elderly ladies at airports, while refugee muslim fanatics continue to serve up small dishes of terrorism - Orlando, San Bernardino, Boston Marathon, and the like.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: LesUNo 10/13/2019 8:33:25 AM (No. 206064)
A history lesson: Conflict in the Middle East goes back 1,400 years with the death of Mohammad in 632 A.D. Two branches of Islam formed, Sunni and Shiite. The argument over who is the dominant sect continues to this day. However, contemporary conflicts are as much about power, politics, land, resources and rights as it is about sectarianism. This is not our battle. This war is not winnable and would be better handled by coalition forces from NATO and heavy sanctions on Turkey. The President is right to make this hard call. The press is negligent in reporting the number of troops withdrawn.....less than 100.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDConservative 10/13/2019 8:41:49 AM (No. 206068)
#1/3, where do you stand on committing American lives to fighting the wars of others? What is our obligation? Does that obligation run to infinity? Americans refuse to win and refuse to lose...we prefer to spend trillions and thousands of lives in a fools errand or two or three into perpetuity. Somehow that is the "right thing to do." And those who oppose these sorts of "wars" are invariably labeled unpatriotic, if not stupid, for not mindlessly buying into these invariable disasters. NATO's Euro partners can have this mess...oh, wait, they don't want any of that. As #5 points out, we can either destroy the jihadi enemy we all know as Radical Islam, or we can harden ourselves with all sorts of liberty-sapping "security". Never forget, if we change the way we live, the terrorists have won. Repeat that to yourself as you pass through an airport.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Mekkkk 10/13/2019 9:02:30 AM (No. 206083)
Finally someone is speaking the truth
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Reply 9 - Posted by: guybee 10/13/2019 9:29:24 AM (No. 206119)
Many are trying to find a balance between compassion for other people groups and the price American Soldiers (and families) are paying to be compassionate. PJT has drawn a line and said enough is enough. There is no peaceful or compassionate way to do this. So the choice is clear - protect Kurds and others continually, forever or protect our soldiers who have to reason to be there - other than to protect the Kurds. There are going to be a myriad of opinions on this issue. But in the final analysis, it is either them or us. PJT always votes for us. That is a good thing - none of the other swamp rats will do this. If you are voting against the swamp rats - then we have to back PJT in this decision.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Burninfilm 10/13/2019 9:31:57 AM (No. 206121)
Really #1. Are the Kurds going to come here to help us if we are fighting someone? They aren't our allies, they are the beneficiaries of our generosity, who could care less about us. The hard truth is that it's more important to save American lives than Kurdish ones. These are the hard decisions that real leaders make. Hats off to the President for protecting our troops and treasure.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DVC 10/13/2019 9:32:14 AM (No. 206123)
From the Commander in Chief who has to write the letters to parents and wives, and TRULY loves Americans, rather than just seeing them as cannon fodder to keep the Bidens in corrupt money, along with a lot of others.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/13/2019 9:40:13 AM (No. 206133)
The Muslims have been fighting the same war for centuries. The place will change. There will be a new cast of characters. Regardless, its the same war. it shows no sign of ending. People have tried to bring peace at other times. It did not work. Why would it work now? For many Muslims, they want nothing to do with this war. For some Muslims, however, it literally defines who they are. They carry this war with them wherever they go. We cannot solve this war for them. It is up to the Muslims to solve it. As long as there are Muslims who will take up arms, the problem will never be resolved. The biggest danger is the Muslim war will go worldwide. We don't want to get sucked in to their problems, but it is in our interest to not let this spread. The Turkish war with the Kurds is completely contained inside Muslim lands. As long as it stays there. good.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: red1066 10/13/2019 10:11:08 AM (No. 206166)
That's all well and great, but we now have a NATO member, and the next Islamic state shelling U.S. troops and the Kurds because of this kind of strategy. I'm all for pulling U.S. troops out of places that don't want us, but to abandon an ally, is just wrong. The NATO members better get a handle on Turkey. They are taking a lesson from Iran by courting Russia.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Wendybird 10/13/2019 10:27:58 AM (No. 206183)
Just happened on that speech. Remarkable that he can deliver something like that just after the one in Minneapolis. I don’t think that even the greatest speakers in history, like Winston Churchill, Lincoln, Joe Biden (just kidding), have anything on D.J. Trump.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: NotaBene 10/13/2019 10:30:48 AM (No. 206186)
We can not occupy Sunni Arab land forever. The Kurds cannot either. Let Assad and Syria take back that area together with the Kurds. A fret all, Assad won the Syrian war. Problem with these Kurds is that they are Marxists.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/13/2019 11:03:03 AM (No. 206217)
I stand with President Trump on this it never ends and graveyards are filling up with deaths of American hero soldiers killed in unknown lands while politicians fight in Washington DC. I want the US out of Afghanistan the never ending killing and maiming of American soldiers for too many years to count. Let the Muslim tribes settle or not settle their hate for one another it's not our fight.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: TJM 10/13/2019 11:22:14 AM (No. 206234)
Now liberals will have to become warmongers
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Bmoc 10/13/2019 12:37:21 PM (No. 206297)
My son was a field medic in Afghanistan for fourteen months. He is a brave, intelligent, and compassionate young man. He cared for the injured American and Afghani military and civilians. He is now a paramedic in a major inner city in our home state, taking after his old man (me). I was a paramedic in another major city before the inner city became what it is today. It was dangerous then. I was shot twice (once seriously) and stabbed in the chest once. It was only through Divine Intervention that I lived through that ordeal. My son has been 'lucky' in that while he is shot at all the time, he has yet to be hit. What a wonderful paradox liberals have given us with the growth of 'inner cities.' Those in need of our help have no problem shooting at those who come to help. Hmmm. I spoke to him late Thursday night and asked him what he thought of the 'pull out.' He told me that it should have been done long ago. When I asked why, he said to me that he had decided that in one of his last days 'in-country' when an Afghani he had 'saved' after he had been severely wounded less than ten days prior, had picked up a rifle and shot three American soldiers. They all lived, but the shooter didn't. He told me, 'They don't like us. They hate us. We will be there one hundred more years, helping them, and they will still hate us. They think of life differently than do we. Killing and dying for their religious beliefs is an honor for them. I've seen too many of my 'brothers' killed by those we are there to help. It's time to go.' Is he right? I don't know. I never served abroad, but I spent too much time in the 'inner cities,' working on people who killed someone over ten bucks. We might be able to save the inner cities because while it seems that culture has been there forever, it is a recent growth under the liberal rule. The fight 'over there' is centuries old. They are taught to hate from birth. It's sad, but we can't stop it, and therefore, in my never to be humble opinion, it isn't worth another drop of American blood. It is time to walk away.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: DanvilleBill 10/13/2019 2:29:36 PM (No. 206351)
“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” ...Leon Trotsky Or, if you prefer, read some Hobbes.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: kristen 10/13/2019 3:30:55 PM (No. 206377)
We cannot get involved in every conflict around the world. Too often, our interference had made the situation worse, such as in Iraq. We created a horrific mess. Our troop should be defending our borders! We are being invaded.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: chase9365 10/13/2019 4:41:17 PM (No. 206417)
#1/3 When was the last time you visited the boys at Walter Reed or for that matter any Veterans hospital? Our President visits Walter Reed once a week. Religiously.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Rumblehog 10/13/2019 5:13:01 PM (No. 206439)
No American blood should ever be shed fighting for muslims. Americans should only invest in saving societies promising freedom and liberty for their oppressed. Islam represents the pit of hell on earth.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 10/13/2019 5:24:38 PM (No. 206455)
Maybe somebody should ask W. He's the guy who sent US soldiers to the middle east post-9/11 claiming WMD in Iraq was a threat and needed to be destroyed. Then, after the WMD likely gets buried in the Syrian desert, the conflict spreads, and poof, no WMD.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: cor-vet 10/13/2019 8:56:21 PM (No. 206574)
Make the conflict a volunteer conflict. Let all of the 'Hawks' that want to fight for the Kurds, suit up, get some basic training, grab a weapon and go fight. The hawks that argue for war, are never the ones that actually fight them. Like spending someone elses money to feel good, they are willing to sacrifice someone elses son or daughter to feel good.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone 10/13/2019 9:26:09 PM (No. 206591)
The USA does not have to go on fighting the Islamic world’s endless Middle East Wars indefinitely to keep the infidel hating foreign Islamist terrorists out of the USA. In that respect if the USA effectively administered and enforced the immigration laws, and the borderline, including a competent borderline barrier where needed, the foreign Islamist terrorists would not be able to get into the USA, or stay in the USA unlawfully as the 9/11 terrorists did, until they formulated and carried out their terrorists acts killing as many innocent Americans as possible. That’s just common sense. As far as ISIS is concerned. All the countries in that area of Northern Syria are enemies of ISIS and banding together have the military wherewithal to wipe out ISIS in a much more brutal fashion than the American Forces could do, if ISIS against raises its ugly head by flat killing them all.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 10/14/2019 1:35:15 AM (No. 206712)
#18 Thank you for sharing that story. Why is it upon US to save the world at taxpayer expense or at the expense of our soldiers? Most of them hate US but want foreign aid. If the crisis is this bad, how come no other country with a military, like the UK jumped in to save them? We are the only country who borrows money to give away. Where is the UN ? France ? Germany ? UK ? Anybody ?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: weejun 10/14/2019 2:25:39 AM (No. 206736)
I live near Ft. Carson in Colorado, home of the 4th Infantry division and 10th Special Forces, both of whom are supplying the bulk of ground forces in Afghanistan. Many of these fine soldiers are on their fifth and sixth deployments, with no end in sight. Trump is right: it’s time to leave, and not go back unless we are resolved to win. No more “nation building” for people and a religion who thumb their noses at American-style democracy.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: judy 10/14/2019 6:28:05 AM (No. 206771)
Brian on Fox & Lindsay Graham are obsessed with Trump pulling out of Syria. Let Trump do this thing & use sanctions & tariffs instead of staying for years like we are doing in Japan, SK, Germany , Afghanistan, & Iraq
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Posted by Pluperfect 10/14/2019 4:48:48 AM Post Reply
All of Washington has been atwitter with the president’s recent decision to draw down American forces from their ongoing mission in Syria. The reason is the purported American abandonment — betrayal, in the eyes of many — of the Syrian Kurds. But the situation is more complicated than that. There has been much conflation of both the American mission in Syria and the disposition of America’s erstwhile Kurdish friends. The fact is, despite being the world’s largest stateless ethnic population, sharing a contiguous landmass that cuts across Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran — roughly a 500,000-square-kilometer area — the Kurds are by no means a monolithic entity.
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