74 Percent Of Conservative Californians
Are Looking Into Leaving The State
The Federalist,
by
Chuck DeVore
Original Article
Posted By: M2,
10/2/2019 7:17:41 AM
More than half of California voters have thought about moving out of state, according to a new poll from the Institute of Governmental Studies at U.C. Berkeley. A full 74 percent of the state’s very conservative voters say they’re looking into moving, and 84 percent of those cite California’s political culture as their rationale for leaving.
Unsurprisingly, the high cost of housing is mentioned by 71 percent of California voters who have considered moving out-of-state. More than half of voters ages 18 to 39 have thought about moving out of state, with more than 80 percent of that group citing high housing costs as the reason.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 10/2/2019 7:21:07 AM (No. 195330)
Is that 74 percent or 74 Californians?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Lazyman 10/2/2019 8:11:33 AM (No. 195372)
I'm sure that suits the Libs fine they don't like anyone thinking differently from them.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
RCFLyer98 10/2/2019 8:13:51 AM (No. 195375)
Exactly commenter!! If you're a liberal living in California, you helped create the mess in there. You made your bed, sleep in it! Don't come to my state and bring your baggage, voting the same liberal nonsense into my state's policies. Stay away!!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
mobyclik 10/2/2019 8:18:23 AM (No. 195377)
Well, that'll make room for thousands more illegals that the stupid liberals can support forever. Just don't come begging for federal aid to bail your flighty state out.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 10/2/2019 8:18:47 AM (No. 195378)
Were these ''very conservative'' voters polled individually? Is that half of REGISTERED California voters of half of California PROBABLE voters? Were these voters just expressing a desire to leave if Fauxcahontas was elected? Bus riders on the Clown Bus need to know before they spend their ducats in that state.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
chance_232 10/2/2019 9:07:51 AM (No. 195434)
In the meantime.....might I suggest that every republican get out and vote. And might I suggest that the GOP stop abandoning California and every reliable blue state?
A problem that I see is that liberals always point to their vote totals when in reality so many republicans just stay home and are never counted.
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JunkYardDog 10/2/2019 9:23:13 AM (No. 195465)
As a conservative living in Connecticut I fully appreciate how a conservative Californian feels. You feel lost and alone, but if Trump can be elected, anything can happen. I'm close to retirement and look forward to leaving for warmer climes, but I'll be here a little while longer, and nothing would please me more than to see the Dems implode nationwide. I think that the coming months and years will be a disaster for the Democrats for many reasons, so Cali conservatives hang in there! There is light coming at the end of the tunnel.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/2/2019 9:56:24 AM (No. 195498)
A “study” from the far left University of Califoria at Berkeley “Institute of Governmental Studies”? They know what California Conservatives are thinking and planning? This is propaganda, fake news, rubbish. Intended to create an effect rather than report on reality.
If it makes you feel good, have a ball, but it simply is not true …
I’d love to see the internals on just who they “surveyed” …
We are not liberals (obviously). We’re going nowhere. All of the conservatives we know feel the same way. We intend to keep fighting. When did Americans start giving up, abandoning their territory to those who would change it in dreadful ways?
I don’t understand the eagerness of some in far smaller, weaker states to give up California. Some attribute it to jealousy. I just call it ignorance. Provincialism. They have never understood us. They never will.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/2/2019 10:15:40 AM (No. 195523)
Okay. Let’s look at the study, not DeVore’s regurgitation. Keeping in mind that there were 4,735,054 voters who registered Republican for the 2018 election, and 5,419,607 who registered No Party Preference (and keeping in mind that all Conservatives are not happy with the Republican Party), here is the basis for this “poll”:
"These findings come from a Berkeley IGS Poll, conducted online in English and Spanish among a random sample of 4,527 of the state’s registered voters September 13 -18”
There are now nearly 20 million registered voters in the State of California. Do the math. 4,527 is indeed a small sample.
For those who wish to see the poll, there is a link embedded in DeVore’s rather exaggerated doomsday article.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/2/2019 10:23:20 AM (No. 195531)
Now it make sense. Chuck DeVore, a former California state assemblyman and failed candidate for Senate, decamped to Texas, where he has been with the Texas Public Policy Foundation. This article from 2012 reveals that DeVore has been beating the drum for Texas v. California, urging Conservatives to leave the latter and go to his new home, for some time. Could it be the increasing “blueing” of Texas that is leading him to seize on anything he can use to get Conservative Californians to move to Texas? Do you think? I do. With this Federalist article, he has tried to build a compelling case around a very flimsy “poll”.
Here is one of his earlier pieces from 2012:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2012/03/texas-vs-california-chuck-devore/
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Strike3 10/2/2019 10:58:43 AM (No. 195590)
I would think that owning one of those inflated-cost California homes would be the only barrier to leaving the state. Other than that you can just call U-Haul and start packing. This country has plenty of beachfront but, as mentioned above, leave your liberal politics behind.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DVC 10/2/2019 11:08:12 AM (No. 195606)
One of my friends from California, lifelong resident, was finally able to get moved out last week. Now living in Free America, lower taxes, massively lower cost of living, owns much more land, and can own whatever guns he wants, and buy them whenever he wants. He and his family were driven out after a long career in the the movie industry.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 10/2/2019 12:04:08 PM (No. 195684)
If enough leave, it will reduce the number of House seats, thus, Electoral College votes.
If CA ends up changing Prop.13, it will see a massive migration out, since the property taxes will be increased more than the mandated law of 2% max in any given year.
If you don't know, Prop. 13 fixes your property taxes at 1% of the buying price of your home, and allows for 2% increase, period. So, if you bought at $300,000 15 years ago, your property tax bill is $3000, plus any local school bonds and assessments, or likely 1.4% which can only be increased by 2% each year.
When Warren Buffett bought his Laguna Beach home in 1974, his property tax bill was less than $1000 per year despite it being valued at over $12,000,000. I believe he sold it a year ago, so the new buyer pays on the new purchase price, and Warren Buffett should have had a massive capital gains tax owed.
So, to leave, when your taxes are fixed, and your home may be paid off, can be difficult.
However, my niece and her very liberal husband, who are born and bred Californians, are looking to move to Washington next summer, basically due to the fact they can't afford to buy a home where they'd like to live. Her grandparents are likely to follow them, as will my sister and my brother in-law.
It's not just conservatives looking to leave.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/2/2019 12:19:53 PM (No. 195698)
Re #11, a condominium near us just sold in two days. (The elderly owner wanted to live in a nearby one-story home she found.) The listing price was $700,000. It sold for $730,000, which indicates there was a bidding war between two interested buyers. A nice condo; not a luxury condo. Built in the 1970s, it would have sold for $35,000.
A new condo project near us has asking prices of from $800,000 to $1.4 million. No one is having trouble selling a decent house. Even the doggy ones in areas a few miles away are going for good prices and being bought as tear-downs.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
hotcorner 10/2/2019 2:41:11 PM (No. 195874)
Was traveling through this week and regular gas was over $4.50 per gallon. How does a regular working stiff deal with that? Got home to Nevada and it was at least a buck and half cheaper per gallon.
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I've already done it. Put the not-so-Golden State--- and p***y Schiff's congressional district--- in my rear view mirror four years ago, moved to the red state in which I grew up. And no, I brought no liberal politics with me.
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