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Fury over the fading benefits of solar
power as thousands complain to finance
watchdog that glass panels don't provide
the rewards they were promised

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Posted By: Ribicon, 9/10/2019 10:49:38 PM

They were promoted as the eco-friendly way to generate both electricity and cash at the same time. But now thousands of home-owners who bought solar panels have complained that they're not reaping the rewards they were promised. The Financial Ombudsman Service has received 2,000 complaints and Barclays has put aside millions to compensate those who took on costly loans to pay for mis-sold panels.(Snip) After taking out a loan of £15,000 he discovered the panels did not generate the amount of electricity MyPlanet had promised–and also cost him more than £500 a year due to overheating issues.

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That familiar refrain, creating new climate skeptics each day. Here, solar companies sell a bill of goods, shut down, and flee with the Green.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: JL80863 9/10/2019 10:57:34 PM (No. 176802)
Something about one being born every minute.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: RuckusTom 9/10/2019 11:09:33 PM (No. 176809)
"... glass panels don't provide the rewards they were promised". Hmmm. There's a word for that. Something like frad? frud? fraad? fruud? I'm sure it'll come to me.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/10/2019 11:13:23 PM (No. 176812)
Solar power is of very limited use. So is wind. Green energy is no energy. However would the filthy rich socialists get around without fossil fuels?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: anniebc 9/10/2019 11:20:32 PM (No. 176814)
Duh...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: NorthernDog 9/10/2019 11:37:30 PM (No. 176827)
And if your roof needs replacing all the panels must come down and be re-installed. The panels eventually need to be replaced too.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Deety 9/11/2019 12:04:41 AM (No. 176834)
The purpose of "alternative, sustainable energy" was never to provide alternative, sustainable energy. It is to weaken the power grid, and thus the defence, of Western democracies.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Zarin 9/11/2019 12:19:47 AM (No. 176837)
OMG This is in Britain - which at 50 degrees is way north of the latitudes where a solar panel is even a bit 'efficient'. I seem to recall that 35 degrees is a passable latitude for solar panels - anything farther north or south is pretty much useless.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: joew9 9/11/2019 12:20:22 AM (No. 176839)
They didn't really give the full numerical details. I would estimate that the whole installation shown on a roof in the picture could generate about 20 to 50 cents of electricity per sunny day. Assuming half the days are not sunny enough, that comes out to about $90 per year max. For the loans mentioned I would think the payments would be $125/month minimum. So the panels couldn't generate enough value in a year to make a single month's payment. Considering that the cost of solar panels is pretty much a commodity price. And commodities are generally priced according the the energy used to make the product. That should tell us that these solar panels used more energy during manufacturing and installation than they will ever produce in their lifetime. So these panels are a net energy sink. I still believe that most of the big solar panel installations are net energy sinks where the energy for manufacturing and installation is paid for with subsidies by the government. And that energy has to come from fossil fuels. In other words a large solar panel installation cannot make enough energy in it's lifetime to build a second solar panel installation of similar size.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: chiller 9/11/2019 12:25:46 AM (No. 176843)
Sue the slimes out of business and do the world a favor
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Peeps 9/11/2019 12:55:35 AM (No. 176856)
Makes me so happy. More winning!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Omen55 9/11/2019 1:30:30 AM (No. 176867)
Oops!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 9/11/2019 2:49:10 AM (No. 176889)
This is in Britain. I am visiting there right now, wish I had brought a sweater. I wonder if these fools ever stopped for a second and thought that the sun has to be brightly shining for solar panels to work? I have visited Britain several times, one of the real lessons is that it is a country where cloudy is much more common than sunny. NOT a good place for solar panels. The desert southwest in the USA or other desert climates are best for solar, not any of the northern European countries. A hint is that none of their car makers ever started including air conditioning in their cars until Americans asked for them. Until the 90s or so, even the techno-savvy German car maker Mercedes cars had worthless, weak "air conditioners" factory installed on their cars. Finally, after decades of complaints from Americans, they sent a team of German engineers to the US to pick up a brand new Mercedes with A/C and drive around the SE and SW USA, check things out. They came back and reported, "They were right, our European A/C units are entirely inadequate for their climate." And, as their climate doesn't have enough consistent sunshine to need much of an A/C for cars, it also doesn't have enough consistent sunshine for solar panels to be cost effective, EVER.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Trigger2 9/11/2019 2:54:18 AM (No. 176894)
#3 questions how filthy rich socialists will get around without fossil fuels. No problem, they'll still have their fossil fuels and loads of more money. You just won't have either one.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 9/11/2019 3:27:31 AM (No. 176899)
And the article doesn't even mention the fire hazard problem with these live electric grids sitting on your roof that cannot be turned off in case of fire.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 9/11/2019 5:37:22 AM (No. 176916)
More than one of my "Liberal" friends has great facility with details but fails to grasp orders of magnitude. The climate change issue requires that one be able to grasp the magnitude of the planet. Likewise questions of power require the ability to think in very LARGE terms. A toy train in the basement is not a railroad system. Plastic straws are not killing the planet. They fail to see proper magnitude in both the problems and the solutions. Those who live in the world of symbolism and magic need to stay away from engineering.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 9/11/2019 6:53:36 AM (No. 176958)
And Algore chuckles in his lair...
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Reply 17 - Posted by: IAmButASimpleCaveman 9/11/2019 7:00:35 AM (No. 176965)
fraud indeed - now they have to pay up - but the salesman? they have already long since moved on to other frauds.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: learner 9/11/2019 4:37:50 PM (No. 177401)
Anybody here surprised? Bueller... Bueller...
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