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Dem senator worries Amazon's Ring doorbell
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Posted By: Ribicon, 9/6/2019 3:24:00 PM

Sen. Edward Markey expressed worries Thursday that Amazon’s video doorbell Ring and its partnership with law enforcement could lead to increased racial profiling, particularly with people of color. Mr. Markey wrote a letter to Amazon’s chief executive saying he was “alarmed to learn that Ring is pursuing facial recognition technology” and offering police departments access to Rekognition, their face-matching program. The Massachusetts Democrat added the technology raises “serious privacy and civil liberties concern” that “could easily create a surveillance network that places dangerous burdens on people of color” in areas where Ring has partnered with police officials. Although Amazon markets Ring

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It's anti-capitalist to object to Amazon collecting information on people's comings and goings from their own homes, and to them listing in on the surveillance devices people willingly install inside, for convenience. And it's unpatriotic to object to Google and Facebook and Amazon doing domestic espionage that our own agencies are prohibited from doing on their own. Racist also to point out that if People of Color would stop robbing people's houses, they would not be of interest to the police.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ribicon 9/6/2019 3:26:17 PM (No. 173258)
Related item I saw the other day; Amazon's Ring has been reporting back to police departments about which houses have refused to turn over video footage to police. Perhaps part of the Social Credit Score that's been rolled out for we the comrades. https://nypost.com/2019/09/03/amazons-ring-shared-stats-on-users-who-refused-police-requests/
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Reply 2 - Posted by: coyote 9/6/2019 3:30:20 PM (No. 173261)
Shut up, Markey.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: ByteGuru 9/6/2019 3:44:48 PM (No. 173270)
OK #1 ... I don't get it ... let me walk thru it ... a) package is delivered to your door - Ring records the delivery b) package is stolen from your doorstep - Ring records the theft c) you call the police to report the theft d) when the police investigate your reported theft, you refuse to give the police the video that may lead to you getting your package back. This begs a few questions: 1) How exactly are the police going to recover your package without any evidence or clues? 2) Did the package contain illegal stuff? 3) Do you really want the package recovered? WTH anyway?
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Clinger 9/6/2019 3:55:54 PM (No. 173277)
I'm calling you out Sen Markey. You are jumping top the conclusion that the thieves caught in the act will be disproportionately of color? Why is that? Are you prejudiced, racist?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: thewarden 9/6/2019 3:57:10 PM (No. 173280)
Well, my Ring cameras and those in my area that report to the app when they have video of crimes show overwhelmingly that the perps are almost always minorities...probably 70% Hispanic, 25% black and 5% other/white/asian. So, it is what it is...don’t want to be profiled, don’t do the crime!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: cor-vet 9/6/2019 4:03:39 PM (No. 173284)
I wonder how loud the dems would scream if it was announced that there was a way to use this technology at the polls, for voter recognition, so that a voter ID was un-necessary!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: snapper451 9/6/2019 4:04:27 PM (No. 173285)
Ed Markey, Senator of Massachusetts, who has lived in Chevy Chase, MD for years. Only went back to Massachusetts to run for Senate. A truly despicable excuse for a human being. Obviously it’s what Massachusetts likes in it’s Senator’s (Fauxcahontas, John F’ing Kerry - who served in Vietnam, Teddy the swimmer....).
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Reply 8 - Posted by: john56 9/6/2019 4:06:14 PM (No. 173289)
Maybe people aren't turning over the videos when they are Amish, etc. because the homeowners don't want to be profiled as "racists," or anti-Amish. So you lose a package now and then ...
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Reply 9 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 9/6/2019 4:07:25 PM (No. 173290)
Ed Mahkey is without a doubt one of the dumbest people in Congress. He is up there in the top 218, all Democrats. The OP gets it right. Where are the adults in this? We have to stop coddling criminals!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: kristen 9/6/2019 4:13:23 PM (No. 173295)
Is there no end to the Democrats list of idiotic statements? I realize this is an easy way for them to get media attention. The crazier their claim, the more media coverage.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Ribicon 9/6/2019 4:58:43 PM (No. 173316)
#3, the scenario here most likely is when police are looking for a person or a car that might have driven or walked past a house, coming from or going to an event of interest. People might decline such a request for any number of reasons having nothing to do with criminal activity on their part, but should that refusal warrant the homeowner being reported to the police? And why are we OK with needing linked surveillance networks on the pretext of keeping us safe from criminals that get released to the streets again and again? Real solution seems a lot simpler; lock up the bad guys and let us be.
"Those who are willing to trade freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security." -Benjamin Franklin
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 9/6/2019 5:07:10 PM (No. 173320)
So, the Sen worries that you'll be more inclined to imagine blacks are more prone to be criminals.....because you have a lot of PROOF that blacks are more prone to be criminals....and that is bad(??). FACT: Something well above 50% of violent crimes are done by a 13% minority group, and we are asked to pretend that it doesn't actually happen and that the only reason that so many blacks are in prisons isn't that they are criminals, but that "the system is racist".....presumably because in a "non-racist" system only 13% of the prison inmates would be black. And this is supposed to somehow happen regardless of the fact that blacks commit most of the crimes. - but they shouldn't be most of the prisoners? Insanity, thy name is "leftism".
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 9/6/2019 5:18:40 PM (No. 173327)
It’s funny that the liberal Democrats are now against homeowners all over America gaining an advantage through video surveillance means over perpetrating burglars, robbers, and thieves. There are law abiding delivery people of all colors and races who deliver packages and provides all sorts of services to homeowners all over America who are photographed by security cameras all the time and have no problem. There are not enough police in any jurisdiction today to just sit around and randomly look at homeowners security camera footage to try to catch someone violating a law. The only interest police have with homeowner’s video footage is after a specific complaint has been lodged as evidence to identify the perpetrator of an already committed crime.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 9/6/2019 5:29:51 PM (No. 173332)
My "Ring" won't bleed you out like my German Shepherd will. The remote gate latch was a great investment. Good Dawg !!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Omen55 9/6/2019 5:45:45 PM (No. 173339)
Amazon can ignore Markey as he'll be announcing his "retirement" to make way for the next Kennedy senator.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: chance_232 9/6/2019 6:54:12 PM (No. 173383)
If white republicans were comitting the majority of the crimes, the Senator would demand it. For the record Senator, facial recognition doesnt "profile". It compares a face shot to the database. The software measures your face and compares it. The distance between eyes, for example.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Guttenberg 9/6/2019 7:26:23 PM (No. 173403)
Gosh. If you don’t have any business on someone’s front porch, you shouldn’t be on that front porch. There, Mr. Markey’s problem is solved.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: MDConservative 9/6/2019 7:43:28 PM (No. 173412)
Let's not worry about the implications of all this. Anyone concerned about linking these and other devices to police personal recognition systems? One can easily discern how the terms of Patriot Act were abused by a corrupt administration and its law enforcement/intel allies to attempt a coup. Of course, it couldn't happen here with these household surveillance devices. We have this Constitution to protect us from abuse. Trust government...
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Smart11344 9/7/2019 1:19:52 PM (No. 173952)
No "ring" doorbell for me. It starts at the top. Bozos cannot be trusted.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 9/9/2019 3:53:14 AM (No. 175068)
Oh no you mean we will be able to identify criminals? How is that racist? I thought criminals came in all colors, shapes and sizes. Explain to us, Mr Markey how it is that you think that all criminals caught on this technology will be black? Sounds to me like you are the epitome of a racist.
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