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Michael Mann, creator of the infamous global
warming ‘hockey stick,’ loses lawsuit
against climate skeptic, ordered to pay
defendant’s costs

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Posted By: DVC, 8/24/2019 7:27:18 PM

Michael Mann, a climatologist at Penn State University, is the creator of the “hockey stick graph” that appears to show global temperatures taking a noticeable swing upward in the era when humanity has been burning fossil fuels and dumping CO2 into the atmosphere. The graph was first published in 1998, prominently featured in the 2001 UN Climate Report, and formed part of Al Gore’s 2006 movie, An Inconvenient Truth.

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A very big deal! Good for the sane side. Mann is not a scientist, he is a scammer. Any real scientist is happy to share his mathematical methods, and it is almost always in the appendix of the original article. Then critics can examine the math and see whether it is sensible. Mann is a faker, will not "show his work".

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Reply 1 - Posted by: edgar 8/24/2019 7:45:14 PM (No. 161363)
Apparently, this counts for science at Penn State.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: BirdsNest 8/24/2019 8:01:17 PM (No. 161375)
Bazinga!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: earlybird 8/24/2019 8:12:52 PM (No. 161379)
Mark Steyn has a lot to say. See his article, published today and posted a few posts up the page...
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Reply 4 - Posted by: padiva 8/24/2019 9:25:47 PM (No. 161399)
There are so many questions for these weather wizards. Who should be The Weather King (or Queen)? Who will decide what the optimal climate will be? Will it be for the whole earth or part of the earth? How will higher taxes and more regulations change the climate? What changes to the climate do they want? Will limiting people's freedoms change the climate? If everyone stands on one section of the earth, will the earth's axis tilt? Which way should it tilt? How much tilt for optimal climate? Will there be less thunderstorms if we don't use electricity? How do you describe a good climate day? Will it be less windy if leaf blowers and hair dryers are illegal?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Gabula 8/24/2019 9:54:40 PM (No. 161411)
Now Michael Mann can play Hockey without a stick and we can live our lives like we have since the beginning of time. May we all bless God! Gabula
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 8/24/2019 10:36:11 PM (No. 161427)
Don't think for even one nanosecond - - that this devastating ruling will reduce Michael "Piltdown" Mann's credibility by even one whit in the leftist media and among leftist "climate scientists." In fact - - his prestige will be enhanced ... and he'll be feted with another series of accolades and awards. Can you say "Nobel Prize"? Don't doubt it. These people are purely evil and soulless. They cannot be shamed.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Immanuel Goldstein 8/25/2019 12:10:27 AM (No. 161451)
Some nameless person, or people nailed this some time ago. A Youtube classic, to be sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc
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Reply 8 - Posted by: DVC 8/25/2019 2:13:31 AM (No. 161463)
Good one, #9.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: LadyChurchillUSA 8/25/2019 3:12:05 AM (No. 161465)
Anyone wanting to know about real climate change might want to watch this video which tells us why the levels of CO2 are changing, and always have changed. https://principia-scientific.org/strong-evidence-that-svensmark-s-solar-cosmic-ray-theory-of-climate-is-correct/ The problem with Svenmark's theory is there is no solution that the politicians can make money on. Therefore it is ignored by these so called scientist even though it has in fact been proven experimentally.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Sunhan65 8/25/2019 6:03:01 AM (No. 161479)
Hokey Stick.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: DynomiteThings 8/25/2019 6:20:57 AM (No. 161481)
I wonder how long it will take for the MSM to report on this major story... *crickets*
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 8/25/2019 7:28:37 AM (No. 161504)
This is a victory to celebrate. However, the war is not over yet.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: cobieone 8/25/2019 8:59:23 AM (No. 161550)
I agree this is a major victory for the truth. However, this will not even slow down the alarmists, not for a minute. This just makes Mann a martyr, blamed on big oil influence, or whatever. And the MSM will completely ignore this. The Democrats running for POTUS will completely ignore this. The Left will never give up on this lie.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 8/25/2019 9:14:32 AM (No. 161559)
Exposing the science fraud is a necessary first step but Alarmist "scientists" are going to fight this tooth and nail because their reputations and income are on the line. This battle can be won with facts over time. The political battle is another story. We have twits like Mittens Rummey who proclaim that Climate Change is an issue and are ready to roll over and sacrifice our way of life for a fraud. Similar dopes have hooked their reputations and political careers to the fraud and will be just as dead as E. Warren is for falsely claiming Native American heritage if they break faith with the Alarmists. This battle cannot be won by facts alone. Killing the fake science will help but not assure victory.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: grampus 8/25/2019 9:24:21 AM (No. 161564)
This also is a kind of belated victory for Virginia's former Attorney General Cuccinelli who was stonewalled by Mann when seeking public documents concerning Mann's expenditure of funds while scamming UVA (whose president at the time had weathered accusations of scientific misconduct at the University of Texas along with Liz Warren. )
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Reply 16 - Posted by: WesternTradition 8/25/2019 12:03:17 PM (No. 161734)
This is welcome news! Climate Change "scientists" are the biggest threat to our national existence. Go Mark Steyn.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: jlw509 8/25/2019 12:56:41 PM (No. 161804)
The great hope is that this may inspire a robust counter-offensive against the Lysenko Left. Blacklisted researchers -- defamed critics --- silenced skeptics ---get in there and sue, sue, sue. Target the 4-pinocchio climate criminals and sue their pants off.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: JHHolliday 8/25/2019 2:46:13 PM (No. 161873)
The warmist scammer and all the left won't give up, of course. AGW is the perfect scam for the left. It would have provided them with what they endlessly lust after, power and money, especially power. The power to tell you how to live your life and how to think. This is their Holy Grail, power and control and the ability to redistribute your money to who they deem deserving (themselves in many cases). Their sanctimonious self-regard and hubris are simply endless. They are the wise elite....so much smarter than the rest of us and to disagree with them drives them into a violent rage. The proud and arrogant person—“Mocker” is his name— behaves with insolent fury. Proverbs 21:24
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Franz 8/25/2019 2:46:17 PM (No. 161874)
Dr. Michael Mann brought a multi-million dollar libel suit against Dr Ball for saying his "hockey stick" data was fraudulent. The trial was scheduled for February 20, 2017. Before the trial, that Mann requested could take place, Mann moved for an adjournment of the trial! The Supreme Court of British Columbia granted the request with the condition that Mann produce all documents including computer codes by February 20th, 2017. He failed to meet the deadline and was found in contempt of court. FTA: Mann’s now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball’s statement that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State" is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada’s unique ‘Truth Defense’, Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann’s entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team. I bet this will never be reported by the MSM.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: NotaBene 8/25/2019 4:08:31 PM (No. 161945)
The Climate Fakers are a very profound problem for science. They pulled a total hoax with global warming computer models with the help of the journals such as Nature and Science. People will lose faith on the scientific method. The United Nations and the Papacy have been tarnished by this scandal. Were it not for North America, USA and Canada, this huge lie would have had no opposition and the Rothschilds would have a free way for their New World Order. Thank you President Trump for nixing the Paris Global Warming Agreement. That was the turning point.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Omen55 8/25/2019 7:26:03 PM (No. 162080)
Frak you! Pay me!
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Tianne 8/25/2019 8:46:08 PM (No. 162139)
Al Gore should be the first U. S. alarmist to be discounted and sued - he is a former Vice President of the U.S., and people held him in trust, Al Gore infected the minds of millions of schoolchildren with his self-serving and fraudulent film and speeches. School boards that demanded that his film be shown to students should be recalled and sued. TV Weather 'experts' and pundits who portrayed themselves as climate authorities should be discounted and sued. Climate alarmist politicians (the Left including Mitt Romney) should be held to account for spreading false information and statistics that left no room for dissent - and they should be made to answer for their comments at every rally, every Townhall, every campaign stop - and they should be sued for voting for funds be used to further this hoax.. Finally, there is no punishment strong enough for Mr. Mann - he caused billions of dollars to be wasted while real problems were ignored. Mr. Mann should be sued for multi-millions and held up to harsh ridicule for the rest of his days.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Zarin 8/25/2019 10:43:09 PM (No. 162207)
Man is insisting this is not a loss - huh!!?? IIRC 15 years ago a mathematician in Canada was asking Mann how he came up with that graph. Mann refused to share then, so the Canadian math wiz deconstructed the graph & pronounced it mathematically improbable. FTA: "including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud." The really good news is that Mann may be subject in the US to criminal investigation & fraud charges!!
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