Democrats point to Nordic nations
as models of socialism.
Here’s how they actually work.

FTA: “We shall see whether it can withstand full and accurate information about how those systems actually work.” “full and accurate.” Something you’ll never get from this band of thieves.

With a populace that's almost homogeneous, there's a huge difference with our country. With all of the Africans that the Nordic countries are adding, we will see if the Socialist countries survive...

Bernie Sanders and anyone who thinks like him are of an annoyance. It is no different than going to a church and board members or pastors want to look at what other churches are doing for their own platform. Why do we have to look at other countries? We have many talented individuals within the United States that can make and keep America great. Let's start with Donald Trump and re-elect him to this wonderful country. Great talent and effort follows. No, Bernie, we don't need your copycat ideas.

This is quite accurate about the Nordics, and it's true that the Dims are a weird mix of ignorance and deceit about socialism in Scandinavia. But the main point, which they all do cartwheels to avoid and the Enemedia will never ask about, is that the US Constitution specifically and intentionally makes socialism, or anything like it, well, unconstitutional.

The dems are expert in PR. They look for a popular "brand" and then try to jump on the brand coattails saying, "That's the brand we want to emulate". However, dems are also very fluid when using words and facts. They either don't go into detail, which would expose all sorts of contractions. Or they outright lie about it. Most people like apple pie. "Mrs. Smith's" is a popular brand and the name evokes positive feelings. The dems will claim that they are going to make all of us a pie like "Mrs Smith's". They want us to smile and shake our heads in the affirmative. The problem is, they are going to use oranges instead of apples. Now there IS such a thing as an orange pie but I have never had one. I don't know if I will like it. I am going to ask a lot of questions before I dive into one. "What does it taste like?" "What's in it?" How much does it cost?" "Is it hard to make?" These are the types of questions the dems don't want to answer. Either they don't know or they know the answer is not very palatable. If past history is any guide, we can be pretty certain that it won't taste very good. The one thing we CAN be sure of, it will require more government control, more money paid to government and inefficient use of that money, and will give more power to the dems. The dems however, just want you thinking "Mrs. Smith's apple pie", "Mrs. Smith's apple pie", ...

I have good friends in Sweden who do not think much of their country's health care system, or of other so-called welfare benefits Sweden provides. They are also fed up with the migrants receiving benefits citizens do not receive.

Quick, count for the number of planes in the Swedish air force in 2019. Give me the names of the numerous aircraft carriers that Norway has on patrol. Give me the names of the nuclear submarines in the Finish navy.

Sorry for the second post but here is my 2020 slogan: MAKAGA!! Make And Keep America Great Again!

Good article. Not only are the populations homogeneous (for now) as #2 points out, but the populations are small, 6 million in Norway for example, but they also have the unmitigated gall to use their natural resources like oil for the benefit of their population. In prior administrations, we had to make an end run around government policies and create our oil boom on private lands. It's ridiculous we had to fight our own government to be prosperous.

There is a world of difference between Nordic Socialism and Socialism in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, and China. There is a world of difference between governing 10 million people vs governing 300 million people. When people talk Socialism, what do they actually mean? When people like Sanders and AOC say they want to follow Nordic Socialism, do they really mean it? These people lie all the time. Are they accurately portraying Nordic Socialism? Also, with the influx of all those migrants, Nordic Socialism will change over time and look more like Venezuela and the others.

We will NEVER be like European nations. We try to do "good things" with taxes, but they end badly, compared to how other nations manage things.

Basically, Sanders doesn't like the USA the way it is. It's not good enough for him. He THINKS other countries do very well. Because he thinks this, we should turn our phenomenally successful economy around to support what he thinks. After he loses the primary, he should retire to one of those countries and we never hear from BS again.

I was in Sweden 10 years ago (before their influx of Africans). There were signs in many places written in Swedish and English that said to remember there were individual costs for medical care. There were not many cars, people rode trams, walked or rode bicycles. Condos in Gotesburg were a million dollars. Prices in stores were almost double of what I paid in the US. Plus, there was a high VAT (tax) on everything. Not until the airport did I see a foreigner could apply to get the VAT returned showing all receipts but I had them in my suitcase, so lost that. We did see a number of young women with baby strollers as they received money to raise a child until toddler age when they went to daycare and the woman had to go back to work. Also only saw one homeless person but who could live there in the winter outside?

The Nordics are a nice but docile sort of people who willingly give fifty percent or more of their incomes to the ministry of redistribution so that all can survive on the work of a smaller percentage. They have allowed the imported muslims to take control of their streets and allow their women to be raped without much in the way of attempts to stop it. They gave up their firearms a long time ago. They are no longer the descendants of Vikings who would not be tolerant of those conditions of life. Bernie wants to be like them, fine. He can give away two of his three houses and about eighty percent of his income if he likes. I won't be going along with that.

I have many close friends in Denmark. None of them can afford a car, although all of them have excellent jobs. Consequently, they are very limited in where they go and what they do because they are entirely dependent on public transport or bikes. Here's how the the Danish socialists discourage the use of automobiles: A new BMW would cost ~ $75,000US... PLUS a 180% tax ON TOP OF THAT! YES! 180%! (There was some talk about reducing the tax to 100% but I'm not sure if that's happened or not) Danish citizens are constantly bombarded with anti-car rhetoric like this: "If you ride a bike in Copenhagen from Øster Allé to Nørreport during rush hour here's the societal benefit and loss: Bicycle: 63 cents net profit for society. (3.65 DKK) Car: $1.15 net loss to society. (6.59 DKK) Another way of calculating it is that every time someone rides a bike 1 km, society earns 23 cents. Drive a car 1 km and we pay out 91 cents." Feeling restricted and horrified by this? These are the dismal innards of socialism that Bernie Sanders and the like don't want you to see.

Thank you, Chuck. You've been around conservative panelists long enough now to begin to see the truth. Good article. And though he doesn't talk about the Brits, they tax the living daylights out of the middle class and the NHS is a mess.

I believe most if these countries have school vouchers also. In a lot of ways, the US is far more socialist.

Might I suggest you pull up stakes and move there and leave the rest of us alone. I don't want to pay a 70% tax rate so the government can take total control of my life. Except for the UK (66 million) and Holland (17 million) these other countries have a population of fewer than 10 million. Most are 5 million while the US has a population of 328 million. Big, big difference. They want your money, they want to control you. Limit your ability to travel (take your cars away), take away your guns so you cannot rebel, control the food chain (Bernie says he loves government bread lines), we have enough money but it is in the wrong hands. Your money does not belong to you. Put it all in a pot and redistribute it the way they think it should be. Nothing is free and their ideas will destroy our country. And the elite will never ever be subject to any of the insanity they impose. Pay attention America.

Having recently visited Scandinavia, I will say this. I was told that the average household pays between 50 and 60 percent of their income in taxes. I was also told how much trouble 20,000 African "refugees" have created there - I suggested any USA urban center would trade them straight up 20,000 urban thugs and experience a significant crime reduction. Also, the countries' homogeneous and small populations, as well as strong national identities and traditions, play a large part in any "success" socialism has in Scandinavia.

The Democrats are following their usual playbook of publicly offering free everything to unsuspecting rubes who think some rich people somewhere are going to pay for it all. Actually getting funding for these schemes after the election is another matter. Rich people are rich for a reason. They will give plenty of lip service about being 'delighted' to pay more taxes then they will promptly take their investments elsewhere. And yes, leave the middle class holding the bag.

On our trip to Scandinavia recently our guide was talking about the high taxes. He said that here in Denmark when you buy a new car you actually buy three cars and you get to keep one of them. I told him that in the United States of America you buy three cars and you get to keep all three of them. I like that system much much better...

Good idea Bernie, except none of these countries understand Socialism like you do. You are more of the Hammer & Sickel variety.

The dims know the Aftershock will strike soon so they want to try having full control of the federal government and their ideology in place and be totally in charge so THEY can choose what priorities will be funded. Unfortunately, these priorities have nothing to do with us and everything to do with their mom productive base.

They work in their own fashion because Uncle Sam has been footing the bill for their national defense. Amazing how much stupid they can buy when they have somebody footing their bills for them. Trump pulls us out of NATO and closes all the bases in EU, we will see how fast socialism collapses in thise nations.

These countries have mixed economies. As the article says, there is less regulation/taxes on businesses than on the middle class taxpayers. And since when is Medicare free? I dread the day I have to go on Medicare. My private insurance pays for many things with no deductible and there is a stop-loss after my out-of-pocket reaches a certain limit. And I have a flex plan that makes copays and deductibles pre-tax (same as a deduction off the top). Medicare is on the brink of insolvency just paying for senior care and Bernie wants to make it free for everyone? Impossible. Just a way to lure stupid voters.

There is no comparison between the Nordic countries and the USA. The Nordic countries are very small countries with generally homogeneous populations that are mostly all employed and pay high taxes to derive their social welfare benefits. It is not like that in the USA. There is absolutely no doubt that if the Democrat socialists take power in the USA that the economy will take a big nose dive once the Democrat socialists start instituting their high tax policies. The result of that will be a huge raise in the unemployment rate. On top of that the Democrat socialists through their “open borders” policies are trying to flood the USA illegally with poor, uneducated, and socialist minded people from all over the underdeveloped and undeveloped world. The vast majority of those people are unemployable because of a lack of education and job skills in the modern developed world, other than in unskilled low wage earning jobs, whereby they and their accompanying family members will have to be subsidized through taxpayer funded social welfare services for the rest of their lives. That population group is now increasing in size by about 100,000 a month with the Democrat socialists refusing to repeal a number of loopholes that they inserted in the asylum and immigration laws that greatly encourage that unlawful migration into the USA. The Democrat socialists are doing that for two reasons, the immediate reason is to ensure that as many illegal aliens as possible who are residing in immigrant and low income communities are counted in the 2020 census to assist the Democrat socialists in reapportioning as many new congressional districts into those areas that are dominated by the Democrats as possible, making it probable that those new congressional seats will be won by Democrat socialists with relatively low vote counts, as the aliens counted as living in those new districts are not qualified to vote, thus giving the Democrat socialist voters in those districts a higher percentage of congressional representation that the old established congressional districts consisting of US citizens, that loose their congressional representation by having to merge into another congressional district. Since there are now about 22 million illegal aliens now in the USA just by their numbers alone they affect the location of probably 10 or more congressional seats. The second reason is to grant that illegal alien population amnesty and eventual US voting rights, as the Democrat socialists realize that the vast majority of illegal aliens would be natural Democrat socialist voters, thus permanently changing the voter demographics and the politics of enough of the USA to keep the Democrat socialists in permanent political power. That’s why Joseph Biden then other day proclaimed that Congress should immediately grant millions of illegal aliens US citizenship, thus making them eligible to vote in the 2020 election. You can bet your boots that if the Democrat socialists even thought that more than a small percentage of the illegal alien population would ever vote for conservatives and Republicans that there already would be a 100 foot high borderline barrier (wall) all along the borderline with mass deportations ongoing. With all that going on the establishment Republicans just want an unlimited supply of cheap foreign labor to continue to get into the USA by hook or by crook!

This article is a great reminder that the Stockholm Syndrome was appropriately named. The Scandanavian people have been living for so long like frogs in hot water that they think it's normal. It's not! Freedom loving people anywhere would rebel in a minute's time if subjected to these conditions of life. In some ways it's even worse than Communism. Wake up, people, you are being used as cogs in a wheel and taught that you should enjoy it!

#14, I know Norway did not give up its firearms a long time ago. The country has a long hunting and firearms tradition, though it is controlled. One can even buy an semi-automatic military style rifle once all the paperwork is completed. The one stipulation is you must go to the range at least once a month to maintain proficiency. Heck, I'd love to say, "Sorry, honey, I've got to go to the range today; government requirement you know."

Yeah, Sweden is doing so well that Malmö is a war zone because of muslim barbarians. Or would be a war if the Swedes fought back... It used to be safe that you could walk all around alone in the middle of the night, and nothing would happen. The police didn't even carry guns, until Black deserters began to rob banks, starting in the early 1970s. Now, the muslims have claimed whole neighborhoods as their own, and begun to impose sharia laws on the rest of the population through terror and violence. If Bernie's policies most closely resemble what we see in Scandinavia, it would be a nightmare.

The Netherlands has a population of roughly 17 million people. The State of Illinois -- not the biggest state in the Union, mind you -- has a population of 12 million. However, The Netherlands has only about a quarter of the land mass of Illinois. Sweden has roughly 10 million people. My point? Administering effective government programs in relatively small countries would likely be much easier than do so in a country of 325 million people (i.e., the United States). That said, the State of Illinois -- which has been controlled by Democrats for decades -- is B R O K E -- BROKE, I tell you! More Democrat policies mean more broke states in this great land of ours. Sanders et al. are full of stool!

I thought they hated White, Nordic culture.