2020 race brings free college
back to the national stage
Associated Press,
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
6/16/2019 11:40:58 AM
After receding from the national stage, the free college movement is resurfacing as a central rallying point for Democrats as they set their sights on the White House. At least 18 of the party's 23 presidential contenders have come out in support of some version of free college . Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts promises free tuition at public colleges and universities. Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota says it should be limited to two years of community college. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York wants to provide free tuition in exchange for public service. The candidates are responding to what
Reply 1 - Posted by:
HotRod 6/16/2019 11:59:51 AM (No. 99324)
What the left really wants is free socialist/communist indoctrination. How better to expand the propaganda and conditioning than to let everyone-even unqualified kids-go to ''college'' and get exposed to the anti-American, anti-capitalist forces that have infiltrated our institutions?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
jalo1951 6/16/2019 12:08:44 PM (No. 99333)
Do you really want your income taxed at 70% so your neighbor's kid can get a "free" degree majoring in European lesbians of color poetry or some other totally useless degree? Time to revamp college so it is affordable. You want it you pay for it. NOTHING is FREE. I wish someone would bust this balloon. They want your money. They want as much a they can get their hands on. Remember "There is more than enough money in America. It's just in the wrong hands". You got it and they want it. We will lose big time if these yahoos get their mitts on the presidency.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
LoneVoice 6/16/2019 12:09:04 PM (No. 99335)
College no longer teaches any useful skills any way. Why shouldn't it be free?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Northcross 6/16/2019 12:09:48 PM (No. 99337)
I think it is just wonderful that all these leftist professors will now be donating their time rather than being paid, since college will be free. I'm sure they don't expect us taxpayers to foot the cost, do they?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
winnie1 6/16/2019 12:25:59 PM (No. 99356)
Free from whom? NOTHING IS FREE!
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ZeldaFitzg 6/16/2019 12:47:10 PM (No. 99371)
This is so asinine for a thousand reasons. Colleges would become holding tanks for ne'er do wells, which they almost are now. Back in the 70s, I was a graduate student teaching freshman level history. I cannot tell you the difference in the campus when the PELL grants came in. Halls during class had been quiet, but then loud groups walked through. It was impossible to go in the front door of the Student Union building without winding your way through a large group gathered exactly there. My department did not pressure us to pass them, and they failed our freshman classes right and left. So I can affirm that if education becomes free, standards will fall even lower than they have become. (From my own observations of college assignments today, I believe courses were much harder to pass in the 60s and before. In my freshman year at UTexas, they told us up front at orientation that they would be thinning the herd.)
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
droopydog 6/16/2019 12:48:08 PM (No. 99374)
If I had to do it again, I think I might steer clear of college.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
earlybird 6/16/2019 12:49:18 PM (No. 99376)
Presidential elections always bring out the Free Everything types...
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
aasilver 6/16/2019 1:12:28 PM (No. 99391)
Look at the difference in wages for Doctors in the USA and Doctors in England or Canada. The American make far more than their British counterparts.
If College is free in the USA Professors will be paid FAR less than they are now paid. Academia hasn't figured that out yet. They may be too dumb to figure it out.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
lakerman1 6/16/2019 1:26:33 PM (No. 99403)
This is a dreadfully complex subject that cannot be discussed fully in one article or one thread here.Suffice it to say that the concept of a community college is wonderful - I have always been a fan of CCs.
And I believe local school districts should run the CCs, as is done in Iowa.
Here is one of the major problems with CCs, though.
There is a tendency to grow beyond their mission. (all organizations first, want to survive, second, they want to grow. When Dr. Salk came up with the typing of polio, plus vaccine, the March of Dimes, AKA Infantile Paralysis Foundation - which funded Salk, I believe - didn't pat themselves on the back and close up shop. They instead changed their mission to birth defects.)
CCs were initially intended to be bare-bones operations, without dorms- local students only - no sports teams, limited course offerings for first and second years only. (what are known as Gen Ed requirements, English, Math, Social Studies and the like.
Now there are community colleges with dorms, sports arenas, active recruitment of out of state students,active recruitmant of foreign students, and all of the support services necessary. Costs rise astronomically, with commensurate tuition increases. Yet same CCs offer junior and senior level specialized courses - Iranian poetry, for example. (junior and senior level courses do not transfer to a 4 year college,
usually.)
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 6/16/2019 1:59:11 PM (No. 99434)
The problem with college is that unless you are on a STEM track program for actual
job training, it is nearly worthless and getting more and more expensive every year.
NO to government paid college.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
cartcart 6/16/2019 2:51:01 PM (No. 99462)
Get out of Yale free?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
anniebc 6/16/2019 3:52:52 PM (No. 99480)
College students voting in 2020 should be wary of free college after oblama put so many college students before them in debt to big government. He promised them he'd get their loans forgiven, so off to grad school they went. Oops!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Nimby 6/16/2019 9:35:15 PM (No. 99617)
Nothing is free in this world
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Sunhan65 6/17/2019 2:43:09 AM (No. 99706)
Then it would finally be worth what we pay for it.
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Anything that costs too much should just be 'free'. And any past debts are simply zeroed out. Who could oppose?