Sailors Created 'Rape List' Aboard
Navy's 2nd Sub to Integrate Women
Military.com,
by
Gina Harkins
Original Article
Posted By: Ray of Sunshine,
5/22/2019 6:17:28 PM
Navy leaders failed to address sailors' safety concerns after a sexually explicit list targeting female crewmembers surfaced aboard the service's second submarine to integrate women, resulting in the firing of a commanding officer and several other punishments.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Folsomguy 5/22/2019 6:23:50 PM (No. 82235)
What OP said!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
red1066 5/22/2019 6:27:36 PM (No. 82237)
This is a national security issue that needs to be eliminated. This puts everyone at risk. Stop the social engineering.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
bpl40 5/22/2019 6:28:22 PM (No. 82239)
My son was a submarine officer. When he first reported for duty as young ensign, they were given one phone call before the cruise began. He made it to his mother. My wife asked him about living quarters. He said 'not enough by not enough'. Space is at highest premium. There is little privacy, Even for officers. A submarine is NO place for a woman..
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 5/22/2019 6:53:03 PM (No. 82251)
"Rape list" is such a regular leftist fantasy. I call horse schift on this one.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 5/22/2019 7:04:47 PM (No. 82259)
Sheesh! Talk about bad salesmanship!!
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Indeed, who coined the term? Nothing on the list suggested non-consensual contact. At least women are still prohibited from serving on the attack boats, where any two large sailors literally have to rub crotches to get past each other in the passageways. It is for that reason that the Navy made the decision to exclude them.
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The article says the list "does not reference non-consensual acts" It's called a "rape list" because that's the hyperbolic, emotive, catchy term created by the shrieking feminst Left. It was not a rape list. It was a fantacy list.
It's all about the reaction. The fact there wasn't a rape at all, is immaterial at that point, and if you try to point out that salient fact, you're dismissed because clearly, you don't "get it". Obviously a male dinosaur.
Additionally, cutting out the Chief of the boat (COB) (I am a veteran sub sailor Master Chief) is ridiculously stupid. The COB effectively runs the crew, has his finger on the pulse of the crew, and must always be the one to go to to manage any problems with the crew.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
poliposter 5/22/2019 8:14:03 PM (No. 82270)
My daughter is headed to Quantico for OCS for the USMarines. I'm incredibly offended by remarks on this thread. Teach your sons to be decent human beings. Would they want to be assaulted? Maybe some of this is consensual but . . . . .
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/hidden-camera-found-women-s-bathroom-aboard-navy-ship-n996446
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
curious1 5/22/2019 8:14:27 PM (No. 82271)
Ever notice where socialists/commie are concerned they always ignore human nature; men/women, xx/xy, workers/non-workers, and so on... And then wonder why their 'great ideas' always take force to try to implement, then wind up collapsing. Too many socialists in our government and military.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Nevadadad46 5/22/2019 8:14:42 PM (No. 82272)
Gee. I guess putting females on board a nuclear submarine really added no problems at all to the mission capability of our three billion dollar a copy submarine service.. NOT!
Who could have predicted this? Just everyone with a brain, that's who!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Kate318 5/22/2019 8:57:28 PM (No. 82283)
Check your sanctimonious outrage, #8. I hear experienced military people give reasons why men and women should not serve in the military together, under certain conditions. There is nothing offensive in what any of them have said. In fact, the only offensive remark is the insinuation that these people are not teaching their sons to be decent human beings.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 5/22/2019 8:58:33 PM (No. 82284)
Women military should never be put with men in close quarters. Nature will take over and there will be ‘frigging in the rigging ‘ as the old sea shanty goes. They also do not belong in combat situations...period. Any thing else is degrading our military and a denigration of our National defense ability.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
poliposter 5/22/2019 9:09:50 PM (No. 82288)
I have to admit, I still find misogny appalling when it comes from a woman #11. Anyone defending this "list" and the people who wrote is part of the problem.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
MISteve 5/22/2019 9:31:39 PM (No. 82296)
This is unacceptable. Regardless of the policy to mix crew sexes, women do not deserve to be treated or thought of this way. Young virile men need to be taught they need to keep their hormones from running their brains and ruining their lives. It takes a conscious effort.
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... like my daddy used to do, #12. I was in naval air so I don't know too much about black shoes/web feet, but I had a buddy who was, and he talked about nubs having hot racks. If it is a sex issue, that is, all male crews and women want on, give them their own boomer.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Urgent Fury 5/22/2019 9:39:21 PM (No. 82299)
Not sure how my watch team would have reacted to something like this because in Reagan's Navy we never had to put up with stupid policies like allowing women aboard.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
gramma b 5/22/2019 10:31:50 PM (No. 82312)
#8, nobody was assaulted. This list was basically a juvenile list among some of the male personnel ranking women according to their desirability. It was apparently on a computer. No woman was forced to look at it. Talk about an overreaction. If any woman said the crude but silly list made her fear for her safety, she was being a drama queen. I suspect the women who were most angry were those who got the lowest ratings.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Gordon Freeman 5/22/2019 11:00:53 PM (No. 82317)
Beings how I was nuke on a fast attack many years ago. I think having females on boats is absolutely crazy. It's an extremely stressful life. The working conditions are terrible. By adding females the stress goes up exponentially. Not to mention the wives of the married sailors.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
HPmatt 5/22/2019 11:45:14 PM (No. 82320)
Didn't that guys soccer team get called out for a list of hot soccer players they wanted to....meet...
Did a search (didn't find the news article...was too full of paid ads for) and I see the following headlines from sports columns - Top 10 hottest Female Soccer Players in the world; Sports Hotties: 2019 with mentions of Alex Morgan in Sports Illustrated; 32 Hottest players....50 Sexiest Soccer players.....
What do all of these lists have in common? Peak of functionality - in all departments - for Cis-guys & Cis-girls?? Then you put a coed team into a stressful, hermetically sealed titanium sardine can living and working together for 4 months and see what happens??
This 'improvement' increases the lethality and readiness of our sailors to wreak havoc on our enemies? Much better 'cohesiveness' to give US crews the ultimate edge over Chinese and Russian all-male crews?
I think someone is not living in the real 'flesh and blood' world where hormones are needed to be in peak condition. I hated going to Philmont Scout ranch with a coed Exploerer troop - guys were drooling over whatever girls were in the troop, as opposed to doing crazy dares on rocky ridges, chasing bears attacking our food at night, competing on how fast/far you could hike, etc....that was just for 10 days in the beautiful NM mountains, let alone locked up in a submarine...
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
anniebc 5/23/2019 6:44:27 AM (No. 82393)
Do girls have to do everything boys do? Why can't we let the men have the submarines and combat! Good freakin' grief!
Three thumbs up for poster 11. I've seen so many marriages and families of military men boldly broken up by women serving alongside them--the men were not at fault too. Years ago, a fugly, oversized Navy female told my Marine husband she was going to take him from me. She didn't. She couldn't. So, save it; sinners come in both sexes.
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Very young men and women put together in a confined space for months at a time, away from their boyfriends, husbands, wives and girlfriends and before you know it, they're bumping uglies. It's about as natural as breathing air and yet the knuckelheads that put in place such a policy really believe that the people effectived by such policies will somehow put aside every natural instincts and follow such policies when in fact the very people that put the policies in effect would, they themselves, be unable to adhere to the same policy.