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´Separating babies from their mothers
is immoral!´: Christian leader SLAM
Jeff Sessions´ usage of the Bible to justify
policy tearing *

Daily Mail [UK], by Matthew Wright

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Posted By:Harlowe, 6/16/2018 12:12:37 PM

Christian leaders across the country have taken issue with Attorney General Jeff Session´s usage of the Bible as justification of his policy that is separating thousand of immigrant families at the border. Sessions cited Romans 13 to attempt to justify how separating families was ordained by God because ´orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.´ For religious leaders who still weren´t pleased with his usage of scripture, he offered them to ´speak up strongly to urge anyone who would come here to apply lawfully, to wait their turn and not violate the law.´

* immigrant families apart

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Harlowe, 6/16/2018 12:13:27 PM     (No. 11665754)

These religious figures are the ones who have distorted AG Session’s usage of Romans 13 either out of obliviousness or purpose. AG Sessions cited verses from Romans 13 to emphasize that God instituted civil government for the purpose of protecting His children while on earth—through lawful governance. That is what AG Sessions was pointing out. Follow the law—those who disobeyed the immigration laws of this country broke the law and violated not only this government’s laws, but violated God’s command to obey civil law. The only exception to that obedience is when civil law violates God’s law. In this instance, civil law is the focus and the only focus.

To circumvent AG Session’s purpose in citing those verses, these critics are focusing on the separation of children from parents. This country does not lack compassion—the children being separated from law-breaking parents are being taken away so they can be sheltered from the environs of jail/prison until their parents are processed through legal procedures. They are being clothed, sheltered, fed, educated, exercised, and entertained. If there is any blame, blame the parents and/or the teens that violated civil law to enter this country illegally.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Wetenschapper, 6/16/2018 12:22:11 PM     (No. 11665763)

People who break the law are separated from their children and families all the time. Whether you´re a U.S. citizen or not, you will be sent to prison for a committing crime; your kids don´t go with you. Lawbreakers who are also parents should consider this before flouting U.S. laws.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: arcady, 6/16/2018 12:25:25 PM     (No. 11665767)

These families are the ones "tearing" themselves apart by their actions. And, I guarantee you, it´s at the coaching of Leftist/Dem, "community organizer", Soros backed types.
You want to end this? Stop incentivising it.
Say No to Obama´s illegal DACA. No to chain migration. No to illegal immigration. No to any GOP-e lead immigration ´fix´. Build the wall and tax those who employ illegals, or the employment agencies that supply illegals. Finally, build the wall and MAGA!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 6/16/2018 12:26:05 PM     (No. 11665768)

So is separating mothers from their babies also immoral? Women sometimes go to jail and when they do their "babies" don´t go with them. Using this rationale mothers could commit any crimes they want and not be jailed because their "babies" couldn´t be kept in cages (barred cells).

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 6/16/2018 12:27:13 PM     (No. 11665770)

Then send the children to prison with their parents or send them all back to where they came from immediately. If these parents dare to bring their kids with them to enter the US, then there needs to be the incentive for them to stop. Yes, it sounds harsh but this happens all the time with illegal immigrants. All Foster children are separated from their parents.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: M-79, 6/16/2018 12:29:41 PM     (No. 11665778)

Separating mothers from their babies sounds a lot like abortion. Which is a sacrament to the Left.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Quigley, 6/16/2018 12:31:29 PM     (No. 11665779)

With so many immoralities to choose from, they of course choose the one that damages American culture the most.

It is even more immoral for the leaders of the countries these mothers come from to establish conditions that drive these mothers to flee.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dwa, 6/16/2018 12:38:10 PM     (No. 11665783)

Why is it the fault of the Trump Administration and INS when it is the mothers and fathers that try to enter this country illegally that are putting their children in that position in the first place. As usual, the Left is putting the blame where it does not belong.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: columba, 6/16/2018 12:39:16 PM     (No. 11665786)

There is only one Christian leader, and He has said it all. I did not hear from Him on this issue.

Try again.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mean Gene, 6/16/2018 12:39:27 PM     (No. 11665787)

Maybe an expedited deportation of all those here illegally who have children with them is an answer.
Then mom or dad can jump thru the hoops like anyone else who wants to be here....legally.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: SALady, 6/16/2018 12:44:12 PM     (No. 11665792)

As another poster said on another thread so wisely put it, if I took my young children out in the desert without proper food and water, when the authorities caught me, Child Protective Services would yank my kids away from me faster than anything!!!!!!!

How is this any different -- other than these people are also breaking our immigration laws!!!!!

Simple solution: If you don´t want to be separated from your children, do NOT sneak them in to this country ILLEGALLY!!!!!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: judy, 6/16/2018 12:51:04 PM     (No. 11665799)

The Bible says obey the law of the land. I guess that´s just for republicans & legal residents, not illegals. It didn´t appear to bother the Judge in DC yesterday he separated Manifold from his children this weekend on Fathers Day for a fake investigation. Trump can handle this today by implementing a big for fine to employers for hiring illegals. Problem solved.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: judy, 6/16/2018 12:53:21 PM     (No. 11665802)

What´s the democrats going to do about the children who´s legal parents are in prison?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 6/16/2018 12:53:33 PM     (No. 11665803)

OK let their families stay at the Parsonages with YOUR families.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: JediJerry, 6/16/2018 12:54:00 PM     (No. 11665804)

The Democrats should have thought if this when they passed the immigration law that requires children being separated from parents trying to get in the country illegally. I say the moral issue is on the parents for putting their little ninos at risk in the first place.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Hotrod, 6/16/2018 1:01:34 PM     (No. 11665815)

If momma doesn´t want to be separated from her baby, don´t cross into the U.S. illegally! Stay in Mexico, where you have escaped your country and seek asylum there!

Besides, when the word gets out, maybe this will discourage illegals from bringing babies (and themselves) here.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: stencil, 6/16/2018 1:09:39 PM     (No. 11665824)

I´m one of the handful of posters here who has regularly defended AG Sessions regarding his perceived lack of action on the Russia/Mueller front. This, however was an unforced error and one that a seasoned debater should not have made. Bringing scripture into a policy debate only opens the door to it´s use against your position.
Dumb move, Jeff.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MainelySane, 6/16/2018 1:41:16 PM     (No. 11665847)

dragging babies across desert sands is immoral.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Penney, 6/16/2018 1:41:38 PM     (No. 11665848)

American mothers & dads who break the law and end up in jail certainly cannot keep their children in there with them! Ergo, why should ILLEGAL aliens be allowed to keep their babies when they break the law and end up incarcerated? Sneaking into the country illegally, thus avoiding existing Immigration Law, is a crime, ya know! ...Remember the slogan,´´Crime does not pay?!´´

The irresponsible practice of that, ´anchor baby,´ MAGNET should be ended asap!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: M2, 6/16/2018 1:58:22 PM     (No. 11665856)

Christians do not have “religious leaders.” We do not have spokespeople for our faith, except perhaps for the pope for Catholics. But even that is up for grabs given this particular pope. There are some extremely liberal priests and pastors and many of us Christians have no connection to them or their ideas whatsoever.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: JediJerry, 6/16/2018 2:02:34 PM     (No. 11665861)

I wonder what happens to children when mommy and daddy get busted for slinging dope and robbery or any other crime that gets them thrown in jail. Does child protective services show up and take them in or do black booted agents show up and throw them into cages in some kind of kiddie koncentration kamp?

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Reply 22 - Posted by: franq, 6/16/2018 2:11:42 PM     (No. 11665867)

Arguing with a liberal is like trying to teach a pig to sing.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: John c, 6/16/2018 2:20:34 PM     (No. 11665873)

Breitbart has pictures of their prisons on Their website. with quilts and computers.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: earlybird, 6/16/2018 2:39:28 PM     (No. 11665883)

A Breitbart article posted earlier today tells us, in text and photographs, that the children separated from those purporting to be their parents are being well taken care of. And the photo of the classroom setting at the facility featured showed young men of at least high school age, with one younger boy. No girls.

It must be kept in mind that these people came as part of a huge caravan, promoted by American-based activists who have been promoting illegal entry for some time now, and what is happening is the alternative to their being flatly turned back at the border.

The lib bleeding hearts are literally bleeding this for all its worth. They don’t care if they are wrong. What they are spreading is anti-Trump administration propaganda.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: judy, 6/16/2018 2:55:31 PM     (No. 11665894)

What about the children of legal military members?They are separated from their children for months.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: franq, 6/16/2018 3:07:33 PM     (No. 11665901)

Religious leaders of his day said Jesus had a demon. So I don´t put much stock in the opinions of religious leaders.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/16/2018 9:04:45 PM     (No. 11666077)

All those illegal aliens parents who brought their foreign born children across the borderline illegally knew exactly what was going to happen with them and their children once they were apprehended illegally crossing the US border into the USA. You had better believe that they were advised of those facts by the supporters of mass uncontrolled illegal immigration and the international people smugglers who encouraged those illegal aliens to cross the borderline illegally and file bogus applications for asylum to further tie up the immigration courts that now have a backlog of over 300,000 such asylum cases most of them fraudulent.

Those illegal aliens also know that because of the deliberate loopholes that have been placed in the immigration laws by Democrats hungry for foreign born voters and Republicans hurgry for cheap labor, that within a short time after arriving at the HHS children´s shelters that HHS will be required to release those children to mostly illegal alien relatives already in the USA, who are sojourning all over the USA, who will enroll the children in USA public schools, get welfare and healthcare benefits for the children, and will hide the children out hoping for some future “Dreamer” or DACA based amnesty that will legalize the children along with their illegal alien parents who caused this situation in the first place.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Harlowe, 6/17/2018 1:54:55 AM     (No. 11666207)

#17- Respectfully disagree that it was a “dumb move” for AG Sessions to cite scripture. If people have no regard for civil law, it is appropriate to remind them they will be held accountable to a Higher Authority. People of faith should not be silenced by liberals who go into apoplectic shock whenever religion or scripture become part of the political narrative. They, too, need to be reminded there is a Higher Authority: “For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” (Mark 8:38)

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 6/17/2018 6:02:48 AM     (No. 11666264)

There is only one fair choice here: Load em up and move em out. How many buses will it take?
The gall of all of them to impose the bills for every illegal alien on taxpayers.

How many American children are homeless or living in shelters and would love the perks these kids are getting?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: winnie1, 6/17/2018 9:05:29 AM     (No. 11666381)

Those pictures that MSNBC & CNN are showing were on Obama´s watch.

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A 13-year-old girl in Alabama was beheaded because she saw her Sinaloa Cartel-associated granny stabbed to death by drug traffickers, authorities have said. Mariah Lopez, 13, and her grandmother Oralia Mendoza, 49, were killed on June 4 in Moon Cemetery outside of Huntsville, Alabama, prosecutors revealed in court on Thursday. The new details in the case came in a hearing for 26-year-old Yoni Aguilar, who along with 34-year-old Israel Palomino is charged with two counts each of capital murder in the slayings. At the hearing, investigators testified that the grandmother Mendoza had ties to the Sinaloa Cartel,

Family ties! Obama arrives in his father´s
native Kenya for low-key trip to launch
sports center founded by his half-sister

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Daily Mail [UK] and Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 7/15/2018 11:49:06 PM     Post Reply
Former US president Barack Obama arrived in Kenya on Sunday, the country of his father´s birth, his first visit to this East African country since leaving office. Obama is in Kenya to help launch the sports and training center founded by his half-sister, Auma Obama, through her foundation Sauti Kuu. In Nairobi, Barack met President Uhuru Kenyatta at the official residence, according to Kenyatta´s Twitter account. (Snip) Barack´s visit to Kenya is low key, unlike his previous visits where he electrified thousands of Kenyans who lined the streets to see him when he was a senator in 2006 and then as president

SF Mayor Says Her City is Drowning in Poop:
There´s More Feces than I´ve Ever Seen´

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Daily Caller, by Andrew Kerr    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 7/16/2018 4:47:28 AM     Post Reply
San Francisco Mayor London Breed said the streets of her city are flooded with the excrement of the homeless in an interview Friday. Breed, a Democrat who was inaugurated as San Francisco’s mayor Wednesday, urged homeless advocacy groups that receive money from the city to teach homeless people to “clean up after themselves.” “There is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here,” Breed told KNTV. “That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans.” The streets of San Francisco are littered with a “dangerous

Just Sitting Down With Trump,
Putin Comes Out Ahead

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New York Times, by Andrew Higgins, Neil MacFarquhar    Original Article
Posted By: delta dave- 7/15/2018 2:03:57 PM     Post Reply
Moscow - When President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia sits down with President Trump in Helsinki, Finland, on Monday for a meeting he has long wanted, he will already have accomplished virtually everything he could reasonably hope for. All he really needs to make his meeting with Mr. Trump a success is for it to take place without any major friction — providing a symbolic end to Western efforts to isolate Russia over its actions against Ukraine in 2014, its meddling in the United States election in 2016 and other examples of what the United States Treasury Department has described as Russia’s “malign activity” around the

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