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´Separating babies from their mothers is
immoral´: Catholic leaders denounce Trump´s
zero-tolerance border protection policy

Daily Mail [UK], by Minyvonne Burke

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Posted By:Ribicon, 6/14/2018 11:31:02 AM

Leaders of the Catholic church are criticizing the Trump administration over its border protection policy, saying that separating mothers who illegally come into the US from their children is ´immoral´. Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, called out president Donald Trump and his ´zero-tolerance´ policy on Wednesday during the the group´s spring conference. (Snip) DiNardo also slammed the administration´s move to overturn asylum protection for victims of domestic violence. He said the policy ´elicits deep concern because it potentially strips asylum from many women

And yet, it´s perfectly moral for women to cross our borders illegally, and consume the resources of the US taxpayers and undercut domestic labor market? It´s perfectly moral for a church to push for refugee resettlement of incompatible people because they collect a lot of taxpayer money for doing so?


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ribicon, 6/14/2018 11:34:48 AM     (No. 11663507)

Notice also that the illegal aliens are overwhelmingly Catholic, which would mean more seats in the pews at a time when the church is losing domestic members (perhaps because of the loudly Marxist bent). And because the newcomers are overwhelmingly poor, for every American who leaves the church, how many more Mexicans would be needed to replace their contributions in the collection plate? No doubt these calculations have been made.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Pros7767, 6/14/2018 11:40:48 AM     (No. 11663514)

And when the Marxists and Islamists take over the country, the priests, bishops and cardinals will be the first to be locked up or beheaded.

Very forward thinking of them...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LadyHen, 6/14/2018 11:41:17 AM     (No. 11663517)

We are not the world´s fattened calf you pack of pontificating princes of the church. The Catholic Church would do better to divest itself of it vast treasures and give them to the poor INSTEAD of expecting the US taxpayer who is overburdened beyond most´s means to foot the bill for everyone and everything third world criminals and freeloaders desire.

Plus, if we are NOT going to get rid of the antiquated birthright citizenship and have a citizenship policy like the Eastern hemisphere, then the babies are citizens and the mothers are not. The babies will find loving families here just waiting for a beautiful child to call their own. If they truly want a better life for the children, what better than a home with English speaking, American parents who can truly provide for a child´s needs. I guarantee THIS policy change will dissuade pregnant freeloaders from crossing the boarder.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: HalfNorsk, 6/14/2018 11:42:46 AM     (No. 11663518)

Abortion is separating a baby from his/her mother.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 6/14/2018 11:43:23 AM     (No. 11663520)

I agree. Deport them all.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mildred, 6/14/2018 11:43:44 AM     (No. 11663521)

No one is forcing these mothers to come to the U.S. They come here to collect the freebies. Don´t come and you won´t be separated from your ´babies´. They know they will be separated so it is their choice and their responsibility.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: EAGLE4EVER, 6/14/2018 11:55:57 AM     (No. 11663533)

Why doesn´t the church work on there zero tolerance for priests abusing children.Ye he be without sin may cast the first stone. MAGA

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Maggie2u, 6/14/2018 11:57:44 AM     (No. 11663535)

He´s right. But put these mothers and babies immediately on a plane and send them back to the country of origin.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 6/14/2018 11:58:22 AM     (No. 11663536)

I will listen to the Catholic leadership again when they denounce their well known Catholic members for their support of abortion. I am thinking Pelosi and John Kerry for two.

Those two would be booted and denounced if the Vatican was actually interested in human life.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Pilot222, 6/14/2018 12:02:32 PM     (No. 11663543)

This is a church that has deviated so far from Christ’s teaching it is hard to believe anything coming from it. The first thing to get this church in order would be to expel the moron communist pope.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 6/14/2018 12:03:47 PM     (No. 11663545)

When Elian Gonzalez was stolen from his mother by jackboot FBI agents and sent back to Cuba, where was the Catholic Church then?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: GO3, 6/14/2018 12:13:18 PM     (No. 11663555)

Article leaves out a few things like this is the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, not the "leaders of the Catholic Church" per se. Anyway, going back several decades, the Conference was leading the pack in unilateral nuclear disarmament and the bishops views ultimately didn´t matter a whit when we fielded Pershing II, A/GLCM, etc. and it won´t matter now when it comes to illegal immigration. They´ve had their say, so just ignore them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bubby, 6/14/2018 12:14:49 PM     (No. 11663557)

So using that logic any woman with a baby who commits a felony can´t be sent to prison so as to not "separate" her from her baby? Parents who commit crimes resulting in jail time are separated from their children, it happens everyday but I guess shouldn´t according to "Leaders of the Catholic church"? Where was this criticism of obama for doing the same thing?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Davids918, 6/14/2018 12:16:54 PM     (No. 11663559)

They don´t seem to be interested in a comprehensive immigration policy to make the process LEGAL and less onerous on those who are crossing rivers, walking thru deserts, or paying coyotes thousands of dollars to get into the United States.

That they are concentrating on the separation issue is also a nod to the Democrats who support and defend abortion, which is supposed to be a big issue for the Catholic Church.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Quigley, 6/14/2018 12:20:52 PM     (No. 11663564)

Not under the circumstances. But molesting children is, you perverts masquerading as religious people.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: House2010, 6/14/2018 12:38:28 PM     (No. 11663579)

Have not been to Mass in over 12 months. Pope and church are tough to take anymore.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Harlowe, 6/14/2018 12:39:23 PM     (No. 11663581)

It is inappropriate to blame the Trump administration for the current immigration crisis. The reality of this most unfortunate problem is the result of people violating this country’s immigration laws by choosing to enter illegally instead of going through proper government channels. They violated not only this country’s laws, but also God’s laws as written in Romans13:1-2 - “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.”

FTA: “Other bishops at the conference called for ´canonical penalties´ for thoseCatholics who help Trump carry out the new rules.” This “precautionary” advice toCatholics is actually a double-edged sword; Catholics must personally decide whether they will abide by man’s laws or God’s laws as defined inRomans13:1-7. God expects man to obey civil government except when civil government commands citizens to sin. Catholics would have to decide between God’s directives to obey civil law, versus canonical penalties for that obedience. Peter and the apostles encountered somewhat of a similar situation wherein Peter answered, “We must obey God rather than men.”(Acts5:29)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: HistoryBuff, 6/14/2018 1:07:32 PM     (No. 11663618)

I was in Rome the week before last. There is a wall around the Vatican. There are armed Swiss guards.

And when the "migrants" were in St. Peter´s Square selling selfie sticks, the security escorted them out.

The church spent years separating mothers from their children if they were born out of wedlock.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/14/2018 1:14:02 PM     (No. 11663634)

Children are separated from their mothers everyday all over the developed world anytime the mothers are detained as criminal defendants. If that were not so, all the woman’s jails and prisons would turn into child care centers, kindergartens and single mother homes.

The Catholic Church leaders are all for “open borders” whereby anyone in undeveloped countries could simply migrate to the USA or any other developed country so that they could have the opportunity to make a “better life” for themselves and their progeny. Such an ill thought out policy by the Catholic Church leadership is not in keeping with longstanding US immigration law, and the immigration laws of other developed countries, essentially indicating that it is “immoral” for nation states to defend their borders against unlawful entry by aliens, and serves to undermine those laws by encouraging more mass uncontrolled illegal immigration from undeveloped countries into developed countries.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: cartcart, 6/14/2018 1:15:43 PM     (No. 11663636)

BTW, separating a baby from a mother in an abortion clinic is also immoral.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: stablemoney, 6/14/2018 1:15:49 PM     (No. 11663637)

The Catholic leader are liars. The Trump administration does not separate children from their parents, only the parents can do that. It is very disingenuous for Catholic leader to perpetrate this fraud. Lying is noticed, and it will be remembered.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 6/14/2018 1:32:18 PM     (No. 11663661)

So if a mother chooses to steal a car is the Catholic church down at the prison marching for her release, so she can be with her baby?
Why doesn´t the church use their pulpit to make a statement about parents choosing not to commit an illegal act that would leave the state or the church in charge of raising their child.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: AltaD, 6/14/2018 1:42:35 PM     (No. 11663676)

What other policies does the Catholic church propose we institute? Do they have an opinion on pregnant women (legal citizens) who commit crimes? Does church propose the newborns stay in prison with the convict rather than separate mother and child or do these women get a free pass?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hotrod, 6/14/2018 1:56:32 PM     (No. 11663690)

Democrat to illegal immigrant mother: ´´You want to keep your baby? You can keep your baby. C´mon over!´´

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/14/2018 2:44:03 PM     (No. 11663726)

You got to remember that the top leaders of the Roman Catholic Church are almost all aliens or people of foreign origin who do not hold their primary allegiance to the USA.

Beyond that a very high percentage of illegal aliens are either Catholics or claim to be Catholics.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: schnapps, 6/14/2018 2:45:17 PM     (No. 11663729)

If the "baby" has MS-13 tattoos is it still immoral to separate them?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: kono, 6/14/2018 2:48:12 PM     (No. 11663730)

Good point, #7. Try looking at the Dallas Charter. Even one credible accusation is enough to take a priest out of public ministry, no conviction necessary, and no Due Process protections.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: thethirdruffian, 6/14/2018 3:43:11 PM     (No. 11663784)

Pretty rich coming from an organization that would baptize Jewish children and take them away from their "unfit" Jewish parents.

Google "Edgardo Mortara"

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Reply 29 - Posted by: paral04, 6/14/2018 4:47:41 PM     (No. 11663824)

So it is OK to break our immigration laws with no consequences? Maybe the thought that her children will be taken from her will be a deterrent from sneaking in here.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: dvc, 6/14/2018 4:49:26 PM     (No. 11663825)

If you don´t like our rules, then stay out of our country.

Just that simple.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: sw penn, 6/14/2018 5:00:33 PM     (No. 11663836)

´“The church must be reminded that it is not the master or the servant of the state, but rather the conscience of the state. It must be the guide and the critic of the state, and never its tool. If the church does not recapture its prophetic zeal, it will become an irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority.” (A Knock at Midnight, June 11, 1967)´

Liberation Theologists
Mouthing empty words
In empty churches.
Not Master of the State
Not Servant of the State
Not Conscience of the state
Not even "irrelevant social club without moral or spiritual authority"
Just progressed into sad irrelevance.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: JediJerry, 6/14/2018 5:04:13 PM     (No. 11663839)

What’s immoral is for mothers to put their children at risk of this consequence.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Aubreyesque, 6/14/2018 6:31:45 PM     (No. 11663924)

And yet Catholic Charities has ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM separating babies from their families in the name of adoption.

Im glad I left. I joined a church that is far more Catholic than most Vatican II RCCers. Sorry. But I learned far more about the history of the Church from my current denomination than I EVER did from the HIppie Dippie Happy Clappy Lets All Feel Good and pretend we need to "modernize" so we can get butts in the seat. And I despise the hypocrisy they are displaying in their Social Justice Doctrine while they traffic children to strangers.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: belwhatter, 6/14/2018 6:34:28 PM     (No. 11663928)

Apparently good old political opportunist WA state Attorney General Bob Ferguson, best known for throwing a wrench into the President´s immigration policy, is now virtue signalling with a petition to stop children from being separated from their illegal immigrant mothers. The man is pro abortion.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 6/14/2018 9:13:34 PM     (No. 11664104)

Rescind the Church´s tax-free status, seize the property of any church harboring illegal aliens, use the proceeds to deport illegals.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Penney, 6/14/2018 11:42:07 PM     (No. 11664225)

ILLEGAL aliens would not be in this situation of opposition to the EXISTING Immigration Law if they had not been enabled, (-sometimes enticed), by some U.S. greedy large company employers, do-gooders, human traffickers and unethical politicians, who each also chose to simply ignore America´s LEGISLATED & EXISTING Immigration Law. ...Sneaking across our country´s sovereign borders is ILLEGAL! This is not a difficult concept for law abiding citizens.

America has ALWAYS been a known as a generous & benevolent beacon for each individual´s Rights & liberty on this planet. Thus many have always desired to live in such a country in personal freedom & equal respect for others. The Golden Rule remains in most Americans hearts.

...Every individual who immigrates to America LEGALLY to become a citizen, swears an oath to the USA &, ´´we the people,´´ and the Constitutional principles which make each individual´s freedom here possible. ILLEGALS in this country AND their LAWLESS enablers EACH demonstrate that they do not respect America´s Rule of Law at all.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: NotaBene, 6/15/2018 3:03:55 AM     (No. 11664287)

As our President Trump,explained the next leveled this battle will be Anchor Baby Citizenship, which was never tested in the courts. It has no controlling legal authority, as Gore used to say.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Milwaukeeroad, 6/15/2018 8:25:31 AM     (No. 11664430)

Hey pope, how about you offer and arrange to take them all in at the Vatican? After all, you have the room and the money?

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Reply 39 - Posted by: Milwaukeeroad, 6/15/2018 8:29:46 AM     (No. 11664434)

Hey DiNardo, you whitened sepulchre, why don´t you offer to adopt several hundred of these kiddies yourself? Go ahead, set the example, you hypocrite.

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Hah! Hacker Changes Menu of Little Liberal
‘Red Hen’ Restaurant that Tossed Out
Sarah Sanders and Her Children…

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Gateway Pundit, by Jim Hoft    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/23/2018 2:21:41 PM     Post Reply
White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her family were kicked out of a rural Virginia restaurant Friday night. Sanders and her family were booted out of the little liberal Red Hen Restaurant in Lexington, Virginia because they are Trump supporters. Sarah Sanders tweeted about the intolerant establishment. (Tweet) Liberal activist Brennan Gilmore also tweeted on the intolerance. (Tweet) Former Governor Mike Huckabee tweeted out that “bigotry was on the menu” at the little liberal Red Hen. (Tweet) That’s not all that’s on the restaurant menu. A hacker changed the menu to include erectile disfuntion.

Supreme Court Opens The
Door To Internet Taxes — What
Comes Next Could Be A Lot Worse

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: RockyTCB- 6/22/2018 7:06:33 AM     Post Reply
Taxes: Whatever you think about the issue of taxing internet sales, the simple fact is that the Supreme Court has just guaranteed that people across the country will now be paying more in state taxes. It´s hard for us to see how this is good news. In its 5-4 decision on South Dakota v. Wayfair, the court overturned two previous rulings that prevented states from taxing sales of out-of-state companies. That meant a catalog company based in Maine didn´t have to navigate 45 state sales-tax laws to figure out how much each customer owed, and then remit that money to the

So IRS Tea Party persecutor Lois Lerner
had help all along: John McCain

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American Thinker, by Monica Showalter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 6/22/2018 9:06:40 AM     Post Reply
How´s this for sneaky? Sen. John McCain, not too long after seeking conservative and Republican votes in his failed 2008 bid for the presidency, went right after those same conservative voters without telling them, by egging on the IRS to ruin them. It´s the sort of political back-stabbing that defies belief, taking an active role in destroying the Tea Party, which was an authentic grassroots movement of local groups calling for smaller government. But sure enough, Judicial Watch has found McCain´s central role right there in the documents: Judicial Watch today released newly obtained internal IRS documents, including material revealing that Sen.

Roseanne spinoff is Confirmed: John Goodman,
Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf will
return to ABC as The Conners with no
nvolvement from disgraced Roseanne Barr

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Daily Mail (UK), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/22/2018 12:59:49 PM     Post Reply
ABC has confirmed that it has greenlit a Roseanne spinoff for the fall season without series creator and star Roseanne Barr. The network had canceled the rebooted sitcom over a racist tweet by Barr but will go ahead with a new show after she agreed to forgo any creative or financial participation in it. John Goodman, Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf will reprise their roles in the new show that has the working title The Conners. (Video/Photo) Other Roseanne co-stars including Alecia Goranson and Michael Fishman will also appear in the spinoff. In a statement issued by the show´s producer,

´I am not a unicorn,´ Michelle
Obama tells library convention

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Times-Picayune [New Orleans, LA], by Doug MacCash    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 6/22/2018 11:49:17 PM     Post Reply
"I am not a unicorn," said Michelle Obama. "There are millions of kids like me out there." Mrs. Obama was discussing her upcoming memoir "Becoming," before a crowd of thousands at the American Library Association conference in New Orleans Friday (June 22). True, she may have been the first African-American first lady, but Obama´s ascent from a working class background to a professional career in Chicago and eventually the White House is a path that any American should be able to aspire to, she said. Unfortunately, "in this country we´ve gotten to a point where we kind of think there are only

Canadian TV writer threatens
Donald Trump Jr.´s 4-year-old
daughter: ´We´re coming for Chloe´

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Washington Times, by Jessica Chasmar    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 6/22/2018 10:52:00 AM     Post Reply
A Canadian television comedy writer was forced to apologize this week after he appeared to threaten Donald Trump Jr.’s 4-year-old daughter on Twitter. “Don’t worry, we’re coming for Chloe, too,” Pat Dussault tweeted Wednesday morning to the president’s eldest son. The tweet was deleted, but not before actor James Woods snapped a screenshot and notified the Secret Service. Mr. Trump Jr. retweeted both of Mr. James’ messages condemning Mr. Dussault. (Tweets) Mr. Dussault later posted an apology to Twitter, saying he let his emotions concerning President Trump’s zero tolerance immigration policy get the better of him. “I sincerely apologize to Donald Trump Jr.

‘It’s A Human Right’:
Mexican Presidential Candidate
On Mass Exodus To America

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Daily Caller, by Dominic Mancini    Original Article
Posted By: Whamdbambam- 6/22/2018 4:08:26 PM     Post Reply
Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) called for mass immigration to the United States during a speech Thursday, declaring it a “human right” for all North Americans. “And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.” He then declared it as “a human right we will defend,”

Time apologizes for cover story about migrant
girl who they said was taken ´screaming´
from her mother by US Border Patrol agents,
after it emerged the pair were Never separated

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Daily Mail (UK), by Jennifer Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/23/2018 10:16:07 AM     Post Reply
Time magazine has issued a correction to a controversial cover story about a Honduran migrant girl who they said was taken from her mother by US border patrol agents after it was revealed that the pair were never separated at all. Three-year-old Yanela Denise became the unintentional face of the now defunct family separation crisis after photographer John Moore captured her agonized face screaming as her mother was questioned by agents on June 12. After the picture was taken, the pair were taken together to a family detention center. Yanela´s father has since told DailyMail.com that they are ´safe´. As

Irish PM Meets Hillary Clinton, Insists Europe
Needs More Migrants to ‘Enrich Societies’

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Breitbart London, by Virginia Hale    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/23/2018 2:33:45 PM     Post Reply
Europe needs more mass migration from the Global South because it “enriches our cultures and societies”, according to Leo Varadkar, who announced he will import more asylum seekers to Ireland after meeting Hillary Clinton. Speaking days after a meeting with senior EU figures in Dublin, the globalist taoiseach (prime minister) committed to resettling a greater number of illegal immigrants stuck in Greece and Italy in Ireland than the batch of 4,000 already agreed. According to the Irish Independent, he said the gesture is about “solidarity and burden-sharing”, and as a way of repaying the support the European

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