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For all their risks, opioids had no pain-relieving
advantage in a yearlong clinical trial

Los Angeles Times, by Karen Kaplan

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Posted By:MissMolly, 3/7/2018 5:01:11 AM

For years, doctors turned to opioid painkillers as a first-line treatment for chronic back pain and aches in the joints. Even as the dangers of addiction and overdoses became more clear, the drugs´ pain-relieving benefits were still thought to justify their risks. Now researchers have hard data that challenges this view. In the first randomized clinical trial to make a head-to-head comparison between opioids and other kinds of pain medications, patients who took opioids fared no better over the long term than patients who used safer alternatives. "There was no significant difference in pain-related function between the 2 groups over

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: lakerman1, 3/7/2018 5:48:17 AM     (No. 11564497)

The writers chose to collapse two sets of data into one sentence.
First, 115 deaths per day is almost completely
caused by junkies injecting heroin boosted with fentanyl.
Second, we don´t know what a 4 fold increase in hydrocodone means, since the writers cleverly failed to include the numbers.
(If one person died from an rx drug overdose, and next year, 4 people die from ex overdose, that is a fourfold increase.e.
The article is fundamentally dishonest. But, hey! Everyone is writing dishonest articles about opiods.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: gijohn, 3/7/2018 5:57:42 AM     (No. 11564500)

I didn´t see what the trial was using as opioid med. Kind of dishonest if they were prescribing hydrocodone with acetaminophen. I was given acetaminophen after bypass surgery one time and it worked well. I think it was when they were still getting my BP under control. The trouble with those meds is of course the effect on the liver.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: paperpuncher, 3/7/2018 6:49:48 AM     (No. 11564530)

I´m sorry but, there is a significant difference between surgical pain and "back and joint pain". After major back surgery it is not jut take two Tylenol and call me in the morning.

I certainly can´t see a medic giving Tylenol rather than morphine to a wounded soldier in the field.

The problem with the addictions is the meds are used too often and prescribed to too long a period of time for relatively minor pain.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Udanja99, 3/7/2018 6:55:49 AM     (No. 11564533)

Acetaminophen is just Tylenol. Hydorcodone is the opioid and, according to my orthopedic surgeon, contains synthetic codein.

I beg to differ on the advantages. If you’ve ever had bone surgery or an abcessed tooth in need of a root canal, you know that opioids are the only thing that really stops the pain. I have had numerous surgeries and there have been moments when I thanked God for oxycodone.

The key is to use them as prescribed and to stop using them as soon as possible. I do find that doctors tend to prescribe more pills than you need. I was once given 30 oxycodone for an abcessed tooth when I had a root canal scheduled 2 days later. Eight pills would have been enough.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Truthfetish, 3/7/2018 6:57:30 AM     (No. 11564535)

#1, half those junkies got on heroin because they can´t get oxy scripts renewed by that doctor who prescribed them to keep his own NPS numbers high enuf for Obamacare beancounters.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 3/7/2018 6:59:49 AM     (No. 11564537)

I am among those who cannot take opioids because of their side effects. Faced with a fractured pelvis a few years ago, I tried my regular Aleve and it dealt with the pain very successfully. The doctor gave me the option of taking it a little more often than the usual 12 hour intervals specified on the label. As needed. As soon as I didn’t need so much, I tapered it off.

Pain and painkilling are very individual matters, IMO. I can’t see how one opinion on can fit all.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: GO3, 3/7/2018 7:05:36 AM     (No. 11564542)

I too needed something stronger than tylenol after major surgery. However, I think there is a difference between pain relieving and a drug which makes you not care about the pain. Maybe that´s what they are talking about.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: crunchycon, 3/7/2018 7:07:32 AM     (No. 11564544)

Came here to agree with #4. Like others here I have had surgery. I took my pain meds exactly as prescribed and transitioned off at the end of my prescription. I did, of course, experience some pain, particularly during the last hour before the next dose, but II managed it like a tough gal.. Everyone’s story is difficult fly, but my method kept me outof trouble and may work for otherwise.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: citizen, 3/7/2018 7:41:08 AM     (No. 11564581)

Doctors aren´t John Kerry and cannot feel your pain..the pain scale of 1-10 is a useless way to determine an individual´s pain Also this study was done by the VA? Yikes.


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Reply 10 - Posted by: ladydawgfan, 3/7/2018 7:53:10 AM     (No. 11564601)

I am not supposed to take narcotics due to side effects and the fact that they cause my migraines to go out of control. However, I also have a knee that is severely damaged from a fall and because I am a fluffy woman, I cannot find an orthopedist to correct it surgically. Instead, they keep hitting it with cortisone shots and the latest which was Supartz, none of which did any good (although the Supartz did give me some LOVELY migraines!).

The prescription that I am on for pain is a mild narcotic called transfer, which has been in the news lately for other things as well. It controls the pain in my knee and allows me to function. However, it also aggravates my migraines, makes me tired and occasionally gives me double vision. The sooner I am rid of it, the better.

Now if I could just find someone to really listen to me about my knee....

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ladydawgfan, 3/7/2018 7:54:55 AM     (No. 11564604)

*tramadol

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rather Read, 3/7/2018 7:59:31 AM     (No. 11564615)

I´ve been given opioids after two operations and a wisdom tooth extraction. They never really relieved pain, but I didn´t care that I hurt. I ditched them after two days and went on ibuprophen and that actually relieved the pain.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: greggojo, 3/7/2018 8:11:31 AM     (No. 11564636)

For those concerned about the LATimes cookies:

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/overdosed/2018/03/06/For-all-their-risks-opioids-had-no-pain-relieving-advantage-in-a-yearlong-clinical-trial/stories/201803060191

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 3/7/2018 8:30:24 AM     (No. 11564668)

My surgery and pain meds experience proves there can be no substitute for the proper (I said Proper!) dosage of opioids. Wow! You can go from absolute agony to instant nirvana with the right dosage. But, an emergency operation is over in hours, a few days of pain relief and you are on your way home with a hand full of pills to get you through. Then stop it. That process is a "Repeat as often as needed". But, then long term use on a maintenance prescription of opioids (Oxy and hydro)for control of background pain is off the charts insane. If your pain is that bad, you needs much more than the max legal dose (usually 20 mg) of that stuff. Because in almost no time, a month or two, the "maintenance" dose is useless, and your pain is back but you take the damn pills because now stopping them is not an option! And the bad part is, ask for help getting off them from your insurance and they will tell you real quick- "Not part of the plan, baby!" I had to go cold turkey- What a nightmare! Later Wife did, too. And she had a much rougher time of it. No help, but lots of interference and threats from the Dr. over them- Yes. Threats! (nuther story)

Opioids? No thanks. I now know how to use them. But, had to learn the hard way.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: joew9, 3/7/2018 8:58:24 AM     (No. 11564700)

For me, after surgery and another time during an abscessed tooth I got no pain relief from the prescribed opioids. My family got some relief in that I was too drugged up to complain and moan. So from their perception they believed I got relief.
The side effects were so bad that after two days I quit. It took longer to recover from the opioid side effect than from the surgery. And the abscessed tooth had no pain the very instant they drilled into it and relieved the pressure.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 3/7/2018 9:02:20 AM     (No. 11564706)

Well, gee weez, another lie from the fake news. The study was specific and it included hip and knee pain from osteoarthritis, not as, this liar ´journalist´ states in the first sentence (designed to mislead from the start0, ´aches in the joints´. Oseteoarthritis is very differnt from aches i the joints. Why is this misleading? Because osteoarthritis is commonly treated (first line therapy) with non opoid drugs. So there is a selection bias in the design of the study that favors non opioid drugs. The other major red flag is this was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, a well known liberal poltical advocacy group. It publishes significant political studies disguised as ´science´. Back pain is a hard problem to treat and there is little that has ever been shown consistantly effective so this isn´t a valueless study. But the conclusons are skewed and further stuies are needed.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Madinmaryland, 3/7/2018 9:05:44 AM     (No. 11564711)

I too had a similar response to opioids. Still had pain, but didn´t care. Give me 800mgm ibuprofen any day for pain relief

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 3/7/2018 9:56:06 AM     (No. 11564763)

God blessed me with getting really itchy if I take hydrocodone, so I hope I never have any severe pain that can´t be handled by other means.

Since both parents died of overmedication (one accidentally at home, the other negligently by hospital employee), I shun medications anyway, but I believe in the power of appropriately prescribed ones.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ribald1, 3/7/2018 10:31:26 AM     (No. 11564814)

A big part of the problem is that people take no personal initiative in learning how to deal with pain anymore.
Pain, emotional and physical, is part and parcel to human life and experience.
There is no need to concern oneself, though as there will come a day when you will feel no more pain. I do not long for that day.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: mildred, 3/7/2018 10:34:50 AM     (No. 11564818)

Why would a doctor prescribe an opioid for a pain level of 3.5-4? At that level the pain is the same as stubbing your toe while wearing heavy boots. When my pain reached about 20 on that scale, I needed everything they had in their power to give relief. Live with stage 4 cancer and then do a study. Tylenol alone does not give any relief to those of us who are really suffering. Doctors also prescribe the opioids because it´s easier for faster results. Then the biggest problem is dealing with the side effects. It´s time that the medical field try alternative pain treatments. Big pharma needs to sell drugs to survive so the patients have to suffer.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: kono, 3/7/2018 10:36:58 AM     (No. 11564820)

The bias is obvious early in the piece, when the words "hard data" are underlined in a tabloid-esque manner not consistent with erudite, professional reporting. Note how many times numbers are included when they support the anti-opioid position, but generalized hand-waving verbiage is employed to tiptoe around contradictory elements.

In addition to the doozie pointed out by #1, it includes qualifiers out the wazoo - "over the long term" being a handy way to dismiss what could be significant short-term differences.

It admits that anxiety was improved more for study participants taking the opioids; but seems uninterested in following that point up.

I´d file this under "The Anatomy of a Hit Piece"...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: earlybird, 3/7/2018 11:12:05 AM     (No. 11564847)

Re #21, that underlined bit is a link to this - not emphasis:

March 6, 2018

Effect of Opioid vs Nonopioid Medications on Pain-Related Function in Patients With Chronic Back Pain or Hip or Knee Osteoarthritis Pain
The SPACE Randomized Clinical Trial

Erin E. Krebs, MD, MPH1,2; Amy Gravely, MA1; Sean Nugent, BA1; et al Agnes C. Jensen, MPH1; Beth DeRonne, PharmD1; Elizabeth S. Goldsmith, MD, MS1,3; Kurt Kroenke, MD4,5,6; Matthew J. Bair4,5,6; Siamak Noorbaloochi, PhD1,2
Author Affiliations
JAMA. 2018;319(9):872-882. doi:10.1001/jama.2018.0899

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2673971?redirect=true

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Reply 23 - Posted by: agrunt, 3/7/2018 12:45:41 PM     (No. 11564918)

Why would a doctor prescribe an opioid for a pain level of 3.5-4?
I have long term pain. I use pain meds to get down to the 4 level. Further all of this numeric level of pain stuff is subjective, My feeling of a level 4 may be the next guy´s 5. No dishonesty here just how you measure the subjective level of pain in your body. I just do not understand how they an use this "number system" to go between differing folks.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 3/7/2018 2:29:28 PM     (No. 11565013)

I have been reading Lucianne´s site since the early days of the Clinton presidency and the blue dress. I know how many very intelligent and diverse people comment here from all professions and walks of life.

I have long considered the commenters on this site to be much more informed about any subject than any media writer out there.

I suspect this article is meant to play into the hands of the Feds and their war on opioids. They just cannot leave Doctors alone. Lawyers should get their own medical licenses and stay out of the medical profession. They have no idea how much harm they are doing to law abiding citizens.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 3/7/2018 3:10:47 PM     (No. 11565026)

I suspect very much as #24 states.

I´ve had more than 6 back surgeries, and even had an electronic stimulator implanted into my spine to offset nerve damage pain to no avail. The only thing that helps me deal with chronic pain are two VERY expensive medications, one of which is categorized as "opioid-like." Most of my surgeries were straightforward and I never even took the post-surgery pain meds. One major back surgery however, was extremely debilitating and the only way to make it through the recovery period (3 months) was with moderate levels of Hydrocodone. Trust me, this article is B.S.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: toodles3956, 3/7/2018 3:21:28 PM     (No. 11565035)

Lets give the author of this piece a double knee replacement, then ask her if Tylenol works for her.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: GardenGal, 3/7/2018 3:29:32 PM     (No. 11565041)

I live with pain every day of my life. I, along with everyone else on coumadin, cannot take NSAIDS (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc). Tylenol is useless as a pain reliever for me since it never helped at all with any sort of pain. So I use Voltaren ointment (on some joints I am able to), lidocaine cream, and Norco 5/325 or even 2.5/175 often. I am not the problem Opiod user and these studies are idiotic. I have RA, not OA, and many other problems that are painful. I do not medicate for 3 or 4. That is my every day normal and what I try to aim for if my pain gets worse. But when I broke a rib, the only thing that helped was the Norco.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Doctorfixit, 3/7/2018 4:53:29 PM     (No. 11565104)

One of the more dishonest pieces of propaganda I´ve seen lately. Why is the corporate propaganda machine pushing this hysteria so hard?

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Reply 29 - Posted by: msjena, 3/7/2018 6:05:59 PM     (No. 11565137)

Hydrocodone(Vicodin,etc.) has the advantage of causing drowsiness, which helps the patient tolerate pain after surgery (by falling asleep). Some surgery causes little pain and some a lot. It all depends. I certainly don´t think opiods are necessary for everyday pain, like headaches. But I remember when I had a shoulder injury, the pain was so great that Vicodin didn´t work. The doctor gave me Tramadol,a different narcotic, which helped. People shouldn´t have to suffer if pain relief is available.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: skedaddle, 3/7/2018 6:41:52 PM     (No. 11565162)

Dear Lord, this war on opiates (war on American public suffering pain) is really making me mad and scared.

I was just diagnosed with a Stage 4 cancer. Will I be left to writhe in pain if treatment fails? It seems like the "doctors" who did this study and most of our elected officials would be just fine with me suffering any level of pain when perfectly good medicines exist to relieve suffering.

I´ve recently been given fentanyl three times for quick pain relief during surgical procedures that didn´t require full anesthesia. It worked and I came out of it quickly - the nurses said that´s why they like to use it. I´ve also had Tylenol with codeine for torn ligaments, a broken bone and root canal in the past.

After all that, I´ve never once been tempted to drive down to the bad part of town to buy heroin. That´s because I´m not a drug addict and my doctors were careful with their instructions and quantity prescribed. Opioids works for me. They made my dad see spiders on the walls and you wouldn´t believe how hard it was to get doctors to give alternate pain meds during recovery from joint replacement surgeries.

There´s a lot of blame to go around for people dying from opiates but our government is punishing the innocent and leaving the guilty to go about their business as usual.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: kono, 3/7/2018 7:06:01 PM     (No. 11565178)

I´m grateful for #22´s info. I was not inclined to click, since the underlined text was not colored like a link on the page I read.

That it wasn´t the only element of apparent bias in the article inclines me to stand by the ´hit piece´ characterization, though.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: peeps, 3/7/2018 8:22:42 PM     (No. 11565217)

Agree with #30. After cancer meds, radiation, and surgery, in my case the Hydrocodone helped me relax and heal better without pain. A body without pain and stress is a body that can focus on healing. This may not work in everyone´s case, but I bless the manufacturers of this drug that helped me heal. Not a drug addict.

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Janique Walker knows the cost of a split second. Her younger brother, 17-year-old Charles Macklin, was killed while trying to steal a Jeep from a Chicago fire lieutenant on the West Side last August. The lieutenant had left the Jeep running, and Macklin jumped behind the wheel. The lieutenant ran in front of the Jeep and shouted, “Get out,” according to a police report. When Macklin began pulling away, the lieutenant drew his gun and fired through the open driver’s side window, hitting the teen in the chest. Macklin’s last words were, “Sorry, bro,” according to the police report. The teen died on the pavement. He did not have a gun on

Elizabeth Warren lives ´every day filled
with terror´ at midterms going
Trump´s way

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Washington Times, by Douglas Ernst    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/15/2018 10:21:33 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Elizabeth Warren says her life has become a round-the-clock nightmare due to the prospect of Democrats botching the midterm elections. A conversation with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow revealed the perpetual “terror” the Massachusetts lawmaker experiences as voters prepare to go to the polls in November. Mrs. Warren admitted her fears Thursday evening when confronted with a scenario in which Democrats fail to capture control of either chamber of Congress. “I really, really want us to do [succeed]. I’m going to work really, really hard to make that happen,” she said. “I run every day filled with terror that it won’t

Obama Presidential Center to cost
Illinois taxpayers nearly $200 million

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Washington Examiner, by Anna Giaritelli    Original Article
Posted By: earlybird- 6/16/2018 9:31:35 AM     Post Reply
The state of Illinois has approved $224 million to pay for street and transportation projects in Chicago´s South Side neighborhood around the Obama Presidential Center site, $199 million of which will fall directly on the shoulders of Illinois taxpayers. Gov. Bruce Rauner signed into law the legislature´s budget on June 4, which included $174 million for road work in and around Jackson Park — where the 235-foot-tall building would be located — and another $50 million to renovate an above-ground rail stop two miles away. “Bringing the Obama Presidential Center to Chicago took leadership and vision, and we are gratified that our

Why Fox News Is No. 1
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Townhall, by Michael Reagan    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/16/2018 2:12:25 AM     Post Reply
You wonder why Fox News is Number One in cable? It´s because CNN, MSNBC, NBC and the rest are so relentlessly negative about Donald Trump they force people to watch Fox to find out the truth about the growing economy or the historically low unemployment rates for blacks. Take this week´s Singapore Summit. No matter what President Trump accomplished in Singapore in his face-to-face meeting with North Korea´s Kim Jong Un, for Joe, Mika and their fellow foreign policy experts in the media, it was not enough. Or it was too much. Or Trump was naive or stupid. Or he gave away too much. Or he didn't ask "Little Rocket Man"

´Separating babies from their mothers
is immoral!´: Christian leader SLAM
Jeff Sessions´ usage of the Bible to justify
policy tearing *

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Daily Mail [UK], by Matthew Wright    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 6/16/2018 12:12:37 PM     Post Reply
Christian leaders across the country have taken issue with Attorney General Jeff Session´s usage of the Bible as justification of his policy that is separating thousand of immigrant families at the border. Sessions cited Romans 13 to attempt to justify how separating families was ordained by God because ´orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful.´ For religious leaders who still weren´t pleased with his usage of scripture, he offered them to ´speak up strongly to urge anyone who would come here to apply lawfully, to wait their turn and not violate the law.´

CNN Celebrates Father´s Day: ´He Gave
Birth. He Breastfed. Now, He Wants
His Son To See Him As A Man.´

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Daily Wire, by Hank Berrien    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/16/2018 8:09:20 AM     Post Reply
Just in time for Father´s Day, CNN brings you the story of a biological female who refers to herself as a transgender man who, after taking testosterone to "transition," conceived a child with a man who was "transitioning" into a transgender woman but stopped taking hormones long enough that they could conceive a son. CNN titled the piece, "He gave birth. He breastfed. Now, he wants his son to see him as a man." (Tweet/Photo) The "he" in question is Sabastion Sparks, 24, "a transgender man who lives with his wife Angel in suburban Atlanta." CNN writes, "Like many new dads, Sabastion Sparks knew parenting would come

White House calls comments by MSNBC´s
Joe Scarborough comparing federal action
taken under Trump´s immigration policies
to Nazi tactics ´appalling´ and ´shameful´

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Daily Mail [UK], by Stephanie Haney    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 6/16/2018 10:19:11 AM     Post Reply
The White House called MSNBC´s Joe Scarborough´s comments comparing the actions of immigration law enforcement officers at US border crossings to those of Nazis ´appalling´ on Friday. Scarborough pointed out while hosting ´Morning Joe´ on Friday that federal agents at US borders have reportedly used tactics similar to those used by Nazi soldiers during World War II to separate Jewish families, in saying children are being taken to ´shower´ and never returning with them. ´This is the type of inflammatory and unacceptable rhetoric that puts a target on the backs of our great law enforcement,´ White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley

All Apple employees now get standing
desks — and Tim Cook has said he
believes ´sitting is the new cancer´

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Business Insider, by Kif Leswing    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 6/16/2018 3:39:20 PM     Post Reply
Most of what happens inside Apple Park, the iPhone company´s stunning new headquarters, is top secret. But Apple CEO Tim Cook recently disclosed one new detail about the work environment: Everyone gets a standing desk. "We have given all of our employees, 100%, standing desks. If you can stand for a while, then sit, and so on and so forth, it´s much better for your lifestyle," Cook said in a recent interview with The Carlyle Group´s David Rubenstein published on Wednesday. He then encouraged the billionaire financier to stand with him — just like a prominent feature on the Apple Watch. Cook has previously cited

With FBI´s boiling hate for voters
exposed, America dodged a bullet
by electing Trump

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American Thinker, by Monica Showalter    Original Article
Posted By: PageTurner- 6/15/2018 10:03:27 PM     Post Reply
One of the biggest takeaways from the Department of Justice´s 500-page inspector general report is how deep the contempt for voters is among the Federal Bureau of Investigation´s leadership elite. The text messages are incredible. According to the gleanings of J. Christian Adams over at Pajamas Media: One FBI agent on the Hillary investigation wrote in an FBI text: Trump´s supporters are all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS. "POS" is the agent´s acronym for "Pieces Of S---." There´s also this from Adams: In another FBI communication, Strzok says he visited a rural Virginia Walmart – and the customers had a

Indiana VA hospital temporarily
removes military flags
to fly LGBT pride flag

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ABC News, by Matt McKinney    Original Article
Posted By: happywarrior- 6/16/2018 10:08:50 PM     Post Reply
FORT WAYNE, Ind. -- An Indiana hospital for the Department of Veterans Affairs temporarily removed its military flags to put up an LGBT pride flag Tuesday. Some veterans in Fort Wayne, Indiana arrived at the VA hospital Tuesday morning and noticed all the military flags had been removed. On one of the flagpoles was a rainbow flag, in honor of LGBT pride month, WPTA in Fort Wayne reported. Some people in the area questioned the VA´s decision. "It´s certainly worth recognizing the veterans who are from that community who have served," Jarrod Schwartz, a veteran, said. "It´s a little odd,

Harvard med school removes portraits
of prominent white, male doctors

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American Thinker, by Rick Moran    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/17/2018 11:09:42 AM     Post Reply
The president of Harvard´s teaching hospital got to thinking one day and decided there were too many portraits of white male doctors hung in a popular amphitheater. She bemoaned the horrible situation that people walking into the amphitheater didn´t feel like they "belonged." The problem cried out for a solution. So she moved several portraits of prominent white doctors in order to be more diverse and inclusive. Problem solved? Campus Reform: The hospital’s president, Dr. Betsy Nabel, told the Globe that moving the portraits is the right decision: “I have watched the faces of individuals as they have come into Bornstein.

Phil Mickelson snaps at US Open as
he deliberately putts his ball again
Before it had stopped moving

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Daily Mail (UK), by Derek Lawrenson    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/16/2018 9:34:52 PM     Post Reply
Phil Mickelson´s 48th birthday took a stunning turn at the US Open on Saturday when he stopped a putt from rolling off the 13th green. Clearly at the end of his tether after a shocking run of bogeys in his third round, the much-decorated American embarrassed himself when another putt rolled past the hole. Instead of waiting to see where it finished, he stopped the ball with his putter and knocked it back whence it came. (Photos/Video) It meant an automatic two-shot penalty and he ended up with a 10 for the hole. ´That´s absolutely amazing, that´s Phil basically giving


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