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Condoleezza Rice calls for ‘a conversation
about what the right to bear arms means
in the modern world’

The Hill [Washington, DC], by Max Greenwood

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 2/23/2018 8:03:30 PM

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Friday for a "conversation about what the right to bear arms means in the modern world," and questioned why Americans should have access to "military weapons." "I think it is time for us to have a conversation about what the right to bear arms means in the modern world," Rice told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. "I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons." "We wouldn’t, we wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank," she continued. "So I do think we need to have that conversation." Rice´s comments

Well that pretty much shows where she stands doesn´t it. These people are so tiresome. If I hear one more person suggest that she run for president I will scream. She knows full well that the Democrats don´t want to have a conversation, or their favorite ´have a dialogue´ that means the other side should just shut up.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 2/23/2018 8:07:07 PM     (No. 11553378)

It means the same as in the pre-modern world. The Constitution is not fluid.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: patchy groundfog, 2/23/2018 8:09:23 PM     (No. 11553379)

I believe it means to bear the most modern arms we can afford. 4th generation Glocks and so forth.

Thanks for your usual unhelpful RINO opinion Condi. Now go play a round at Augusta. There’s a good lass.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Tianne, 2/23/2018 8:11:13 PM     (No. 11553383)

It´s really difficult to believe that she doesn´t understand - as poster #1 states, it means what it has always meant and imho, it means even more in our "modern world".

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Reply 4 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 2/23/2018 8:12:04 PM     (No. 11553384)

Rice is a stupid twit, a RINO wannabe, and an enabler of totalitarian socialists. Please go away Bushes and all their hangers-on.
To leftwingers like Rice, a "conversation" means they are shoving something down our throats.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: jales, 2/23/2018 8:24:02 PM     (No. 11553392)

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Reply 6 - Posted by: ginadee, 2/23/2018 8:26:59 PM     (No. 11553394)

It means what it has always meant, Condi.
The constitution is not to be interpreted to justify the wishes of one group or their agenda.
It is the same in the modern world as it was in the time in which it was written.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/23/2018 8:33:16 PM     (No. 11553399)

Same as it did back then. End of "conversation" and no, we can´t have a "dialogue." Now get back to the faculty lounge and stay there.

BTW, if you´re compiling a list of culpable North Korean appeasers, don´t forget Condi.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/23/2018 8:35:08 PM     (No. 11553401)

Gee Condi, what´s been made better in our "modern" world?? Are there any less dictators and tyrants in the world these days, or are all the world leaders worthy of complete trust and obeisance?

Funny thing about the "old" world, there was a time that it was "modern" too. Joe Stalin and Mao Tse Tung sure enjoyed having all the guns very much, as does that little Porker in North Korea.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mfm, 2/23/2018 8:48:20 PM     (No. 11553419)

Tell you what CANDY, you can have FOUR Broward Sheriffs with be your security blanket in the modern world, I´ll protect myself in your modern world and my odds are better then yours, you can bet on that lady..

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Reply 10 - Posted by: chicodon, 2/23/2018 9:03:33 PM     (No. 11553440)

The 2nd Amendment is for the people and not for the political class. They all hate the concept. Even Condoleezza Rice.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: catfur27, 2/23/2018 9:03:52 PM     (No. 11553441)

Hey Condi...maybe we should talk about repealing the 13th Amendment too...???

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Proud American, 2/23/2018 9:31:18 PM     (No. 11553467)

Condi, Condi, Condi, another One Worlder. For shame.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: agrunt, 2/23/2018 9:43:04 PM     (No. 11553481)

we wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank

I sure love to have one. After WWII they were put on sale and used to knock down buildings . They weren´t efficient for that and so went for as scrap. I don´t need the 75 mil gun or even the .50 jor.30 c.al MG´s but just riding around in one would be cool.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: curious1, 2/23/2018 10:00:36 PM     (No. 11553501)

It means to be armed with the same weapons any soldier/marine would bear. That was the whole point of enshrining that natural right into a ´Hands Off´ sign to government. Not that our ancestors in 1934 stepped up and stopped them as they should have. The propaganda was thick back then too - and they didn´t have alternative means of learning what was actually going on. Just the commie version.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 2/23/2018 10:10:22 PM     (No. 11553506)

I never trusted her and i never trusted colin powell. Rice was useless as secretary of state and powell was worse.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ussjimmycarter, 2/23/2018 10:15:00 PM     (No. 11553517)

Yea, K Condition, we will just turn everything in ok? Are you protected by Military Weapons? Me thinks you are! Another George W Bush failure!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ru4us, 2/23/2018 10:45:24 PM     (No. 11553552)

I´m wondering how DoLeezza figured the Founders had in mind that citizens would be wanting to bear cannons? They were a bit unwieldy, even with a shoulder mount.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Skywise, 2/23/2018 11:06:15 PM     (No. 11553561)

You’d think an educated person like Condi would know that within the last century it was LEGAL to buy tanks from the army.

You know civilians can still buy Hummers too along with the military armor for them.

We, as a people, have (mostly) agreed that full automatic weapons should be restricted.

So before you want to have your conversation on the 2nd amendment I think it’s high time that we have that conversation on why it’s legal for the government to lie to us.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 2/23/2018 11:20:51 PM     (No. 11553570)

My take from the article is that she holds the AR-15 to be a "military weapon." You know, one of those awful "semi-automatic weapons" that the news media loves to speak of with such disdain. If we could just get those "semi-automatic weapons" out of everyone´s hands there would be no more shooting deaths.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 2/23/2018 11:35:36 PM     (No. 11553577)

Condoloser Rice - - making the world safe for rule by the Bushes.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: NYbob, 2/24/2018 12:21:28 AM     (No. 11553590)

Wait a minute. This is the same woman who said on more than one occasion that her father stood guard over the household with a shotgun when racist mobs were terrorizing black people.

Oh I get it. When the chips are down you and yours are not only grateful someone can defend YOU with a gun, you make sure YOU have one, but not for the rest of us. Guess what lots of normally peaceful citizens have them and they will keep them no matter what you try and do.

In fact a Marine once told me if it all goes away all he needs to survive is a sock and a can of soup. The first fool that wanders too close, who is armed, will be disarmed and the Marine will have his gun. I´d rather be armed and waiting for someone with a loaded sock, but if all else fails it might work.

A lot of smart idiots think they can be successful prohibiting guns when they failed at much less essential booze and drugs.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dvc, 2/24/2018 12:31:32 AM     (No. 11553594)

The reason civilians need access to military style arms so that we can retain the capability to defeat the military if it becomes necessary.

There - now refute that!

That is the REAL reason for the 2nd Amendment, and it is clear as a bell in the Federalist papers.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: falconer, 2/24/2018 12:35:19 AM     (No. 11553598)

I know these libs......it´s the AR-15 they want today. Next week it will be the .40 caliber pistol. Never ever never trust a liberal. Period. And join the NRA, if you haven´t already.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Persecutor2, 2/24/2018 12:36:53 AM     (No. 11553600)

is kind of depressing. I had the same take as #19, except I´m pretty sure that, as a former Sec´y of State, Rice knows that civilian semi-autos are not "military weapons", she´s just knowingly spreading that falsehood like the worst of the gun-grabbers. Maybe I´m wrong about that--but I don´t think so.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Npcoach, 2/24/2018 1:35:07 AM     (No. 11553624)

Remember when liberals and left wing goons wanted to ban Saturday Night Special hand guns because "militia" referred to an army. If that is true, then we should have military weapons.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Pchristopher, 2/24/2018 1:40:38 AM     (No. 11553627)

Calling for a ´conversation´, is nothing but a Progressive trap to lure conservatives into the open where they can be brutally assaulted by the Media. She can stuff her conversation.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: strike3, 2/24/2018 5:09:37 AM     (No. 11553648)

They claim that we have a few unnecessary deaths now, just imagine the carnage, completely corrupt government, enslavement of the people and imposition of totalitarian measures to rule us that would occur if we all gave up our weapons and the right to purchase and carry them.

Or, if you don´t want to imagine it, just read your history books.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: privateer, 2/24/2018 5:22:57 AM     (No. 11553655)

I always suspected she was a NWO Bushleague stooge. Sounds like someone is pitching her to run as "Fembama".

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Reply 29 - Posted by: rolfnader, 2/24/2018 6:27:30 AM     (No. 11553678)

As IF I´ll waste any time trying to figure out what Condiment. I liked her better when she played the piano and ice skated.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Wetenschapper, 2/24/2018 7:22:30 AM     (No. 11553710)

Not sure of the source, but it bears repeating here:
1. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
2. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
3. Germany established gun control in 1938, and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
4. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
5. Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
6. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
7. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Total killed by gun control in the 20th century: 56 million.

“With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.”

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Reply 31 - Posted by: arkfamily, 2/24/2018 7:39:50 AM     (No. 11553736)

Then the government becomes armed and private citizens becomes unequally armed. What if the government becomes rogue?

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Reply 32 - Posted by: 4poster, 2/24/2018 8:23:54 AM     (No. 11553800)

Our Patriots had better rifles than the British. The Kentucky long rifleman could pick off British soldiers while staying out of range of British rifles.

Our founders expected us to be armed with military grade fire arms.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 2/24/2018 8:27:58 AM     (No. 11553805)

Here, let me ´splain it Condi. The reason we have the right to keep and bear arms is because the government has the right to keep and bear arms and the whole reason for a government of the people and by and for the people is so we can keep that government a little bit afraid of US! We´re "The People" that whole thing called The Constitution and the Bill of Rights was written by and for- Remember Us? We´re the People, Condi! Or have you become so high on your horse you can´t see Us any more?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: franq, 2/24/2018 9:33:49 AM     (No. 11553889)

Rust never sleeps. One more plea for a "conversation". Calls to ban "high capacity" (anything over 6 rounds) magazines, bump stocks, AR-15´s, gun show "loopholes"... The body count keeps rising in Chicago and Detroit in spite of being "gun free". That´s my conversation.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 2/24/2018 5:02:53 PM     (No. 11554280)

Condi Rice has NEVER been mistaken for a conservative, at least by anyone with common sense. She and Colin Powell have always been fluid in their beliefs, politicians with no core.

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Judicial Watch today released newly obtained internal IRS documents, including material revealing that Sen. John McCain’s former staff director and chief counsel on the Senate Homeland Security Permanent Subcommittee, Henry Kerner, urged top IRS officials, including then-director of exempt organizations Lois Lerner, to “audit so many that it becomes financially ruinous.” Kerner was appointed by President Trump as Special Counsel for the United States Office of Special Counsel. The explosive exchange was contained in notes taken by IRS employees at an April 30, 2013, meeting between Kerner, Lerner, and other high-ranking IRS officials. Just ten days following the meeting, former

Time magazine cover features Trump
staring down a crying migrant child

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Washington Examiner, by Katelyn Caralle    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/21/2018 1:12:03 PM     Post Reply
The latest cover of Time magazine criticizes President Trump´s tough border policy, by showing him looking down at a crying, two-year-old Honduran girl whose mother was detained after crossing the border.The photoshopped image is the latest ding against Trump and his zero tolerance policy, which led to the increased family separation of illegal immigrants. The cover is captioned, "Welcome to America." (Tweet/Video) On Wednesday, Trump signed an executive order aimed at putting an end to the practice of separating families, after calling on Congress, specifically Democrats, several times to change the laws.

Restaurant Manager Where Secretary Nielsen
Was Mobbed ‘Happy About What Happened’

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Daily Caller, by Julia Cohen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/20/2018 11:00:04 PM     Post Reply
The Mexican restaurant where Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was swarmed by protesters Tuesday in Washington, D.C., took no action to quell the protesters or ensure Nielsen’s safety, a manager told The Daily Caller News Foundation on Wednesday.“We are not upset the protesters came here and we are not upset even if it was any of our staffers [who tipped off] the protesters,” the MXDC Cocina Mexicana manager, who refused to give his name, told TheDCNF. “We are happy about what happened.”Police responded to the incident, USA Today reported. The manager also said that, to his knowledge, no

Sony Pictures Condemns Peter Fonda’s ‘Abhorrent’
Tweets But Will Release His New Film Anyway

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Breitbart Big Hollywood, by Warner Todd Huston    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/21/2018 1:04:50 PM     Post Reply
Sony Pictures Classics released a statement shredding actor Peter Fonda for his tweets, one of which called for 12-year-old Barron Trump to be raped — but the company said it would still release Boundaries, a new film co-starring Fonda.“Peter Fonda’s comments are abhorrent, reckless and dangerous, and we condemn them completely,” the film company said in an emailed statement late on Wednesday. However, the company went on to insist that pulling the upcoming Shana Feste-directed Boundaries, or trying to edit Fonda out of the film, would be “unfair” to the those involved. “It is important to note that Mr. Fonda

Melania Trump wears $39 jacket with
´I Really Don´t Care, Do U?´ scrawled
across the back as she boards a plane
to visit immigrant children being held*

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Daily Mail (UK), by Emily Goodin & Charlie Lankston    Original Article
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Melania Trump made quite the sartorial statement on Thursday when she donned a jacket with the words, ´I REALLY DON´T CARE, DO U?´ written across the back while boarding a plane to visit immigrant children being held at the border in Texas. The 48-year-old first lady was pictured arriving at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland wearing the $39 khaki design from Zara, before boarding her plane to fly to Texas. She removed the offending jacket, which bore the controversial phrase in white graffiti-style writing across the entire back section, before disembarking the plane upon her arrival. (Photos) By the

Vikings Hold First Sports
LGBTQ Summit

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KSTP-TV [Minneapolis St Paul], by Jonathan Rozelle    Original Article
Posted By: voxpopuli- 6/21/2018 5:37:39 PM     Post Reply
The Minnesota Vikings made history on Thursday. Vikings players, coaches and members of the LGBTQ community came together for a first of its kind inclusion summit held by an NFL team. The LGBTQ summit and fundraising event was held at the TCO Performance Center Auditorium in Eagan. It centered around bridging the gap between the LGBTQ community and sports. (snip) Kluwe´s hope is that the NFL and other sports leagues take notice, and it sparks conversations leading to more acceptance of the LGBTQ community in the athletic world.

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