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The Left Is Reaping the Whirlwind
of the Culture They Made

PJ Media, by Andrew Klavan

Original Article

Posted By:sagman, 2/17/2018 7:06:32 PM

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." Hosea 7:8 It was after a school shooting near Spokane last September that Spokane Sheriff Ozzie Knezovich addressed a clutch of reporters: When I was in high school, every one of those rigs in the high school parking lot had a gun in the gun rack. Why? We went hunting on the way home. None of those guns ever walked into a school, none of those guns ever shot anybody... Did the gun change or did you as a society change?

Klavan always has an interesting take on things.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: plex, 2/17/2018 7:21:06 PM     (No. 11547280)

Simple, clear, and accurate!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/17/2018 7:42:03 PM     (No. 11547297)

Spot on. It´s not the guns, it´s the "culture." The culture has been degraded, very likely beyond redemption. And guess who degraded it? That´s right. The same people clamoring for "common-sense gun laws," which already exist. It seems, curiously, that the areas with such laws have the highest murder rates.

FTA: "But surely, a culture in which those in authority approve of and argue for things like gangsta rap..."

Glorified and entertained at the White House by none other than Barack and Michelle Obama.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bobn.t, 2/17/2018 7:56:05 PM     (No. 11547306)

Excellent read.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Flyball Dogs, 2/17/2018 8:22:58 PM     (No. 11547320)

In fourth grade, we started each day with the Pledge of Allegiance and a Bible reading (and in the middle of the year, Psalm 1 was required to be memorized.)
This afternoon I saw a Sandy Hook mother advocating a new curriculum which teaches social and emotional skills to "love" each other. It sounds worthwhile.
Yet, instead of 10 short rules, we now have a curriculum. There is within each of us a void which can only be filled by God. We can obey His rules, or invent our own curriculum.
The Left touts Evolution. I can make a stronger case for DEVolution. We are living it now.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dvc, 2/17/2018 8:28:09 PM     (No. 11547323)

Yes, so true.

MY culture is still fine, and in my culture, young men are given guns at an early age, taught to use them in a safe and responsible manner, and to protect the weak, not attack them. Guns are used to hunt and to protect, never to harm the innocent, to protect the innocent.

In THEIR culture, they live in a murderous, criminal, hateful sewer of misogyny, violence, drugs and crime. And they create many, many violent thugs.

My culture uses concealed carry to protect us from THEM. And nobody is going to take away our guns, NOBODY.

Read Kurt Schlichter´s "Indian Country", highly recommended.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: LadyHen, 2/17/2018 9:16:56 PM     (No. 11547351)

FTA: "The left wants to defend gangstas and "transgressive" art and antifa thugs — but when the shooting starts, they blame the guns.

The left wants to get rid of feminine modesty and masculine protectiveness and social restrictions on sex — but when the abuse and rape and harassment rise to the surface, they start whining about toxic manhood. Perhaps they should have listened to the Catholic apologist G.K. Chesterton, who wrote about the difference between reforming society and deforming it — a passage that was neatly paraphrased by John F. Kennedy: "Don´t ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up."

My mother and I have both used that passage of scripture many a time in the past few years.

Mom always says "I am just getting too old" but the truth is no, the young have simply followed the pied piper of the progressive leftism farther and farther down the primrose path of degradation and moral ruin. And then these same leftists whine about what these children they have created with their piping do with the left´s evil lies.

Mom also said.. "one day these children will grow up".. and they will still believe the lies. God help us all.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 2/17/2018 9:24:22 PM     (No. 11547356)

I have seen this coming for the last fifty years. I detest the ideology of the left. They hate more than any group that I have ever known. If you don´t agree and tow the mark then you are hated, blacklisted and scorned. You are called a fool for not "feeling". There is no common sense with them. They will blame anything except the real cause. Guns are no good because they can kill. They can only kill when a person uses them. Hillary lost the election because of Russia, James Comey, misogyny, and white men. Hillary was a lousy candidate, end of story. Grow up lefties and face reality, your ways don´t work. Get over it snowflakes.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lavalette, 2/17/2018 11:05:36 PM     (No. 11547404)

These leftoids have been obsessed with creating a culture of death and now they have it in spades.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Newtsche, 2/17/2018 11:14:00 PM     (No. 11547411)

Utterly predictable. Leftists hate too much to limit it to their fanciful oppressors, eating there own has to happen.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Newtsche, 2/17/2018 11:17:36 PM     (No. 11547416)

I truly understand how to use there, they´re and, yes, their but I always get ahead of myself. It´s not limited to forum posts, it´s a personal trait. I´ve always done it, I always will. Sorry........again.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: arkfamily, 2/18/2018 6:48:10 AM     (No. 11547533)

It is quite telling when looking up the definition of liberal. Look at the picture associated with this article. Bill Clinton and Al Franken - the true definition and picture of a liberal. Very sad because people fell for the wrong liberal policies.

There are times to apply liberality and compassion but it is a fine line. People need to discern those qualities and, unfortunately, too many people are now reaping the consequences of those wrong decisions.

One thing I have learned from my relationship with God is that I cannot lean on my own understanding. In everything I do, I must seek Him.

Omarosa was poking fun at Mike Pence because "God talks to him" and she just doesn´t get it. I didn´t for a long time and followed some liberal practices. If you buy into what other people sell and don´t look to God, you will come up empty.

Such a shame that too many people were sold on empty liberal policies.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 2/18/2018 8:53:55 AM     (No. 11547633)

My own Brother chastised me for agreeing with Mark Simone on a point made about the terror attack (and that IS what it was) in Florida on Valentine’s Day. He espouses all of the correct views and preaches (literally) the progressive gospel and gun control..SMH.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: strike3, 2/18/2018 8:54:51 AM     (No. 11547634)

You can detect the deception of the left in their language. They must speak in riddles to attempt to be accepted as members of civilized society. Many people buy into it. They are known as democrats.

Pro choice is the murder of children.

Common sense gun control is total confiscation.

Free speech is vile and degrading insults.

Rap music is the rhyming of four letter words.

Climate change is giving money to backward civilizations so they can catch up without working for it.

Public education is government propaganda.

Transgender is every sexual perversion you can imagine.

Social Justice Warrior is a rioting thug.

And of course the most famous, undocumented immigrant is an illegal alien border crasher.

And so on.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ida lou pino, 2/18/2018 8:56:04 AM     (No. 11547636)

I repeat - - this is utter nonsense.

This massacre had nothing to do with "culture" or "society" or electronic games. It was the result of untreated schizophrenia.

Cruz fit the classic profile of a young man stricken with this terrible disease - - a disease which is contained in the human genetic makeup - - and has nothing to do with society or outside stimuli.

Schizophrenia can be and must be treated. An untreated schizophrenic can cause all kinds of mayhem.

Anyone who thinks this tragedy has anything to do with "culture" or "society" is dead wrong. Learn something about schizophrenia before making ill-informed assertions.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: thomthomp, 2/18/2018 9:00:36 AM     (No. 11547638)

So-called "liberalism", in individuals, is a mental illness that destroyed the ability to think rationally. In the aggregate it is a social disease that destroys the foundation and structure of civilized society. If Western Civilization, the culture of individual liberty, and the American experiment are to survive the ideology the calls itself liberalism must be exorcized from our public life.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Bubby, 2/18/2018 9:44:46 AM     (No. 11547682)

I remember a time in this country when all the stores were closed on Sundays except for pharmacies. The “moral fences” of the Judeo-Christian values of our Founding Fathers have been torn down by leftists under the guise that those fences were racist, homophobic and misogynistic. They have taken prayer out of the schools then wonder why such horrible shootings occur. They have ridiculed our military, the Flag, the National Anthem, labeled the Founding Fathers as racists, promoted the murder of the unborn and same sex marriages, promoted the hatred of whites for having “white privilege”, demonize Republicans and our President, leftist college professors call for the genocide of whites and innocent school children have once again reaped the “whirlwind” of the culture the left has made! God help us to rebuild those fences!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: countryDoc, 2/18/2018 10:06:04 AM     (No. 11547701)

It is not all total nonsense (re #14). I agree, we must recognize mental illness and schizophrenia for what it is, but even among experts who agree there is a genetic predisposition, there is a cultural influence.

The government´s response to the element of inhumane institutionalization of the mentally ill made it a crime to quarantine anyone unless they are a danger to themselves or others, and in my daily experience, there is no effective funding for that kind of quarantine.

ER docs, state mental health workers, private mental health workers, primary care doctors, psychiatrists, law enforcement officers, protective service agencies are all burned out trying to deal with these difficult cases. The laws are in favor of preventing physical or chemical control of these patients. We can prescribe, but the patient has the right not to take meds. Only with a court order in conjunction with a psychiatrist and with years of history can we even force someone to take long acting injections.

Our mental health institutions were filled with inhumane practices in the 1960´s, but we had our politicians come up with solutions.

Until We the People learn how to use common sense in our freedoms, and use our government appropriately, we will continue to have insanity like this.

- we need effective, humane, compassionate forms of treating, and if necessary, institutionalizing people with dangerous mental illnesses (not the prison system).

- we need adequate funding for mental health and medical professional to be more effective with these people.

- we need to have the courage to stand up, create laws, and prosecute people in all forms of media who perpetuate lawlessness, disresptect, dishonor, degrading messages -- or at least make them pay greatly for the "privilege" of what they call "free speech".

- we need to differentiate free speech for the good of people from cultural war and propaganda.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Sam1, 2/18/2018 10:18:49 AM     (No. 11547713)

Very interesting.. I was not aware of this agreement between the NAACP & Broward County, but since this is Broward County I´m not surprised.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bighambone, 2/18/2018 11:01:14 AM     (No. 11547755)

The left won’t pin the blame on the human perpetrators of serious crimes, when those perpetrators are armed with guns, as most of those perpetrators along with their families and friends are usually members of favored identity based population groups that routinely vote heavily for liberal and socialist Democrat politicians. While those people and Democrat favored population groups can vote, guns are inanimate objects that have no vote. In that respect when talking about those serious crimes the Democrats never use words like murder and aggravated assault, but refer to those crimes as being gun violence, thus again blaming the gun and not the human perpetrator.

The firearms and related industries in the USA are mainly conservative oriented industries that contribute to and support the Republican political agenda. In that respect the leftists would love to put the US firearms and related industries out of business, which would result in the loss to American workers of a huge number of well paying jobs throughout the USA.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: starboard, 2/18/2018 11:05:40 AM     (No. 11547761)

The Left is losing the culture war that they started.
FTA:"For fifteen years and more, I have been
complaining that the right is silenced in our culture."
So true and we here at Lucianne can vouch for for it. The Right, hopefully with Trump at the helm, will finally pull their head out of the ether and become culture warriors in this matter.
This BOY that did this horrific act is the byproduct of the Leftist culture the Left has created. He was not born into a loving environment and the cards were stacked against him from the beginning. And there´s probably more there than we want to find out about him.
To hear the hypocrisy on the left pontificate about guns after they´ve produced the filth and terror our young folk have been subjected to, it´s a wonder the culture isn´t worse than it is.

I hope to see President Trump select a
person (no czar) to organize a committee to enforce new procedures to handle the FBI´s blind spot on this issue. We have so many gifted former military and law enforcement people who could do wonders. It´s obvious the FBI has become fat and lazy and are not following up with leads or doing what they are there to do. There are no excuses, they either retrain and do their job or leave. They need to become accountable and report everything they do. The party is over.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 2/18/2018 11:33:28 AM     (No. 11547804)

It all starts with a person having a total disregard for anyone and anything around them. See it all the time. Add in mental illness, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, physical and mental abuse, isolation, greed, selfishness, the internet, a distorted sense of reality, dozens of other factors, and one ends up with people like Nikolas Cruz.

This article mentions violent culture, gangster rap and violent video games as causes. Another article mentions fatherlessness. That is over simplistic. There are many factors.

There are millions of people that are mentally ill, abuse drugs and alcohol, etc, and they do not go out and kill people.

The main thing is to watch behavior that is viewed as ´warning signs´. That was done with Nikolas Cruz. Unfortunately, law enforcement did not or could not do enough to pursue it. This guy was on the radar, but not enough was done about him.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Harlowe, 2/18/2018 12:48:16 PM     (No. 11547887)

FTA: SpokaneSheriffOzzieKnezovich - “Did the gun change or did you as a society change? I´ll give you odds it was you as a society. Because you started glorifying cultures of violence. You glorified the gang culture, you glorified games that actually gave you points for raping and killing people. The gun didn´t change, we changed.”

Hmm, if only this stupendous article could be conveyed to entertainment industry executives/news anchors/journalists… Intentional or not, there is blood on their hands…

“And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,”(Hebrews 9:27)

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Italiano, 2/18/2018 1:50:51 PM     (No. 11547964)

Without in any way detracting from or minimizing #14´s observation, mental illnesses, including schizophrenia, have existed in our society for some time, properly diagnosed or otherwise. The frequency of school, mall, church, theater and other shootings are more recent occurrences. An additional causative factor added to the mix.

I stand by #2.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Butch59, 2/18/2018 2:18:43 PM     (No. 11547986)

I also have seen this country change during my life time. When I was in High School, we said the pledge, we had prayers in school, our teachers were the ones in charge and we did what we were told to do, there were rules about the clothing were wore, and a lot more. I don´t think that is a school in this country does a single thing like that.

And I wonder just how many of those born after my high school days even know what is in the Ten Commandments. Of even that there is one.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: dadofboys, 2/18/2018 2:43:04 PM     (No. 11548002)

To paraphrase CS Lewis, we disparage and devalue life and decency and find ourselves surrounded by murderers.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 2/18/2018 2:58:19 PM     (No. 11548013)

Go spend a month outside the USA, and when you return you´ll be shocked at what boring slobs Americans have become. They accomplished this by trying to emulate the Hollyweird "elite" in that Southern California media bubble. People overseas rarely have tattoos injected on every square inch of their arm, or "piercings" on their faces, except in certain bastions of punk rock Great Britain. No, they don´t do such things because it´s making oneself a social pariah to do so.

The denigration of our culture started in the 1960´s with the ´hippy love´ crowd, and the rot has gone on unabated for decades.

It´s not incredible that our society has been lulled into believing their "society" or Government will take care of everything for them; their safety, security, food supply, job/pension/welfare, etc. So when a mass shooting occurs, do they blame the Single-Person Shooter Video Game Industry? No. Do they blame the ´Gun & Blood Porn´ Movie Industry? No. Not that those enterprises cause mass shootings (there is actually no correlation), but, ´Oh my!,´ are the Communists in our midst ever ready to call for abolition of gun ownership and trashing our 2nd Amendment rights for "the good of the people." They COULD call for a massive tax on violent movies/video games and make a healthy tax revenue stream for their socialist government dreams, but no, they won´t do it because leftists make too much money from such things. However, so long as their celebrity private security detail can carry guns legally, they´ll maintain their "anti-gun" position, even as they make their latest Gun Porn movie.

Liberal, thy name is hypocrite.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/18/2018 3:23:07 PM     (No. 11548027)

Only if Libs alone suffered...it appears their bad policies and stupid ideas are forced on the rest of us...ask the Parents of the children murdered in Florida!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: fairplay, 2/18/2018 3:26:15 PM     (No. 11548030)

I keep saying we live in a liberal society for the last 45 years!

I just finished listening to Nat king Cole music about love and wisdom. Liberal music is about yelling, cursing screeching and screaming like their falling into HELL!!

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Reply 29 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 2/18/2018 3:27:24 PM     (No. 11548032)

90% media hacks
90% tv idiots
90% academia clowns
90% Hollywood morons
90% liberal hypocrites
73% illegitimate bastids

EQUALS...90% of ALL the trouble in America!

We desperately need to CHANGE that!

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mickturn, 2/18/2018 3:31:04 PM     (No. 11548034)

Schizophrenia, OK I´ll agree this individual has a lot of problems. I think the key point of the article is that Libs have degraded our society to the point where it is Not PC to say someone has Schizophrenia or any other mental disorder. On a related mater, check the record, almost all the shooters in situations like this are on Drugs that cause mental problems as side effects. Where are we on that. What we need is a very concise evaluation of ALL factors that can cause one to go berserk like this guy did and stop guessing and playing armchair Psychoanalyst.

PS Libs need not apply on finding a solution, they are already so biased their input is crap!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: rocco49, 2/18/2018 5:14:56 PM     (No. 11548117)

I could live the rest of my life without ONE SINGLE LIBERAL! I mean it...

Never ceases to amaze me how astute my fellow L-Dotters are!
Thank GOD for that!

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SAN FRANCISCO — A woman in Tempe, Ariz., died after being hit by a self-driving car operated by Uber, in what appears to be the first known death of a pedestrian struck by an autonomous vehicle on public roads. The Uber vehicle was in autonomous mode with a human safety driver at the wheel when it struck the woman, who was crossing the street outside of a crosswalk, the Tempe police said in a statement. The episode occurred overnight, although the authorities did not specify whether it was late Sunday or early Monday. The woman was not publicly identified. An

Republican Lindsey Graham says firing
Robert Mueller would be ‘beginning of
the end’ of Donald Trump’s presidency

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Independent [UK], by Clark Mindock    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/18/2018 10:36:05 PM     Post Reply
A prominent Republican says that Donald Trump would doom his presidency if he fires special counsel Robert Mueller. Sen Lindsey Graham, during an appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union”, said that Mr Mueller is following the evidence where it takes him as he investigates Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election. Getting rid of Mr Mueller, the senator said, would be a step too far. “If he tried to do that, that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency, because we´re a rule of law nation,” Mr Graham said. ”I think it´s very important he be allowed to do

The Coming Collusion Bloodbath
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Townhall, by Kevin McCullough    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 3/19/2018 4:38:27 AM     Post Reply
The firing of Andrew McCabe, the discovery of his “private notes,” the ill-tempered response by other Obama loyalists and a yet to be disclosed Inspector General’s report on an investigation that began before Donald Trump had come to office are all pieces of a story that dwarfs the still absent evidence of anything Trump and company did to cooperate with Russians in changing votes in Michigan and Wisconsin. So many Democrats and Republicans have asserted the lack of evidence in the Russian collusion issue its become comical if not annoying to endure as the uninformed continue to argue otherwise. But few have

U.S. Risks Return to Days of
Segregation, Says Lee in
DNC Fundraising Mailer

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PJ Media, by Bridget Johnson    Original Article
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A fundraising email from the Democratic National Committee today featured a member of the Congressional Black Caucus vowing that the country could not go back to the days of segregated schools and lunch counters. The subject line of the email is Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) saying, "I boycotted Trump´s inauguration. Here´s why." (Snip) "After riding racism and fear to the White House, Trump is now pushing policies that harm people of color, immigrants, and working people. For many of us, his presidency represents an attack on our very existence," she said. "But we cannot afford to give up hope. There

When the Shooting Starts, Would You Go In?
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Aspen Times, by Glenn Beaton    Original Article
Posted By: Big bopper- 3/18/2018 10:35:10 AM     Post Reply
Armed sheriff´s deputies appeared on the scene of the recent school massacre in Florida while kids were still being murdered inside. But the deputies failed to storm the building to apprehend the killer, to rescue the assaulted, to stop the bleeding and to comfort the dying. They failed to do their jobs. Instead, they cowered behind their patrol cars waiting for, well, apparently waiting for the shooting to stop. Some 150 bullets and 17 lives later, it finally did and the killer walked away. Only then did the deputies enter the building. About that, President Donald Trump characteristically said what he thought. He

´I don´t like the way it happened´ says
Sen. Marco Rubio of Andrew McCabe firing
- as former FBI deputy director gets axed
a day before he was set to retire

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Daily Mail [UK], by Nikki Schwab    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/18/2018 8:45:39 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, said he was uncomfortable with how the FBI´s former deputy director, Andrew McCabe, was fired on Friday. ´I don´t like the way it happened,´ Rubio said Sunday on Meet the Press. ´He should´ve been allowed to finish through the weekend.´ Attorney General Jeff Sessions decided to fire McCabe a little over 24 hours before his 50th birthday, which was the day he planned to officially retire from government service and would be eligible for his pension. (Snip) Rubio suggested that if the report would have indicated ´wrongdoing or something that was actionable´ than actions could have

Jeff Flake says Trump firing Mueller
‘massive red line that can’t be crossed’

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Washington Times, by Tom Howell Jr.    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/18/2018 9:15:41 PM     Post Reply
Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona said Sunday he hopes the White House’s sparring with key figures at the FBI doesn’t turn into an attempt to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, calling it a “massive red line that can’t be crossed.” Mr. Flake, a Republican and frequent critic of Mr. Trump, said he would expect GOP leaders to push back against attempts to undermine Mr. Mueller, who is probing Russian meddling into the 2016 campaign and its potential ties to the Trump campaign. “He can’t go there,” Mr. Flake told CNN’s State of the Union.(Snip) “We have confidence in Mueller. I

‘It’s Not That Crazy’ — Hillary Clinton Defends
Offensive Comments About American Women

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Breitbart Big Government, by Charlie Spiering    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/19/2018 3:04:44 PM     Post Reply
Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton defended her controversial comment trying to explain why the majority of white women voted for her opponent Donald Trump.“As much as I hate the possibility, and hate saying it, it’s not that crazy when you think about our ongoing struggle to reach gender balance – even within the same household,” she wrote in an over 800-word Facebook statement defending her comments.Clinton drew fire from Republicans after she told an audience in India that white women did not vote for her in 2016 because they faced “ongoing pressure” from their husbands, male bosses, and sons to

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